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    pag tinanggal ang excise tax equivalent lang yan sa isang rollback

    aabot ba ng 10 pesos?

    kahit P10 maliit lang epekto niyan

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    BBM tackles enhanced cooperation in courtesy call with ASEAN, Italy envoys

    President-elect Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. met with ambassadors of Italy and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) member-countries on Monday, June 6, and discussed future cooperation between the Philippines and these nations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    BBM tackles enhanced cooperation in courtesy call with ASEAN, Italy envoys

    President-elect Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. met with ambassadors of Italy and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) member-countries on Monday, June 6, and discussed future cooperation between the Philippines and these nations.


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    There's nothing special about this....diplomats meeting with the winning candidate. Paulit ulit post mo about ambassadors meeting with Marcos junior.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    There's nothing special about this....diplomats meeting with the winning candidate. Paulit ulit post mo about ambassadors meeting with Marcos junior.


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    just to emphasize that we're not a shame to the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    just to emphasize that we're not a shame to the world
    Pfffttt. Kahit pinagtatawanan ng mundo mga Pilipino for bringing back a Marcos, eh diplomats will always be a diplomats...They're gonna be civil and diplomatic about the winner. So no biggie, ikaw lang making a big deal about it.

    Kahit yun bum sa kanto na hinde graduate, magnanakaw, walang accomplishment ang manalo. Mag courtesy call pa rin mga diplomats. [emoji16]


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pag tinanggal ang excise tax equivalent lang yan sa isang rollback

    aabot ba ng 10 pesos?

    kahit P10 maliit lang epekto niyan
    lahat ng malaki ay nang gagaling sa maliit, at yung malaman mo na di ka na pinahihirapan ng gobyerno sa buwis ay sapat na...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    lahat ng malaki ay nang gagaling sa maliit, at yung malaman mo na di ka na pinahihirapan ng gobyerno sa buwis ay sapat na...
    But the govt need this tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    lahat ng malaki ay nang gagaling sa maliit, at yung malaman mo na di ka na pinahihirapan ng gobyerno sa buwis ay sapat na...
    hindi ba reklamo ng lahat malaki utang ng pinas?

    pag tinanggal ung excise tax lalo di makakabayad ng utang

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hindi ba reklamo ng lahat malaki utang ng pinas?

    pag tinanggal ung excise tax lalo di makakabayad ng utang
    sa tingin mo ba ibabayad sa utang yan? ako hinde, sa laki ng utang eh mas lalo pa nag hirap ang tao bayan...

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    When I see a debt, I look it relatively on the capacity to pay. Yes we have Trillion of loans, but the Debt/GDP is manageable, as economic experts said. I was surprised that SG has bigger debt/gdp ratio than us, especially Bhutan. I wasn't surprised to Japan though as I was aware of it many years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    sa tingin mo ba ibabayad sa utang yan?
    ang literal mo

    hindi literally pambayad ng utang ang excise tax

    syempre may ginagastusan yan

    hindi ko alam anong gov't program exactly ang beneficiary ng tax na yan

    kunwari sa 4Ps (Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program) ginagastos yan

    pag tinanggal ung excise tax, either hayaan magutom mga tao o maghahanap ang gobyerno ng ibang source

    bagong buwis o mangungutang

    so we arrive at the same place

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    a large part of the gov't budget goes to debt servicing

    the budget comes from tax, the rest comes from borrowing

    if the gov't cuts taxes somewhere, they need to use borrowing to fill that hole

    so we arrive at the same place
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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang literal mo

