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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    gandang araw mga tsikoteers,

    im planning on having my silver elantra 97 (sedan not the wagon) reapinted and modded ng kunti ngayong sem break. ginagamit ko lang sya pang skul and pang labas labas.

    questions lang po

    1. anong pinakamagandang shade/ kind ng silver, yung pinaka astig and sportiest hehehe. (mejo natural kc na slightly sporty yung look ng elantra e)

    2. which is better dupont o k92 paints? (e2 kc yung options dun sa paint shop e)

    3. ok pa naman kapit ng paint sa metal except that discolored na at daming surface defects yung paint at d na glossy, plus me ilang dents at scratches. ngayon which is better and practical , to have it stripped to metal or simply liha lang yung surface?

    4. ano yung orange peel? (nabasa ko sa isang thread but d naman snabi kung ano yun)

    5. ano bang dapat kung ibigay na special intruction request sa paint shop para , masiguro na pulido trabaho?

    6. ibang paint ba ginagamit as primer and as pang ibabaw? if yes and dupont or k92 yung pang ibabaw ano magandang primer?

    7. iba ba paint/primer na ginagamit for the plastic/carbon fiber (bumper etc) and for the metal (body itself) ng auto?

    8. is 6 months warranty good enough? lalabas na ba defects/imperfections in six months pag d maganda trabaho?

    sencia na kung madami masyado tanong or if stupid dating ng tanong la kc kong alam talaga e.

    maraming maraming salamat po sa tulong.

    sabi nga in TT (tsikot talk) TIA.

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    1. SilverStone Metallic.
    2. K-92 (next daw ito sa Anzahl in terms of durability, assuming na pare-parehong magagaling lahat ng nagpe-prep).
    3. OK lang na lihain yung surface. Ganyan din yung kaso ng sasakyang ginagamit ko when I had it repainted a month ago.
    4. AFAIK, eto yung parang balat ng orange yung texture na kinakalabasan nung paint (parang may mga maliliit na pinholes at baku-bako).
    5. (Di ko masyado sure ito kasi kung balahura talaga yung pintor eh kahit sabihan mo pa, wala din). Sabihin mo na lang na mas OK sana na kung sino ang magpi-pintura ay siya na rin ang mag-prep ng sasakyan mo. And mas OK sana kung baklas lahat (alisin yung mga ilaw, rubber moldings, etc.) para maisama sa pagpipintura. Yung iba kasi, tini-tape lang eh.
    6. Iba syempre ang paint sa primer. Ang kung ano ang paint mo ay siya din dapat ang primer mo (kung Anzahl ang ginamit na paint eh dapat Anzahl din yung primer). Yung iba kasi, Anzahl yung paint pero cheap primer lang ang ginamit. Nagsu-suffer yung quality.
    7. Pareho lang.
    8. Yung iba, oo, lumalabas agad (lalo na kung barubal talaga ang pagkakagawa). OK na din siguro yung 6 months, though may iba na 2 years pa ata ang (limited) warranty.

    Suggestion: since na silver gusto mo, mas OK sana kung ipa-double finish mo yung paint mo. Will cost you more pero maganda talaga.

    HTH.

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    1.no clue,personal preference yan.
    2.i don't have experience with k92 so do ko ma compare.(tanong mo sa shop na mag paint ng auto mo kung ano ang difference)
    3.It's better kung stripped to bare metal and spray it with epoxy primer.
    4.orange peel is yung resulta ng paint mo pakatapos, parang balat ng orange.
    5.tell them to prep it right and add extra layer of clear coat.
    6.Yes, epoxy primer.Most brand names has epoxy primer.
    7.pareho lang basta tama ang pagka prep kakapit ang pintura.Bull$hit lang yun flex additive at adhesion promoter.
    8.I would say 1 year kung 6mos di pa lalabas ang mga defects nyan especially yung bubbles.

    word of advice check mo muna yung work ng painter kung satisfied ka sa gawa then check mo rin yun shop kung paano nila i prep yung car bago nila sprayan.If you're satisfied then go for it.

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    #4
    try mo na lang siguro mag inquire sa wetlook (check their thread).

    they give 2yr warranty. ;)

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    #5
    thanks po sa mga info

    * kikkoman

    ano kotse sa kalsada ngayon ang naka silverstone metallic or etong color na to d na available sa stock - puro aftermarket lang?

    k92 is next to anzahl, anzahal still the best car paint?

    i requasted na nga na baklas lahat, including yung windshield at everything na d ipipinturahan sa labas. sa doors usapan namin tatangalin yung door msmo ata saka yung cover sa inside part. saka mga plastic plastic sa gilid gilid sa loob tatangalin din. paid 2500 extra for that kasama na tangal ng dents.

    yung double finish ba is the same as adding an extra layer of clearcoat? para saan to durability or gloss/ aesthethics?

    taga paque ka din pala have you heard of dasher? dun ko pagagawa e walking distance lang from fortunata. 15k plus 2500 bucks para sa "extra service" hehehehe. maganda naman gawa nila at least aesthethically dun sa starex na katatapos pa lang. tangal din lahat

    tnx tnx tnx po.


