New Roll Over Ratings for SUV released

[pakupakupaku]

Sir old blue how did you know thats its a 2-5 ratio between santafe and outie? or your just Bashing the outie coz u have a sante fe? Dont get me wrong, i used the spec of santafe to COMPARE it with the outie just to predict if it gone to the test and if it would pass it.

[Horsepower]

The outlander neither Passed or Failed but it has an Evo-inspired aluminum roof panel saves 11 pounds and significantly lowers the center of gravity and 1.7 inch lower than santa fe's height. 600-foot slalom = 62.7 mph (avg) compared to santa fe's 60.3 mph (avg), 300lb+ lighter. Sante fe has a wider wheelbase by 1.2 inches. If the taller and narrower vehicle tends to rollover more, outlander "should" pass it. Im no expert but looking at these figures raises the question why wouldnt it pass. Experts please clarify if i miss anything.

http://www.euroncap.com the outlander scored better in crash testing than the santa fe thats a plus.

You mean to say the Pedestrian protection??? If you read it carefully, it says that Hyundai didn't nominate test zones for the SF. That's the reason why there wasn't a score.

[pakupakupaku]

You mean to say the Pedestrian protection??? If you read it carefully, it says that Hyundai didn't nominate test zones for the SF. That's the reason why there wasn't a score.

Sorry for the OT... I didnt looked at the pedestrian protection.


The Outlander
Front impact
Structures in the dashboard presented a potential risk of injury to the knees and femurs of the front seat occupants.
Side impact
The Outlander scored maximum points in the side impact and pole tests

The Santa Fe
Front impact
Several of the structures in the dashboard presented a risk of injury to the pelvis, femurs and knees of the driver and passenger.
Side impact
The Santa Fe scored maximum points for its performance in the side impact test. However, in the pole test, the head-protecting airbag did not fully deploy as intended by Hyundai and the car lost one of the two points available for that test.

In child protection the outie scored a 35, 1 point lower than the santafe.
Well this test does not apply to a real accident which has lots of environmental factors to consider. Im satisfied that they both provide adequate protection to the owner and passengers.

Im comparing the specs of the outie and santafe because they almost have the same specs with observance to rollover probability (height-weight-width-slalom-center of gravity etc....) since they are no reports for the outlander yet(maybe). In a perfect test environment, if two cars have the same overall spec but different brands wouldnt you say that the results will be match or has minimal difference?

I dont favor outie over santafe or vice versa, im asking the experts based on previous post if the outie would likely pass the test or not.

The outlander neither Passed or Failed but it has an Evo-inspired aluminum roof panel saves 11 pounds and significantly lowers the center of gravity and 1.7 inch lower than santa fe's height. 600-foot slalom = 62.7 mph (avg) compared to santa fe's 60.3 mph (avg), 300lb+ lighter. Sante fe has a wider wheelbase by 1.2 inches. If the taller and narrower vehicle tends to rollover more, outlander "should" pass it. Im no expert but looking at these figures raises the question why wouldnt it pass. Experts please clarify if i miss anything.

i guess i have to go with BB's answer

outlander bagong bago pa kaya ala pa rating! :rofl01:

[TFR]

Pareho lang silang magaling!!!

[Camgen6]

Nagiging Outlander vs. Santa Fe thread na naman to.

[oldblue]

sa pagkaalam ko tatlong taon na outlander sa America or bale 1 yr older sa Sta Fe pero di pa din included sa ratings

[BlueBimmer]

^tsk tsk get your facts straight naman before mindlessly posting away

http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/mi...ews/index.html

http://www.internetautoguide.com/rev...006/index.html

[pakupakupaku]

Para akong nkipagtalo sa erpat ko (kitid wetware), tagalog na lang. Hinde ko sinasabing mas maganda ang santafe nyo kaysa outlander at hinde ko rin sinasabi mas maganda ang outlander sa santa fe.

Pinag kukumpara ko sila kase halos pareho sila ng haba,laki,lapad at bigat etc. Kaya ko ginamit yung pinakamahal ninyong santafe sa pag kumpara kase wala pang resulta yung outlander sa roll over test, kaya ang ginawa ko ay naghanap ako ng maiihambing sa outlander, eh nagkataon na ang pinakamalapit ay ang santa fe kaya ko siya ginamit. Ibig sabihin ng walang resulta ay hinde pa sila nakapag test ng sasakyan.