    hindi literally pambayad ng utang ang excise tax
    I think gusto nya sabihin eh napupunta lang naman sa corruption yung part ng tax na naku-collect ng gov't. So better na tanggalin muna for now since mataas ang presyo ng langis. Para naman makinabang yung mga motorista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawdee View Post
    I think gusto nya sabihin eh napupunta lang naman sa corruption yung part ng tax na naku-collect ng gov't. So better na tanggalin muna for now since mataas ang presyo ng langis. Para naman makinabang yung mga motorista.
    Parang na-delay lang ng 1 or 2 increase ang pagtanggal ng excise tax. Tataas pa din naman fuel with what's happening to the world. Pero ang effect naman ng pagtanggal ng tax is worse.
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    my opinion,
    let us not create new taxes.
    let us effectivize the collection of current taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Parang na-delay lang ng 1 or 2 increase ang pagtanggal ng excise tax. Tataas pa din naman fuel with what's happening to the world. Pero ang effect naman ng pagtanggal ng tax is worse.
    It just temporary, any deduction in the price of oil is a big help especially for the commuters/puv drivers. Alam naman natin na domino effect pag oil ang tumataas, so kahit na 5 to 10 PHP deduction sa price ng oil eh malaking tulong na rin yun. Again it's just temporary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawdee View Post
    I think gusto nya sabihin eh napupunta lang naman sa corruption yung part ng tax na naku-collect ng gov't. So better na tanggalin muna for now since mataas ang presyo ng langis. Para naman makinabang yung mga motorista.
    ang sinasabi niya di daw mababayaran ang malaking utang ng pinas so tanggalin nalang ung excise tax it makes no difference anyway

    ang sagot ko diyan no matter how big the debt is tuloy tuloy parin ang pagbayad ng utang dahil kasama sa national budget ang debt servicing

    non stop ang pagbayad ng utang nakalaan na yan

    kung tanggalin mo ang excise tax, temporary na ginhawa lang yan sa publiko

    katumbas lang yan ng isang rollback

    pero makaka apekto yan sa bond rating ng pinas

    dahil ang mga rating agency tumitingin sa revenue ng gobyerno

    example: gumanda rating ng pinas dahil sa 12% VAT

    pag tinanggal ang excise tax, makikita ng mga rating agency nabawasan ng kita ang gobyerno = mas mahirapan mag service ng utang = i-downgrade nila ang pinas

    pag downgrade = mas mataas na interest rate ang idedemand ng mga bond investor

    so mas malaki ang debt burden ng pinas dahil sa mas mataas na interest rate

    para lang sa one time roilback ng fuel price
    Last edited by uls; June 8th, 2022 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    my opinion,
    let us not create new taxes.
    let us effectivize the collection of current taxes.
    Let us collect from known convicted tax evaders muna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang sinasabi niya di daw mababayaran ang malaking utang ng pinas so tanggalin nalang ung excise tax it makes no difference anyway

    ang sagot ko diyan no matter how big the debt is tuloy tuloy parin ang pagbayad ng utang dahil kasama sa national budget ang debt servicing

    non stop ang pagbayad ng utang nakalaan na yan

    kung tanggalin mo ang excise tax, temporary na ginhawa lang yan sa publiko

    katumbas lang yan ng isang rollback

    pero makaka apekto yan sa bond rating ng pinas

    dahil ang mga rating agency tumitingin sa revenue ng gobyerno

    example: gumanda rating ng pinas dahil sa 12% VAT

    pag tinanggal ang excise tax, makikita ng mga rating agency nabawasan ng kita ang gobyerno = mas mahirapan mag service ng utang = i-downgrade nila ang pinas

    pag downgrade = mas mataas na interest rate ang idedemand ng mga bond investor

    so mas malaki ang debt burden ng pinas dahil sa mas mataas na interest rate

    para lang sa one time roilback ng fuel price

    I get what you're saying, nakaka-dismaya lang na substantial part ng tax na kinu-collect sa atin eh napupunta sa corruptions. Parang ang nangyayari kasi since hindi ma-stop ang corruption eh taasan na lang natin ang buwis para may pambayad tayo sa mga utang natin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawdee View Post
    I get what you're saying, nakaka-dismaya lang na substantial part ng tax na kinu-collect sa atin eh napupunta sa corruptions. Parang ang nangyayari kasi since hindi ma-stop ang corruption eh taasan na lang natin ang buwis para may pambayad tayo sa mga utang natin.
    according to the incoming DOF Secretary, digitalization in BIR, Customs and other gov't depts could lessen corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    according to the incoming DOF Secretary, digitalization in BIR, Customs and other gov't depts could lessen corruption.
    Hindi mawawala ang on-the-side na kickback ng mga customs, BIR, etc.

    Matagal nang online payments mga govt agencies natin, pero nagagawan pa din ng paraan ng mga govt officials.

    Padalhan ka ng LOA ng BIR, then mag settle kayo on the side.

    Si customs, before nila pirmahan release docs mo, meron muna on the side.
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