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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    gandang araw po sa mga tsikoteer masters!

    buhayin ko lang ulit to.

    i just had my sedan washovered (color silver). i plan to visit it habang gingawa. usapan namin double finish (dagdag extra bayad) -recommended by sir kikkoman. gamit na paint is dupont.

    tanong lang ako

    1. panu ko ba makikita/malalaman na properly prepped/sanded na yung sasakyan? dapat ba rough na surface o iba na kulay ng sasakyan/ kita na primer?

    2. pag stripped to metal ba, ano una dapat ipaint sa metal surface? (some panels kc usapan namin strip to metal e.

    2. after ma prep ba, ilang klaseng paint ginagamit? me first coat na different paint ba or same na? ilang coats ba to normally? once / twice or more pa? (regular washover)

    2. ilang liters ba paint kinoconsume ng isang desinteng washover? regular - d pa kasama d2 yung pang double finish.

    3. the paints ba come in cans na marked dupont parang regular house paint na me tatak/labels or in cans na generic/no markings coz factory mixed?

    4. before the second finish ba dapat patungan na ng top coat yung first finish?

    5. after the regular whashover, dapat ba i buff muna and other finishing touches before doubling the coat (double finish kc usapan namin)

    6. how much time ba dapat antayin in between the first finish and the second finish (pang double coat)?

    i wanna be sure lang po na properly informed ako so i can get my moneys worth.

    tia. tia. tnx po sa lahat.

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    #22
    Hehe. Nagpa-double finish ka pala. OK yan chief, hindi mo pagsisisihan yan.

    1. IMHO, well-cut, even and thorough yung pagkaka-sand ng buong body. Kita na primer? Not necessarily.
    2. Kung stripped, anti-rust then (may isang coating pa na nakalimutan ko yung name), tapos primer na.
    3. After prepping, (1)primer (2)base coat (3)primary color (4)top/clear coat
    4. Decent washover - 1 to 1.5 gallons (medium-sized sedan)
    5. Dapat Du Pont cans talaga. Hindi dapat generic markings, maliban na lang kung bumibili ka ng tingi.
    6. Before the second finish, hindi kailangang patungan ng top coat yung first finish.
    7. I-buff? AFAIK, hindi po. Though sanded siya.
    8. Isang araw lang, sobra-sobra na.

    HTH.

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    #23
    hehehe. tnx to you. napamahal 2loy washover ko . hehehe

    i wasnt really intending on on getting the doubl coat thing but when i was there i asked the painter, ayun natempt ako kc sabi mo ang ganda sabi din nung painter maganda daw, sabi ko what the hell gumastos na din ako todo na hehehe. bawas nalang muna dates hehehe saka tipid muna sa school. i ended up with double, but wala ako exp sa painting at double coat e so needed the info to be sure na double coated nga at maayos pag gawa.

    bale after prep, isang coat/pasada ng primer, then patuyuin then isang pasada/coat ng basecoat then isang pasada ng primary color (tig isang coats/daan lang per kind) then since double coat, ulitin ba yung process primer then basecoat then primary color tapos saka na clearcoat ulit as last. sabihin ko nalang cguro na patuyuin yung clearcoat then isa pa para mas makintab. then after clearcoat sakana buffing?

    bale 1-1.5 gals per kind? ie primer (1-1.5) basecoat (1-1.5) etc.?

    alin ba dun ang dupont, yung primary color lang or lahat (primer, basecoat etc)

    tnx at tia sensie

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    #24
    Eto steps:
    1. Primer
    2. Basecoat
    3. Primary
    4. Sand
    5. Primary
    6. Top Coat/Clear Coat
    7. Sand
    8. Buff to Perfection

    - Sa primer, OK na 1 gallon. Mahalaga lang kasi syempre yung nasa ibabaw.
    - Mas OK kung DuPont lahat. Yung iba kasi, tinitipid. Maganda lang yung pangibabaw, tapos tinipid yung primer. Durability ang magsusuffer syempre.

    And oo, tutal nagpawashover ka rin lang naman, sagarin mo na. Hindi naman yan regular na gawain eh. Kung maalaga at maselan ka rin lang sa sasakyan, baka lifetime mo na rin yan. Teka, saan ka nga ulit nagpagawa?

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    #25
    1. Primer
    2. Basecoat
    3. Primary
    4. Sand
    5. Primary
    6. Top Coat/Clear Coat
    7. Sand
    8. Buff to Perfection

    yang 1-8 steps na yan ay para sa double coat na? primary lang pala ang dinouble. sand? lilihain? d ba magagasgas yung pintura pag niliha?

    yun nga din naisip ko minsanan lang yan kaya todo ko na. dun sa dasher. dun sa dati sinabi ko sa u na malapit sa amin. along dr a santos. yung me servitek na billboard. malapit lang kya pede ko punta puntahan after my classes hehehehe.

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    #26
    Sina-sand talaga para kumapit yung second coat.

    Dasher? OO, nakita ko na nga yung separate space provision nila right next to their tire shop. Bago lang nga ata.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by deathlance View Post
    eh guys anu ba tlga magandang shop para mag papintura, padami ng padami ung maganda ah, ung mura pero tlgang ok
    Have my two cars already done in the paint shop along quirino avenue using anzahl paint finish for 15k each.

    Ok kinalabasan, no pinholes..

    baklas din lahat kaso matagal ang trabaho.. inabot ng 3 weeks.

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    #28
    saan iyon dasher at mag kano lahat inabot ng damage?

    pix naman ng pagtapos na para kita kintab ,baka mag pahilamos din jan

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    #29
    ^^^ Paranaque ka din ba chief?

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    #30
    *kikkoman pero after top/clear coat and b4 buffing sinnasand din ba?
    yung buffing ba in washovers same sa buffing in detailing?

    25k inabot. double finish. kasama na latero work on the bumper, me pina modify kc ako plus repainting ng limang gulong some panels srtip to metal (hood saka isang panel sa likod-side)

    sir nakita mo ba yung blue starex na nakapark dun asample yun ng gawa nila maganda naman kintab e

    *boeing_747
    pilot ka ba chief? i will post after photos pag katapos. expect to be done by end of nov.
    sedan ba ipagagawa mo?

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