Whats the best diesel SUV at 850K?

[LBjames]

Guys! im a newbie here and im planning to buy a car in October. At first im really inlove with the new civic but i realized all flood, potholes,the long distance drives and the 6 pesos difference of gas to diesel. So i tried looking for diesel alternatives that is within my budget, the typical AUVs came up but they are just not my type, in fact I hate AUVs. So now the SUVs are my target but only the good second hand ones.

Guys, help me decide on what second hand SUVs (diesel) should i buy and is that a good idea over a brand new civic? Currently on my list is a second hand 98 prado diesel M/T, next is the brand new civic.

Is it true that diesel engines last 1M kms?

[basti08]

for the SUV, the newest Ford Everest you can get.

[Mojo]

Diesel engines are built tougher especially 80s diesel engines, to withstand the high pressure fuel compression nature of the diesel engines.

The Diesel engines of the 80s are made of block IRON, which is tougher than your present day aluminumized diesel engine, But in general present day diesel engines can outlast gas engines, one reason is the lubricating nature of the diesel fuel, less wear and tear for the engine, the high pressure resistant engine block which is usually designed with allowance.


the 1 Million Km is usually for the 80s designed engines, the newer ones, although they can outlast any gas engines, they wont last as long as the old school or 80s designed BI block engines.

[rion]

but how about Xuv Crosswind? never owned a crosswind but it's reputation of low fuel comsumption is very good.

what's the engine of that 98 prado diesel M/T?

[oliver1013]

Pajero 99 model 4X4 pa. Basta hanap ka 1st owner at maayos in general yung unit. Wala ka problema sa parts dahil kahit saan meron. And as mentioned above very reliable yung engine kasi old school ang mga parts ng pajero. And to think na andami pang gen 1 na tumatakbo.

[Syuryuken]

Get a Paj. Sa 850K may makukuha ka ng Gen 2.5 Pajero.

[larshell]

97 LarndRover Discovery TDi Swak sa budget mo kaya lang medyo mahirap humanap. Durability subok na. 95-96 Pajero or Montero w/ your budget you can get two. 96-98 Safari. If you want i can send some pics of Gen1 and Gen2 Montero that is Forsale. PM nalang.

[LBjames]

Thanks for the info Mojo!

rion, im not into AUVs eh... dont get me wrong, isuzu's diesel actually has a very good reputation but the resale value and noise of the isuzu diesel is just plain wrong...

oliver.. actually lagi pumapasok sa isip ko yang pajero e, the thing is my family is too loyal to mitsu and i have a really bad impression with the brand, bilis masira mitsu e, except for the box type lancer ng dad ko before... biruin mo it went thru lahar in pampanga during the pinatubo days, kasabay lang nya mga truck, headlight level na kasi yung lahar nun and yet keeps on going and going ... but the cars that came after that sirain na,

So are you guys saying the 98' prado is not a good idea?

[vinj]

Some choices (2nd hand):
- '99 to '00 Patrol Safari
- '99-'00 Pajero
- '04-'05 Ford Everest

Can't go wrong with these; it's just a matter of finding a good unit.

[kimpOy]

agree on vinj's

the last time ( 2 sundays ago) i check on the papers may 01 na Nissan Patrol M/T nasa 880K...neg pa yun pasok na pasok sa budget...

[Eismann]

Get the new civic...imo, this is the benchmark car of today. And you get to drive a benchmark. Wag ka na lang dumaan sa mga baha.

[OTEP]

If you want Land Rover Discovery Mk1's (1997), there are two for sale in 4x4ph. One red and one green. Both local units, both TDi/Matic with dual sunroof. Asking for both is Php850k give or take a little.

There's also a '93 Discovery (earlier Mk1) V8 for sale. Former embassy vehicle, full offroad set up including winch, rocksliders, reinforced everything. Asking is Php500k.

Are you referring to the LC90 Prado? Local units are a bit too bare. M/T only with dark gray interior. 4wd system is still old school manual hubs. The 125bhp 3.0 diesel is ok. And if you don't want to be just another Pajero on the street, this can be your ticket.

Pajero Field Masters go for as low as Php750k nowadays. Only early models were 4x4, the rest are 4x2.

