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    #2041
    BEWARE OF SUBTLE CHEATING ON MONDAY BY THE LIBERAL PARTY AND THE COMELEC. THEY MADE VOTING SO COMPLICATED FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE.

    CAN AUTOMATED ELECTION 2016 BE TRUSTED TO PROPERLY COUNT OUR VOTES?


    You voted for Duterte by shading his oval on your ballot, but the receipt that the Vote Counting Machine (VCM) printed says that you voted for Roxas. This post will explain that if you encounter this error on election day, then this error is not your fault. It will show that the error is due to mismatch between the ballot and the VCM configuration file delivered to your precinct, and that Comelec is to blame for this error.

    A close examination of the ballot shows that there are 24 column marks numbered column-1 to column-24. Note that column-1, column-7, column-13, and column-19 are the columns where the ovals of the candidates can be found. Also there are 55 row marks, numbered row-1 to row-55. Note that row-11 and row-12 are the rows of the presidential candidates.

    When you shade the oval on row-11 column 7 to vote for Duterte, the VCM does not know that you are voting for Duterte since it can not read Duterte's name on the ballot, since it is not an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) VCM. It can not read the characters in the name of your candidates. Instead it can recognize the mark that you put in the oval on row-11 column-7, since it is an Optical Mark Recognition (OMR) VCM. It only knows that you selected the candidate on row-11 column-7. How then does it assign your vote mark to Duterte? It consults a table in the SD card of the VCM that says that Binay is in row-11 column-1, Defensor Santiago is in row-12 column-1, Duterte is in row-11 column-7, Poe is in row-12 column-7, and Roxas is in row-11 column-13. The table is an XML file called "election.xml", and it is written onto the SD card of the VCM that is delivered to your precinct before election day. The election.xml file contains a portion that looks like this.















    This is the correct version of the "election.xml" file for your precinct. So that if you shaded the oval at row="11" column="7" your vote should go to Duterte, and your receipt should say that you voted for Duterte.

    However, the Comelec has to prepare 92,500+ VCM computers and 92,500+ SD cards (times two, since each VCM has two SD cards) containing the correct version of the election.xml file for your precinct. Because of the vast number of SD cards that Comelec has to prepare it is very likely that it will make mistakes in the preparation of these SD cards. For example, the following erroneous election.xml file might be delivered to your precinct, together with the correctly printed ballots.















    Now with this erroneous election.xml file, together with the correctly printed ballots, all votes on the ballot that are for Binay, Duterte, and Roxas, will go to Roxas, both in the VCM internal count and in the receipt for the voter.

    Fortunately, because the VCM will give the voter a receipt indicating the names he has selected for each elective position, the voter, on reading his receipt, can see any error in the assignment of vote mark to candidate. Unfortunately, even if he knows that an error has occurred, the error has already been included in the count for the precinct, and the most that he can do is file a complaint with the Board of Election Inspectors (BEI), who is required to enter the complaint in the Minutes of the Precinct. Since voters do not file election protests (although candidates do), there is no way of acting on voters' complaints, and the injustice to the voter is never resolved.

    It is because of the disenfranchising effect of this kind of error that I have written three times to Comelec, through the Local Source Code Review Committee, requesting Comelec to post all 2000+ distinct ballot faces and all 92,500+ election.xml files at the Comelec website, for the political parties and the public to review and to propose corrections of any errors discovered. After corrections have been made, the 92,500+ corrected election.xml files should be posted, together with their hash values, at the Comelec website. At the start of election day, as part of VCM initialization procedure, the hash value of the VCM program, and the hash value of the election.xml file should both be compared with the published known values. Without these hash value checking by the public, the automated election can not be trusted to properly count our votes. To date, Comelec has not granted our request to post these 92,500+ election.xml files. - Pablo Manalastas

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    #2042
    Naku madadaya kami, revolution na yan.

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    #2043
    Pakamatay na mga dutertards since nadaya. Kawawa naman eh

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    #2044
    Tama talaga assessment ko na karamihan ng purefoods fans maka duterte. Alvin patrimonio nandun pala sa stage.

    Ang roxas sure na sure ako maka talk and text mga yan.

    Ginebra maka binay

    Poe - farm team hahahahahaha

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    #2045
    Comelec already had a source code review and it was open for the political parties and the public.

    What the source code review is and why it is important to the 216 elections - CNN Philippines


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    #2046
    Intindihin nalang natin mga dutertards
    Matinding troma inabot nila sa kanilang buhay malamang iba dyan biktima
    Ng drugs, holdaper etc. ang nakikita nalang nila sulosyun ay si duterte
    Haha kawawa naman [emoji23]


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    #2047
    Huh? It's not that complicated. All that is needed is to copy the same file(s) to every SD card. One person can do that if only the correct files are given.

