Help!!! (part 2)

[Boy2]

sir IceColdBeer::: Thanks!!!

me... i dont know where to work pa after i graduate, pero my uncles want me to work for our farm sa Davao. As of now wala pa akong plans where to work...

this summer i'll be going to Illinois, try to check out some farms there...

May Off-Roading kaya dun? :mrgreen:

[kimpOy]

ice cold yan din ang plano ko pag nagretire ako
farm, fishpond and 4x4
relax relax lang kumikita pa!

early retirement gusto ko mga 40s naka relax na akoice cold yan din ang plano ko pag nagretire ako
farm, fishpond and 4x4
relax relax lang kumikita pa!

early retirement gusto ko mga 40s naka relax na ako

[IceColdBeer]

kimpOy,
Yup! Same here, early retirement at 40s. Life begins at 40, so panibagong buhay, parelax relax na lang at kumikita pa :wink:
Negosyo ko kasi dati export ng live fish (Lapulapu) tsaka local supply ng mga bangus fry sa Bulacan, kaya lang naging very saturated ang market and it's a very risky business so inistop ko pero andyan pa rin yung soft spot ko sa mga fishponds. Sama mo na rin ang farming and of course off-roading pag natuto na ko sa inyo he he :mrgreen:

[kimpOy]

ako naman may fishpond sila misis maliit lang,
sa ngayon idle lang walang aksyon kasi bumabaha
sayang naman kung mawawala lang yung nga tilapia
pag bumaha, lapit lang kasi sa ilog eh

nung sinabi ni misis na 4x4 lang ang pede pumunta
yung ngiti ko hindi ma alis

[wildthing]

pero i'll try to get high grades sa Araneta then lipat po ako LB... im desperate to take up agriculture kaya po kahit saang campus ok lang sakin, besides sobrang lapit po dito ng De La Salle-Araneta.

Eto lang ang consequence ng transferee...dapat close to 1.0 ang GPA (grade point average) mo. As in i-perfect mo dapat ang first year mo! At dahil non-UP system ang panggagalingan mo, baka wala ring ma-credit sa mga kinuha mo - hanep sa discrimination 'no?!

The easier way is actually to transfer from one UP campus to another UP campus. Directly speaking, if you took your first year in a different campus say UP Clark (kahit business course) then you transfer to UPLB (say BS Agri) mas malamang na maaccept ka and the subjects you have taken will also be credited (di mo na kailangan ulitin).

The first year is generally a "GE" (General Education) subjects so even if you take from one campus mas malamang na make-credit sa ibang campus or college.

regarding naman po sa CLSU, ... madali lang po ba puntahan yung CLSU?

Napakadali pero may kalayuan nga lang....madaming route....you can enter Sta Rita exit and drive all the way straight to Muñoz, NE....including traffic its at least 3 hrs drive siguro. Puede ring through Sn Fernando or Angeles Exit and also through Tarlac City and Pangasinan.

ice cold yan din ang plano ko pag nagretire ako
farm, fishpond and 4x4
relax relax lang kumikita pa!

Kung ako sa inyo huwag mo nang hintayin ang retirement....there are a lot of ways do fishpond rearing (ng kikita) and easier to manage din siya. Kung seryoso kayo how make it out properly pede ko kayong matulungan dyan.

[IceColdBeer]

wildthing,
thx! Hayaan mo pag meron na akong fishpond, kokontakin kita. Meron akong mga offers before kaya lang nasa province (mostly in Iloilo and Zamboanga). Di ko pa kaya kasi nasa labas pa ako tsaka meron pa akong inaasikasong iba.

Question: okay rin ba yung mga organic food para sa mga fishpond? Meron din kasing offer sa akin, production naman ng mga organic food in Capiz. Actually sa Davao galing kaya lang gusto nilang magsetup sa Capiz kasi mas malalaki ang mga fishponds doon. Pasensiya na sa tanong ha

[IceColdBeer]

kimpOy,
I suggest tuloy mo na yan kung meron ka na. Sayang din naman. Mas okay yan kung pagawan mo pa ng kubo sa gitna tapos yayain mo kami, dun tayo inuman habang namimingwit para sa pulutan he he :mrgreen:

[wildthing]

Question: okay rin ba yung mga organic food para sa mga fishpond? Meron din kasing offer sa akin, production naman ng mga organic food in Capiz. Actually sa Davao galing kaya lang gusto nilang magsetup sa Capiz kasi mas malalaki ang mga fishponds doon. Pasensiya na sa tanong ha

Okay yan sir in terms of "Marketing" kaso, by strict definition napakahigpit ng classification ng "organic food". We need to know the details why they called it "organic"....Ang potential niyan ay not local but export sir....kasi very conscious na international market ngayon sa antibiotic residues and GMO (genetically modified organisms) products that are being fed to their animals (like fish and shrimps).....Maganda itong sabayan pero super grabe gumawa ng marketing campaign for that....terminology namin dyan "Value-Added Selling"

In layman term, isang ordinaryong bagay na binigayan mo ng istorya para mas malaki ang selling price at kita :lol: :lol: :lol:

However, if it was really a real mackoy na organic food....by golly you have found a treasure....kahit within 1 or 2 years puede ka na (este TAYO :lol: :wink: ) magretiro and reap our bounty harvest.