Local Nissan Patrol Safari (code GQ) are relatively inexpensive, built like tanks, and can take on anything. However, they do drive like trucks and you have to be careful when in low clearance parking areas due to the bubble top design.

[mikmik316]

I'll vote for the Pajero... Tamang size, tamang hatak, tamang parts availability, tamang prestige...

Pag patrol binili mo, akalain sayo bodyguard ka
Pag trooper binili mo, isipin nila na mahilig ka magtipid
Pero pag pajero binili mo, lahat ng guard sa mga subdivision at mga pulis sasaludo sayo...

Pasensya na kung biased pero yun ang naging experience ko e....

P.S. Buy only local Gen 2.5 Pajeros with 4WD or imported Montero v6 Gen 2.5. Wag tangkilikin ang Subic Pajs!

[drey]

Pajero!!! HIndi madaling masira po ang Mitsu!!!

Marami pa ata tumatakbo na Gen 1 Paj! And dont forget the L3? Still a lot of companies buy them kasi matibay...

[cyrusblutrooper]

everest AUV or SUV?

[Horsepower]

If you want Land Rover Discovery Mk1's (1997), there are two for sale in 4x4ph. One red and one green. Both local units, both TDi/Matic with dual sunroof. Asking for both is Php850k give or take a little.

There's also a '93 Discovery (earlier Mk1) V8 for sale. Former embassy vehicle, full offroad set up including winch, rocksliders, reinforced everything. Asking is Php500k.

Are you referring to the LC90 Prado? Local units are a bit too bare. M/T only with dark gray interior. 4wd system is still old school manual hubs. The 125bhp 3.0 diesel is ok. And if you don't want to be just another Pajero on the street, this can be your ticket.

Pajero Field Masters go for as low as Php750k nowadays. Only early models were 4x4, the rest are 4x2.

Local Nissan Patrol Safari (code GQ) are relatively inexpensive, built like tanks, and can take on anything. However, they do drive like trucks and you have to be careful when in low clearance parking areas due to the bubble top design.

Mag Land Rover ka na lang. Elite pa tingin sa'yo. hehehe.

[niky]

RE: Everest: It's a true SUV. It's based on the Ranger platform, giving it relatively good off-road ability for such a cheap car.

RE: Crosswind: despite the butch looks of the XUV, it's definitely no SUV. The undercarriage is nice and sturdy, but it's not something you want to take off-road.

[LBjames]

OTEP yes im referring to the LC-90 prado...

About the land rovers that some were suggesting, i dont think their parts are that available in the market and also the service, thus they are not on my list. Besides, i dont like the design both interior n exterior..

About the gen 2.5 pajero, the only thing i dont like about it is that it only comes with automatic tranny... and a/t are prone to problems like lose power when it gets old, not to mention the higher fuel consumption..

Some are also saying pajeros generate more noise and that prados offer more comfortable rides..

For those who suggested patrols... im not even considering it coz i hate its interior... (too bland for me) and if not modified, Di hamak na mas gwapo ang prado (LC-90) and the pajero (gen 2, 2.5)

So, in short.... Its either prado (LC-90) or pajero (gen 2.5) and right now im leaning more to the prado due to the M/T option and the fact that pajeros are EVERYWHERE!

[OTEP]

Land Rover has parts and service facilities. They even have a club (LRCP). But there is a premium for driving the Queen's SUV. Parts and services can be expensive. But there's no denying the fact that you'll look like a million bucks while driving one. And that these trucks have a certain character and charm to them that no Asian brand has.

For getting an a/t, you can always take into consideration that the technology and skill for a/t repair is becoming more widespread locally. By the time you break yours, repairs might not be that difficult anymore. Just like when fuel injected cars came into the market. No one knew how to work on them. Now even shadetree mechanics know how.

Goodluck finding a used LC90. I found more 80's the last time I checked. LC90's were never that popular locally. Most units on the road are ex-JDM (converted). Mid-East spec units are always the best. Orig LHD with all the goodies.

[Horsepower]

With Land Rover and Range Rover parts and service, friend ko yung isa sa mga owners ng Rover shop jan sa Visayas Ave. So hingi lang tayo ng discount :-)