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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    China preferring to talk to BBM does not mean BBM has leverage. Those are two different things.

    In fact, it show that BBM is the weakest among the candidates because why would China talk to someone who has leverage over them?
    This one. Naturally a con man would rather deal with a weak and easy "mark".

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    For the nth time, who’s talking to Lacson about withdrawing?

    Unification may be possible if the frontrunner is below 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    If these so called experts knows everything, then they should have resolved the problem on WPS. Therefore, they too are not experts.

    It's just that there are people who also with ideas different from theirs.
    You're presented with a different take and you're quick to discredit their 'expertise' just because their stance is different from yours.

    I won't pretend that I know better when it comes to geopolitics so I'd rather listen to people who have spent their life around the subject and can actually explain their position.

    I won't be quick to conclude Jr has better foreign policy just because of Boy Abunda.

    Boy Abunda's opinion about cancer doesn't get more credible just because a doctor's last patient didn't get healed.



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    This guy just admitted to vote buying using government funds. [emoji1751]screenshot_20220317-225127.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    You're presented with a different take and you're quick to discredit their 'expertise' just because their stance is different from yours.

    I won't pretend that I know better when it comes to geopolitics so I'd rather listen to people who have spent their life around the subject and can actually explain their position.

    I won't be quick to conclude Jr has better foreign policy just because of Boy Abunda.

    Boy Abunda's opinion about cancer doesn't get more credible just because a doctor's last patient didn't get healed.

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    I didn't quite see his logic either, whether or not it is politically related.

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    ?Despite denials, Smartmatic had serious security breach? | Philstar.com

    Mind conditioning na agad? Preparation for an election protest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead000 View Post
    I didn't quite see his logic either, whether or not it is politically related.
    Selective reasoning tawag dyan. IOf pabor ssa iyo, ayus yang expert na yan, reliable. If hindi pabor sa idea mo, questionable ang pagiging expert. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Selective reasoning tawag dyan. IOf pabor ssa iyo, ayus yang expert na yan, reliable. If hindi pabor sa idea mo, questionable ang pagiging expert. hehe

    lahat naman yan meron selective reasoning... doon sa expert kuno, di sana na resolved na nila yun issue sa WPS, because it's not then it just an opinion as other's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead000 View Post
    I didn't quite see his logic either, whether or not it is politically related.
    It's because there was none, it was simply a matter of twisting facts to appear logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    lahat naman yan meron selective reasoning... doon sa expert kuno, di sana na resolved na nila yun issue sa WPS, because it's not then it just an opinion as other's.
    Only the leaders of countries can resolve the WPS issue. Presidente ba mga expert na yan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    lahat naman yan meron selective reasoning... doon sa expert kuno, di sana na resolved na nila yun issue sa WPS, because it's not then it just an opinion as other's.
    The expertise is only good if one is listening. If not...


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    I'm thinking kung ma-convert to votes ba yun mga nag attend ng rallies nila Leni?

    If you'll based sa attendance sa mga sorties you would think na leading si Leni.


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    RE: WPS (not cancer)
    The so called expert say 'you listen to us because we know...' then I need proof if they are really experts. WPS issue is complex that no particular method will resolve it. It's about eliminating previous methods that didn't give good return, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    RE: WPS (not cancer)
    The so called expert say 'you listen to us because we know...' then I need proof if they are really experts. WPS issue is complex that no particular method will resolve it. It's about eliminating previous methods that didn't give good return, I think.
    See, now you think na lang.

    Sagutin mo muna kasi tanong ko. Yung expert ba susundin ng mga military ng mga bansa na sangkot sa WPS?

    Actually China lang naman nanggugulo due to economic and political dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    See, now you think na lang.

    Sagutin mo muna kasi tanong ko. Yung expert ba susundin ng mga military ng mga bansa na sangkot sa WPS?

    Actually China lang naman nanggugulo due to economic and political dreams.
    There are so called experts who leans on Multilateral, and so called experts to Bilateral.

    My thinking says I'm for Bilateral, more peaceful approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    There are so called experts who leans on Multilateral, and so called experts to Bilateral.

    My thinking says I'm for Bilateral, more peaceful approach.
    Basically giving in to what China wants. You don't get any say when you are the smaller one in a party of 2. China has been proven to be an untrustworthy negotiator several times already. And you still want to go that route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Basically giving in to what China wants. You don't get any say when you are the smaller one in a party of 2. China has been proven to be an untrustworthy negotiator several times already. And you still want to go that route?
    Because we didn't get the supposed help that we need from the other superpower. What had China got is already hard for us to take it back, but we should not them get whatever we have now. That is the status quo until we make ourselves strong (years?) in the eyes of our neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    Because we didn't get the supposed help that we need from the other superpower. What had China got is already hard for us to take it back, but we should not them get whatever we have now. That is the status quo until we make ourselves strong (years?) in the eyes of our neighbors.
    Not sure what world you live in. What makes you think they will all of a sudden change their tone and become a benevolent ally if we drop the only things keeping them from taking even more from us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Not sure what world you live in. What makes you think they will all of a sudden change their tone and become a benevolent ally if we drop the only things keeping them from taking even more from us?

    Who Occupies What in the Spratlys?

    You read the article first. And we're yet only discussing about China got all these and that.... blah, blah. To deal with all of them is of unhostile approach.

    VIETNAM
    Southwest Cay (Vietnamese: Song Tu Tay),
    South Reef (Da Nam),
    Petley Reef (Nui Thi or Da Thi),
    Sand Cay (Son Ca),
    Namyit Island (Nam Yet),
    Discovery Great Reef (Da Lon),
    Sin Cowe Island (Sinh Ton),
    Collins Reef (Co Lin),
    Lansdowne Reef (Len Dao),
    Sin Cowe East Island (Sinh Ton Dong),
    Ladd Reef (Da Lat),
    Spratly Island (Truong Sa or Truong Sa Lon),
    West Reef (Da Tay),
    Central Reef (Truong Sa Dong),
    East Reef (Da Dong),
    Pearson Reef (Phan Vinh),
    Allison Reef (Toc Tan),
    Cornwallis South Reef (Nui Le),
    Pigeon or Tennent Reef (Tien Nu),
    Barque Canada Reef (Thuyen Chai),
    Amboyna Cay (An Bang).

    PHILIPPINES
    Northeast Cay (Filipino: Parola),
    Thitu Island (Pag-asa),
    Loaita Cay (Panata),
    Loaita Island (Kota),
    West York Island (Likas),
    Flat Island (Patag),
    Nanshan Island (Lawak),
    Second Thomas Shoal (Ayungin),
    Commodore Reef (Rizal).

    CHINA
    Subi Reef (Chinese: 渚碧礁 Zhubi Jiao),
    Gaven Reef (南薰礁 Nanxun Jiao),
    Hughes Reef (东门礁 Dongmen Jiao),
    Johnson South Reef (赤瓜礁 Chigua Jiao),
    Fiery Cross Reef (永暑礁 Yongshu Jiao),
    Cuarteron Reef (华阳礁 Huayang Jiao),
    Mischief Reef (美济礁 Meiji Jiao).

    MALAYSIA
    Swallow Reef (Malay: Layang-Layang), since 1983,
    Ardasier Reef (Ubi), since 1986,
    Mariveles Reef (Mantanani), since 1986,
    Erica Reef (Siput), since 1999,
    Investigator Shoal (Peninjau), since 1999.

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