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    #2048
    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    Intindihin nalang natin mga dutertards
    Matinding troma inabot nila sa kanilang buhay malamang iba dyan biktima
    Ng drugs, holdaper etc. ang nakikita nalang nila sulosyun ay si duterte
    Haha kawawa naman [emoji23]


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    #2049
    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    Intindihin nalang natin mga dutertards
    Matinding troma inabot nila sa kanilang buhay malamang iba dyan biktima
    Ng drugs, holdaper etc. ang nakikita nalang nila sulosyun ay si duterte
    Haha kawawa naman [emoji23]


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    it might be "funny" to some, but in the end, these guys, if they are the majority, may have their way and dictate their candidate on everyone including the anti DUs, as well.
    yan ang hindi nakakatawa.
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    #2050
    Mga botante ni Digong at Nognog
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    #2051
    Haha desperado na talaga mga dutertards
    Si duterte na lang talaga makakapagligtas sa kanila
    Sya ang sugo ng ..... ![emoji23]


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    #2052
    Sa mock polls ni james deakin

    RoRo lumabas, 17600 respondents

    Yun mga comment ng maka duterte, sakit sa bangs

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    #2053
    ‘Dutertismo’ or clearheaded patriotism? | Inquirer Opinion

    ‘Dutertismo’ or clearheaded patriotism?

    By: Randy David
    Philippine Daily Inquirer 12:06 AM May 8th, 2016

    At the last presidential debate, the candidates were asked how they would deal with China’s incursions in the West Philippine Sea. Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte had a ready answer. He will tell the Coast Guard to take him to the middle of the sea, and, from there, he will ride a jet ski to the nearest disputed atoll. There, in full view of the Chinese naval forces, he will plant the Philippine flag—alone.

    Wherever the mayor talks about it, his audiences greet this verbal bravura with rousing laughter and effusive cheers. It makes no difference to them whether he’s joking or he’s serious about this grave policy issue. No matter what he says, Mayor Digong seems to fulfill their expectations of the kind of leader the country needs for our desperate times.

    He must be tough, decisive, fearless, and, yes, heroic. “I don’t care if they kill me,” the mayor adds. “That will make me a hero, and I have always dreamed of being a hero. But, I will not risk the life of a single Filipino soldier in this fight.”

    I don’t think the man is joking. I do not doubt his readiness to do exactly what he says on impulse. Nothing seems to intimidate him. There, I believe, lies his dark charisma.

    But charisma, in Max Weber’s definition, is not a magical quality possessed by a person. It is, rather, a type of relationship. To make sense of charisma, one has to understand the social context in which a leader attracts throngs of followers.

    The context is typically one characterized by crisis—as in the aftermath of a war or in the face of famine or a calamity. Institutions have broken down. Criminals, bandits, and armed individuals roam the streets. People are gripped by a sense of despair and panic. They feel they have no one to turn to for protection, assistance, or justice.

    It was this situation that the anti-Semitic writer, Dietrich Eckart, saw in his defeated and demoralized country in the wake of World War I. He saw Adolf Hitler at a meeting of the German Workers’ Party, and at once he knew this was the man who could lift Germany from its humiliation. “[A] fellow who can stand the rattle of a machine gun. The rabble has to be scared sh*tless. I can’t use an officer; the people no longer have any respect for them. Best of all would be a worker who’s got his mouth in the right place … He doesn’t need much intelligence; politics is the stupidest business in the world.” (Quoted in Lawrence Rees, “Hitler’s Charisma,” 2012)

    All this sounds frighteningly familiar when one views the phenomenal rise of Digong Duterte in Philippine politics. Except for one thing: The Philippines is not struggling to recover from the desolation of war. There’s threat of hunger in some parts of the country because of the drought, but food is readily available everywhere else. Some areas devastated by Supertyphoon “Yolanda” are still not fully rehabilitated, but much has been done to resettle the displaced communities. There’s poverty, but this is occurring in the midst of unprecedented economic growth. There’s crime, but there is no anarchy in our streets. Some judges and prosecutors are corrupt, but the rule of law remains.

    In short, the country is not in crisis—at least not in the way it was in the aftermath of the 1983 assassination of Ninoy Aquino. During that time, the economy shrank by 10 percent. The peso lost much value. We could not pay the nation’s creditors. International banks refused to extend credit lines to pay for basic imports. We didn’t know if the ailing dictator in Malacañang was still in command of government. Daily demonstrations filled the streets, and rumors of a military coup were rampant. There was loud clamor for a new government that would rebuild the nation’s institutions.