Suggest ko ay get more info on that para maevaluate ng ayos. But definitely don't put your money on it yet at baka scam iyan.

OTng OT na ito....if you're serious in pursuing this you can email me at whyldthing*yahoo.com - advise me if you send email so I could check it out.

[Boy2]

pero i'll try to get high grades sa Araneta then lipat po ako LB... im desperate to take up agriculture kaya po kahit saang campus ok lang sakin, besides sobrang lapit po dito ng De La Salle-Araneta.

Eto lang ang consequence ng transferee...dapat close to 1.0 ang GPA (grade point average) mo. As in i-perfect mo dapat ang first year mo! At dahil non-UP system ang panggagalingan mo, baka wala ring ma-credit sa mga kinuha mo - hanep sa discrimination 'no?!

The easier way is actually to transfer from one UP campus to another UP campus. Directly speaking, if you took your first year in a different campus say UP Clark (kahit business course) then you transfer to UPLB (say BS Agri) mas malamang na maaccept ka and the subjects you have taken will also be credited (di mo na kailangan ulitin).

The first year is generally a "GE" (General Education) subjects so even if you take from one campus mas malamang na make-credit sa ibang campus or college.

regarding naman po sa CLSU, ... madali lang po ba puntahan yung CLSU?

Napakadali pero may kalayuan nga lang....madaming route....you can enter Sta Rita exit and drive all the way straight to Muñoz, NE....including traffic its at least 3 hrs drive siguro. Puede ring through Sn Fernando or Angeles Exit and also through Tarlac City and Pangasinan.

grabe po pala ang required GPA pag transferee...

thanks for the routes!!

i'll try to go there basta hindi na po busy... do you have an idea kung kelan po ang entrance exams ng CLSU? thanks!

[wildthing]

grabe po pala ang required GPA pag transferee...

Sinabi mo!!!...DISCRIMINATION tawag ko dun. BTW alam mo bang hindi pa huli ang lahat if you really want to enter the UP System ..... if you know your GPA sa entrance exam mo....meron ilang campuses or colleges ng UP that would accept that (hindi naman siguro below 3.0 ang nakuha mo 'no?!? ) Have you heard of the SPEAR program ng UP Diliman - it's two year semivocational degree on Sports. You can take the course...and finish it in 2 or less than 2 years then transfer to UPLB and finish BS Agriculture (mga 3 years or less na lang siguro)....at the same time qualified Sports or PE teacher kana after the SPEAR program so puede kang working student (apply ka ng PE teacher sa UPLB ng mga chiching - he,he, he)

thanks for the routes!!

i'll try to go there basta hindi na po busy... do you have an idea kung kelan po ang entrance exams ng CLSU? thanks!

I'll see if I could get info....i-txt ko sayo asap....kung maluwag din ang sked ko I could even accompany you sa CLSU kung sakali.

[IceColdBeer]

thx uli sir wildthing! I just sent you an email.

pasensya na mga peeps medyo naging OT na he he :oops:

[Boy2]

ok po yun sir ah... basta po pag medyo naka-libre ako i'll text you na lang po about the sched on going to CLSU... thanks po talaga

[wildthing]

icecold beer, sent you my reply.

boy2, no problem all the time....sana I have known your dilema earlier...I could have tipped you off better how to get into the UP system....madaming tricks of trade dyan sa pagpasok ....in fact ang sabi nga namin e....."madali makapasok sa UP ang problema e kung papaano tumagal at makatapos, he,he,he"

[Boy2]

pero do you think po ba na [/b]De La Salle[/b] can change one's perception against Araneta U.?

[wildthing]

It has just been a year or two since De La Salle acquired GAUF, so far so good. The campus was a bit better now than before. From my interview sa veterinary class na tinuruan ko dun, the veterinary college is their biggest (comprising 90% of the studentry if I recall it right). So if you would be taking BS Agri dun...you would be in one of the minority groups and as such will probably not be given a good educational background - I could be wrong you know :cry: take this as my opinion. How can you practice agri if wala naman land to till or area to raise animal (puro bahayan na ang GAUF nowadays).

Sa field na ginagalawan ko, I have yet to see a BS Agri graduate ng GAUF (na 90's generation ha) na successfull!!! Sa vet nila merong mga successfull but mostly from the 70's and 80's batch (these were the heydays of GAUF wherein they rank 2nd to UPLB in terms of vet and agri).

I am definitely bias....but what you're going to do is your future and not mine....so you better decide well.