    *m_ron

    walking distance lang so amin yung shop so pede ko daan daan once in a while ok naman gawa nila. at least sa biglang tingin/untrained eye ganda nung starex e.

    tnx. tnx. tnx


    *baiskee

    nabasa ko na before yung s wetlook at jingoys, yung 25k ng wetlook xpired na ata. yung d2 15k + 2.5k lang. malapit pa. wetlook or jingoy mejo me kalayuaan na e

    tnx. tnx. tnx.

    *all

    panu pala masasabi/malalaman na maganda na pagkakaprep at ready na to be painted?

    tnx. tia po talaga mga masters

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    panung expired na ung sa wetlook? btw sabi nila magaling daw tlga sa wetlook endorse nila lagi eh, hehe pero havent eperienced it yet, i hope maganda nga, bakit pla 25k wet look sa iba 15k, is there a special treatment sa paint, service? baka malufet ang pag wash over any infos peepz? curious lang me.. balak ko din kasi dun pa hilamos..

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    Quote Originally Posted by black0men View Post
    thanks po sa mga info

    * kikkoman

    ano kotse sa kalsada ngayon ang naka silverstone metallic or etong color na to d na available sa stock - puro aftermarket lang?

    k92 is next to anzahl, anzahal still the best car paint?

    i requasted na nga na baklas lahat, including yung windshield at everything na d ipipinturahan sa labas. sa doors usapan namin tatangalin yung door msmo ata saka yung cover sa inside part. saka mga plastic plastic sa gilid gilid sa loob tatangalin din. paid 2500 extra for that kasama na tangal ng dents.

    yung double finish ba is the same as adding an extra layer of clearcoat? para saan to durability or gloss/ aesthethics?

    taga paque ka din pala have you heard of dasher? dun ko pagagawa e walking distance lang from fortunata. 15k plus 2500 bucks para sa "extra service" hehehehe. maganda naman gawa nila at least aesthethically dun sa starex na katatapos pa lang. tangal din lahat

    tnx tnx tnx po.
    ** BMW lang ang alam ko na OEM paint ang Silverstone Metallic.
    ** Di ko alam kung Anzahl pa rin ang pinaka-OK, pero kasi matagal na ito sa atin at subok na ito. Kahit yung pintor namin sa shop na 30++ years na nagpipinta and trained sa Japan eh Anzahl pa rin daw ang the best na nagamit niya.
    ** OK kung ganung kadami ang extent ng pagbabaklas (though yung windshield eh OK na kahit hindi baklasin). About naman sa dents: syempre kasama na talaga sa trabaho yun ng pagrerepaint. Depends on the number of detns, yung iba ay nagpapadagdag ng bayad.
    ** Not an extra layer of clear coat. Parang tapos na pinturahan dapat yung sasakyan (maganda na), pero papatungan pa ulit. Durability? Not sure, kasi ngayon ko pa lang nasubukan magpa-double finish (I will assume na lang na mas durable since ayos naman yung pagkakaprep and syempre, mas makapal yung paint); aesthetics? Yes, mas makintab talaga. Parang basang-basa (4th week ko na ngayon since nung nilabas ko sa shop, kaya hindi pa ako nagwa-wax pero parang basa pa rin).
    ** Yup, Pque ako. Dasher? Ang alam ko lang na Dasher is yung Dasher Marketing na humahawak ng Goodyear Servitek sa may Lopez. Php15K lang yung repainting? You might want to read theveed's post about paint shops.

    Out.

  8. #8
    k92 is next to anzahl, anzahal still the best car paint?
    This is highly subjective, given the same conditions, the difference is almost negligable. There are a number of very good paint brands in the market today, there is dupont, sikkens, ppg, k-92. I have no experience with anzahl so I'm not gonna comment on it, however with the brands I mentioned color matching is not a big problem because it is computerized.

    It all boils down to the prep phase, this is the most time consuming phase, this will be the difference bef.

    Read theveed's post about selecting a good paint shop, it covers almost all the bases.

    panu pala masasabi/malalaman na maganda na pagkakaprep at ready na to be painted?
    Check the panels if its properly sanded down, check the body filler or masilya if its propery sanded to match the contour of the body.

  9. Join Date
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    *deatlance

    i mnean lapse na pala yung 25k promo. hanagang sept 30 lang ata.

    *kikkoman

    yup yun nga yung sa me servitek dun sa left side nya yung shop nila para sa pintura. minsan pag napadaan ka dun check mo yung starex na blue na. from grey dati. ganda ng pintura. yun din gus2 kong silver yung sa bmw, d ko lang alam tawag dun silverstone pala.
    bale 15k yung promo nila sa washover plus 2500 dhill sa "extra service"


    *ilovedetailing

    nabasa ko na din yun. additional reasearch lang para madami na ko alam pag pinagawa ko na hehehe. sa tingin ko naman maayos trabaho nila sa 15k+2.5k kasi nakita ko yung last nila ginawa e.

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    *kikkoman

    sir saan mo pala pinagawa yng sa u? sedan o suv? magkano inabot? ano kulay pala bka nkikita kita sa daan hehehe.

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