Hinde rin naman ibig sabihin na bumagsak na ito manong. Pag ang dalawang bagay ay halos magkapareho may chance na kung anong gawin mo dun sa isa HALOS pareho sila ng resulta. Nauubusan na ako ng tagalog kaya
paki hanap na lang po yung ibig sabihin ng [SIZE=7]Comparative Analysis

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[surg]

The 2007 outlander we have now is totally different from the 2006 or older models. the 2007 outlander is as it is, newly released lang talaga.I think old blue should research first before posting at hindi yun banat ng banat nonsense naman. in almost every topic, biased or one-sided ang mga opinions nya or as pakupakupaku post: "kitid wetware"

[BlueBimmer]

The 2007 outlander we have now is totally different from the 2006 or older models. the 2007 outlander is as it is, newly released lang talaga.I think old blue should research first before posting at hindi yun banat ng banat nonsense naman. in almost every topic, biased or one-sided ang mga opinions nya or as pakupakupaku post: "kitid wetware"

pansin mo rin boss ha, spin doctor daw e.

manong :rofl01:

[surg]

pansin mo rin boss ha, spin doctor daw e.

manong :rofl01:

tagal ko na pansin but hinahayaan ko na lang, as they say: "live and let live" but minsan kasi sumosobra na. seems nagpopost lang siya just for the sake of posting kahit nonsense naman. ika nga: spin doctor ---> umiikot ang utak! hehehe

[oldblue]

eh bakit may Ford Edge, Mz CX-7 saka CRV na dun pero wala pa din outlander. puro this year din ni-release yun ah pero wala pa din outlander sa ratings.

saka si josh yun mayari ng outlander dito na tiga-US, 2k6 pa siya may outlander, yun bago yun ha, yun avatar niya eh

[BlueBimmer]

e bakit sabi mo 3yrs na? tapos ngayon 2006 naman hirit mo? labo mo naman?

[mazdamazda]

kung santa fe 2 beses lang mag-rollover baka outlander 5 beses sa pangalan pa lang talagang lilipad ka sa land

That's an infraction for you.

BlueBimmer & co., wag nyo na patulan.

:police:

[alwayz_yummy]

hello SUVs ride naman nyo, kahit may traction,active yaw-control at kung anu pang gadgets/electronic aids, kung ililiko mo ala-drift car, tataob yan..

guidelines lang naman yan for me...sana di kayo magtalo which is better-->you're just like comparing your trump-card(yung card game) here...

[surg]

I don't think the objective of this thread is to compare the rides of each tsikoteers. In fact, hindi naman applicable sa mga models released dito yun ratings bcoz the models released here like the Sta.Fe na pinakamamahal ni oldblue do not have the safety features necessary. So, useless na ipagmalaki mo ride mo bcoz wala yun necessary safety feature.

I think kaya meron yun josh ng new outlander even 2006 pa lang is bcoz vehicles are usually released in the US a few months ahead e.g. meron na nga mga 2008 models ng ibang car manufacturers being released in the US as early as now eh di ba si Josh ay tga-US so that may explain why he had the 07 model outlander even nun 2006 pa lang. sometimes, you just need to think first before opening your mouth (or in this case, before posting)...got it OLDBLUE?

[pup2]

Reading the article, I get the impression na basta SUV or CUV, they automatically assign a best rating of 4 stars. Does this mean they have different standards between cars and SUVs?

[rudyphoto]

Tama si OldBlue, Wag na ipagpilitan kung wala talaga dyan ang outie. Tagal na 2007 outlander sa US almost 1 year na.

[mazdamazda]

that means updated na ang list at wala talaga outlander

As bluebimmer said, the Outlander is relatively new and has not yet completed its full testing cycle by the NHTSA.

FYI - the 1st gen Outlander only scored 3/5, and so did the old Santa Fe.

Here's the complete list of the vehicles tested by the NHSTA: http://www.safercar.gov/RollRatings2.cfm?rYear=2007

Nasaan ang BMW X5, Audi Q7 at Cayenne?

Like the Outlander, the testing for these vehicles are not yet done.

Reading the article, I get the impression na basta SUV or CUV, they automatically assign a best rating of 4 stars. Does this mean they have different standards between cars and SUVs?

Nope... in the link that I pasted above, there were several SUV/trucks that got a 3 rating like the Trailblazer, Element, Sportage, Cherokee, etc.

Btw, the Sorento's original rating is 3, an updated to the stability program needs to be done for those manufactured before Jun 2006.

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Another warning, don't turn to another SF vs Outlander vs Whatever thread again.

[drey]

Thanks you sir m2...

Ive been watching this thread and been waiting for you to intervene. Someone is really determined to force feed and force worship the Sta. Fe.