If I where in your shoes at this moment, my decissions would be: 1st option - to try to get into UP system (kahit saang campus and any course basta nasa UP campus ka dapat). From there I would shift after a semester or year to UPLB to take agriculture. 2nd option - take BS Agri in CLSU instead...no need to shift to UPLB (i believe that they teach well enough and they are better funded than UPLB these days). To gain "recognition" and "respect" in the field, I make sure I have a laude when I graduate in CLSU. 3rd option ko lang to take 1 sem or 1 year of BS Agri in De La Salle (Araneta) then transfer to UPLB.

As explained to sa 'yo- its easier to transfer from UP to UP than from De La Salle (Araneta) to UP.

But again, that is if I were in your shoes!!!

Please think your options over well.

There are a lot of other good Agri schools by the way - one in Cagayan de Oro (forgot the name), one in Cotabato (Mindanao State U), one in Isabela (Isabela State U) and Siliman (Negros yata ito). Yun nga lang ang masakit sa kurso ng Agri...it's never near to a city . Pero ganun talaga e, if you're serious in taking Agri.

Maiba lang ako, ano ba farm ninyo sa Davao? sa hayop ba o sa halaman?

I got lot of friends there in Davao - some former classmates, a fraternity brod (an Iñigo - from a Lopez clan) and a client (Señorita Farm - a big piggery sa Sta Cruz).

[Boy2]

Sari-Sari po ang farm namin sa Davao...

we are a contract grower of DOLE Phils. for Bananas
we have the Piggery Project (most developed)
An orchid Garden
A certified Crocodile farm by the DENR
and lastly our experimental Ostrich farm

although madami nga... i still cant rely on this farm... we do not know if it is going to be sturdy. for the economy in Davao had boosted down... :?



i plan to go to US naman po if ever di kayanin ng farm sa davao. i may work there. and this summer i'll be visiting a farm in illinois in which the owner i think works in Illinois Dept. of Agriculture


I'm just hoping na this school year... maayos na po ng La Salle ang system nila...

[wildthing]

Sa totoo lang buhay ang agriculture...maganda ang "product spread" ng operations ninyo...may be you should also consider agricultural business (agri biz na kurso). Kasi in my assesment mas malaki ang chance mo na mag-succeed ang agri biz kung magaling ka magmarket ng pinuproduce mo.

If you would notice, most of your products are geared for export markets (except the piggery - which I suggest that you sell your output to Cebu than locally in Davao maganda ang price ng karne ng baboy sa Cebu). Napakaganda nito.....

Pupunta ka na rin lang ng US, why don't you consider dun kumuha ng colleg degree mo. Kansas State U, Michigan State U, Cornell U, Purdue U, UCLA, Texas A&M U are a few of the very good Universities in the US that you get into when it comes to Agriculture (these are also the most common universities na pinagtapusan ng MSc or PhD ng mga propessor ko sa UPLB). Napagandang foundation if you take your degree there. It is not cheap (I know) but anyway you're willing work naman dun di ba.... e di mag work and study ka....get assistanship....ang daming options.

[Boy2]

oo nga ano... madami nga din po palang magagandang universities sa states... i'll seek for assistance na lang.

pero diba po mas kinakampihan ng govt. natin ang mga imported porks. bakit kaya ganun? eh ok naman po ang quality ng mga pork natin dito sa Pinas!


and one thing i learned... maaring halos lahat ng business mawala... wag lang ang agriculture.. Humans need it for survival... kaya buhay po talaga ang agri.. ang problema po, our government does not give enough time and budget to support it...

[wildthing]

pero diba po mas kinakampihan ng govt. natin ang mga imported porks. bakit kaya ganun? eh ok naman po ang quality ng mga pork natin dito sa Pinas!

Political iyan tanong mo....it's possibly 2 issues .... 1) smuggling (cheap pork and possibly contaminated) and 2) lobbying of politicians...for all you know that is one of the requirements ng World Bank....who knows.... too many posibilities.

and one thing i learned... maaring halos lahat ng business mawala... wag lang ang agriculture.. Humans need it for survival... kaya buhay po talaga ang agri.. ang problema po, our government does not give enough time and budget to support it...

You're korek....that's why I took BS Agri instead of (my original plan) shifting to BS Computer Sci when I was taking my BS.

The government does give time but the budget is really not enough para maipropagate and implement ang mga researches done na. You would be surprised how many published works and scientific break throughs were done by the DA and other agri sectors and yet they are all in the libraries of PCARRD, UPLB, IRRI, etc....hindi na gawang i-implement or ipamahagi sa lahat ng constituents ng agri sector....kasi kulang na sa pondo....btw some publications in TLRC are from these.....but since TLRC is income generating kaya sila sikat at naipopromote ang mga ito.

Goodluck sa iyong trip....sana'y makahanap ka nararapat sa iyo na eskuela at kurso.

[kimpOy]

OT wildthing text na lang kita usap tayo kapag free wala kang ginagawa, he..he

kimpOy,
I suggest tuloy mo na yan kung meron ka na. Sayang din naman. Mas okay yan kung pagawan mo pa ng kubo sa gitna tapos yayain mo kami, dun tayo inuman habang namimingwit para sa pulutan he he

call ako diyan!