    No doubt our problems have multiplied over the years. That is what happens to any country that is growing in density and diversity. Our national situation is more complex today not only because there are more of us, but also because our daily lives have become increasingly shaped not just by innovations in technology, but by shifts in the global economic system and world politics as well. We have been able to reasonably adapt to the challenges and opportunities of this changing global reality. But, undeniably, many of our countrymen are falling through the cracks of these developments.

    Interestingly, it is not the extremely poor who are reacting to these complex issues with great impatience. The sense of desperation is coming rather from those who have relatively more in life. It is they who righteously proclaim their entitlement to something better—better paying jobs, better public transport, more responsive public service, safer neighborhoods, lower taxes, better airports, better hospitals and better schools.

    This is nothing extraordinary. We find this in every country that is in the throes of modernity—the sense of drowning in an accumulation of problems beyond the capacity of existing institutions and leaders to solve. In a flash, the people’s pent-up resentments against the existing order come to a head and find release in the quest for a god who can solve their problems—the traffic jams, the petty criminals, the undisciplined motorists, the insensitive government employee, the abusive cop, the bribe-taking judge, and the thousand and one aggravations that mark their daily lives.

    We don’t need a dictator to tell us how to live. We need a president who can form a capable team that will sort out the complex problems of governance. Yet, no government will ever succeed unless we, the citizens, can rise above our unexamined fears and emotions—high enough to be able to ask what we can do to help our country or, at least, not add to its problems.

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    #2054
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    But if the next pres is a big ****-up like erap. I hope he/she gets to be removed in office as well. We don't need 6 years of ****-up.

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    I won't be surprised if Duterte wins the election, then after 2 years already being bashed for his decisions. Voters are easily swayed by promises and words. If someone regularly takes 'payment' from the NPA, can they really accept that he's not corrupt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    ‘Dutertismo’ or clearheaded patriotism? | Inquirer Opinion

    ‘Dutertismo’ or clearheaded patriotism?

    By: Randy David
    Philippine Daily Inquirer 12:06 AM May 8th, 2016

    At the last presidential debate, the candidates were asked how they would deal with China’s incursions in the West Philippine Sea. Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte had a ready answer. He will tell the Coast Guard to take him to the middle of the sea, and, from there, he will ride a jet ski to the nearest disputed atoll. There, in full view of the Chinese naval forces, he will plant the Philippine flag—alone.

    Wherever the mayor talks about it, his audiences greet this verbal bravura with rousing laughter and effusive cheers. It makes no difference to them whether he’s joking or he’s serious about this grave policy issue. No matter what he says, Mayor Digong seems to fulfill their expectations of the kind of leader the country needs for our desperate times.

    He must be tough, decisive, fearless, and, yes, heroic. “I don’t care if they kill me,” the mayor adds. “That will make me a hero, and I have always dreamed of being a hero. But, I will not risk the life of a single Filipino soldier in this fight.”

    I don’t think the man is joking. I do not doubt his readiness to do exactly what he says on impulse. Nothing seems to intimidate him. There, I believe, lies his dark charisma.

    But charisma, in Max Weber’s definition, is not a magical quality possessed by a person. It is, rather, a type of relationship. To make sense of charisma, one has to understand the social context in which a leader attracts throngs of followers.

    The context is typically one characterized by crisis—as in the aftermath of a war or in the face of famine or a calamity. Institutions have broken down. Criminals, bandits, and armed individuals roam the streets. People are gripped by a sense of despair and panic. They feel they have no one to turn to for protection, assistance, or justice.

    It was this situation that the anti-Semitic writer, Dietrich Eckart, saw in his defeated and demoralized country in the wake of World War I. He saw Adolf Hitler at a meeting of the German Workers’ Party, and at once he knew this was the man who could lift Germany from its humiliation. “[A] fellow who can stand the rattle of a machine gun. The rabble has to be scared sh*tless. I can’t use an officer; the people no longer have any respect for them. Best of all would be a worker who’s got his mouth in the right place … He doesn’t need much intelligence; politics is the stupidest business in the world.” (Quoted in Lawrence Rees, “Hitler’s Charisma,” 2012)

    All this sounds frighteningly familiar when one views the phenomenal rise of Digong Duterte in Philippine politics. Except for one thing: The Philippines is not struggling to recover from the desolation of war. There’s threat of hunger in some parts of the country because of the drought, but food is readily available everywhere else. Some areas devastated by Supertyphoon “Yolanda” are still not fully rehabilitated, but much has been done to resettle the displaced communities. There’s poverty, but this is occurring in the midst of unprecedented economic growth. There’s crime, but there is no anarchy in our streets. Some judges and prosecutors are corrupt, but the rule of law remains.

    In short, the country is not in crisis—at least not in the way it was in the aftermath of the 1983 assassination of Ninoy Aquino. During that time, the economy shrank by 10 percent. The peso lost much value. We could not pay the nation’s creditors. International banks refused to extend credit lines to pay for basic imports. We didn’t know if the ailing dictator in Malacañang was still in command of government. Daily demonstrations filled the streets, and rumors of a military coup were rampant. There was loud clamor for a new government that would rebuild the nation’s institutions.

    No doubt our problems have multiplied over the years. That is what happens to any country that is growing in density and diversity. Our national situation is more complex today not only because there are more of us, but also because our daily lives have become increasingly shaped not just by innovations in technology, but by shifts in the global economic system and world politics as well. We have been able to reasonably adapt to the challenges and opportunities of this changing global reality. But, undeniably, many of our countrymen are falling through the cracks of these developments.

    Interestingly, it is not the extremely poor who are reacting to these complex issues with great impatience. The sense of desperation is coming rather from those who have relatively more in life. It is they who righteously proclaim their entitlement to something better—better paying jobs, better public transport, more responsive public service, safer neighborhoods, lower taxes, better airports, better hospitals and better schools.

    This is nothing extraordinary. We find this in every country that is in the throes of modernity—the sense of drowning in an accumulation of problems beyond the capacity of existing institutions and leaders to solve. In a flash, the people’s pent-up resentments against the existing order come to a head and find release in the quest for a god who can solve their problems—the traffic jams, the petty criminals, the undisciplined motorists, the insensitive government employee, the abusive cop, the bribe-taking judge, and the thousand and one aggravations that mark their daily lives.

    We don’t need a dictator to tell us how to live. We need a president who can form a capable team that will sort out the complex problems of governance. Yet, no government will ever succeed unless we, the citizens, can rise above our unexamined fears and emotions—high enough to be able to ask what we can do to help our country or, at least, not add to its problems.
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    #2057
    Quote Originally Posted by NiCe2KnowU View Post
    Intindihin nalang natin mga dutertards
    Matinding troma inabot nila sa kanilang buhay malamang iba dyan biktima
    Ng drugs, holdaper etc. ang nakikita nalang nila sulosyun ay si duterte
    Haha kawawa naman [emoji23]


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    Bro naman...

    Be thankful that you have not experienced any of those bad things in life.

    But do not make fun of our unlucky fellowmen who did...

    Let's just respect one another... Thanks.

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    #2058
    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    Can anyone confirm?
    Kung survey pagbabasehan:

    1) FVR & Miriam in 1992 were neck & neck. Konti lang lamang ni FVR kay Miriam in the actual counting.

    2) 1998 - Laki ng lamang ni Erap kay DeVenecia, kaya nga di madaya nila DeVenecia si Erap. This is both in surveys and in actual counting.

    3) 2004 - at the last minute, survey showed GMA ahead of FPJ. Go figure. Garci happened. ;)

    4) 2010 - Villar was like Binay. No.1 at start of the campaign, but at towards thee end, slid down to No.3. PNOY No.1, Erap No. 2. No surprises there.

    5) 2016 - Clearly lamang si Duterte. Unless a miracle happens, mukhang siya na nga mananalo.

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    #2059
    Quote Originally Posted by Calistro View Post
    I won't be surprised if Duterte wins the election, then after 2 years already being bashed for his decisions. Voters are easily swayed by promises and words. If someone regularly takes 'payment' from the NPA, can they really accept that he's not corrupt?

    It's like that for every election and for every sitting president. Can't please everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Kung survey pagbabasehan:

    1) FVR & Miriam in 1992 were neck & neck. Konti lang lamang ni FVR kay Miriam in the actual counting.

    2) 1998 - Laki ng lamang ni Erap kay DeVenecia, kaya nga di madaya nila DeVenecia si Erap. This is both in surveys and in actual counting.

    3) 2004 - at the last minute, survey showed GMA ahead of FPJ. Go figure. Garci happened. ;)

    4) 2010 - Villar was like Binay. No.1 at start of the campaign, but at towards thee end, slid down to No.3. PNOY No.1, Erap No. 2. No surprises there.

    5) 2016 - Clearly lamang si Duterte. Unless a miracle happens, mukhang siya na nga mananalo.
    Thanks. I deleted my post after I also checked that it was inaccurate.

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