"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[niky]

Producer/Operator. Cut out a whole crapload of middlemen. Works out that way, but it would still have to be cash-positive by the end of the battery's life, otherwise it's money wasted.

[uls]

^^
yep. even if they buy batteries at wholesale price it's not gonna be cheap

so just to break-even the ejeepneys have to earn enough to pay drivers' salaries, electric bills (recharging), cost of replacing batteries, aside from stuff that wear out like tires, etc

[uls]

the TUCP is too optimistic

malayo pa ang salary basis for PUJ drivers

isolated case ang ejeepney operator

manufacturer sila eh

di naman katulad ni Mang Lando na may tatlong jeepney na may linya cubao stop-n-shop... boundary system... di niya kaya magpasweldo ng driver

[ghosthunter]

It is just frustrating with the e-jeepney getting praises from so many groups and individuals that they all fail to realize that batteries (a major cost component) wear out & needs replacing on a regular basis in the operational life of the e-jeepney.

[ghosthunter]

the TUCP is too optimistic

malayo pa ang salary basis for PUJ drivers

isolated case ang ejeepney operator

manufacturer sila eh

di naman yan katulad ni Mang Lando na may tatlong jeepney na may linya cubao stop-n-shop

Lets just wait and when all this folds on itself we can all shout "we told you so!"

[uls]

It is just frustrating with the e-jeepney getting praises from so many groups and individuals that they all fail to realize that batteries (a major cost component) wear out & needs replacing on a regular basis in the operational life of the e-jeepney.

it's like when you buy a new cellphone you don't think about the battery wearing out... matagal pa yan eh

you don't hear media people asking "how long will the battery last? how much does it cost to replace? do the savings you get from not buying diesel enough to pay for a new battery?"

the media naturally focuses on the immediate benefits -- zero emission, environment-friendly. media pa... dami environmentalist sa media. sa politicians naman green is popular

[niky]

Well, cellphones aren't often used as long as cars, the load is much smaller, and a cellphone battery costs... what? A few thousand pesos?

Properly cared for, batteries shouldn't be an issue, as long as they set aside contingency money on a per kilometer basis (say, about 1-2 pesos per kilometer) for eventual pack replacement.

But then, most operators are used to marginal financial planning. Don't think about the cost of repairs till you have to do them. Which is where the one-time-big-time hit of over 100,000 pesos per pack will hit them once the batteries wear out.

[Monseratto]

Most probably the batteries are old-tech lead base not so green...Looking at the E-Jeep, parang backyard production siya. Long term parts and services remains to be seen.

[uls]

Well, cellphones aren't often used as long as cars, the load is much smaller, and a cellphone battery costs... what? A few thousand pesos?

it's the thinking

when people buy anything rechargeable, they don't think about replacing the battery. it's only when madalas na na-lo-low-batt... doon na magtatanong magkano ang bagong battery

Properly cared for, batteries shouldn't be an issue, as long as they set aside contingency money on a per kilometer basis (say, about 1-2 pesos per kilometer) for eventual pack replacement.

sana ganyan. set aside a fund to buy a new battery

But then, most operators are used to marginal financial planning. Don't think about the cost of repairs till you have to do them. Which is where the one-time-big-time hit of over 100,000 pesos per pack will hit them once the batteries wear out.

pag may extra money punta sa beerhouse

emergency fund? what emergency fund?

bahala na si batman

[uls]

Most probably the batteries are old-tech lead base not so green...Looking at the E-Jeep, parang backyard production siya. Long term parts and services remains to be seen.

definitely lead acid yan

at the price of the ejeepney, definitely not lithium-ion

if it was lithium-ion the ejeepney would cost far over a million pesos each

[Monseratto]

Warren Buffet's E-Bus...

BYD e-bus K9 - YouTube

[ghosthunter]

Most probably the batteries are old-tech lead base not so green...Looking at the E-Jeep, parang backyard production siya. Long term parts and services remains to be seen.

The batteries ARE lead acid technology. Motorlite nga sponsor for the first few e-jeepneys.

They are using deep cycle batteries, similar to the type used for golf carts. And those are not cheap, costing around P10,000 each. The e-jeepney should be using somewhere between 8 to 10 batteries in it's battery pack.

[ghosthunter]

pag may extra money punta sa beerhouse

emergency fund? what emergency fund?

bahala na si batman

[uls]

hahaha

wasnt expecting that

[Ry_Tower]

Galing naman niyan.

[niky]

Yup. They're motolite lead-acid deep cycle batteries, around 10k each, 12 cells.

Golf Cart cells are around probably 6-7k, but lower capacity.

These types of batteries are sensitive to heat and overcharging. When you're charging a 12-cell array, you are bound to get damage in one or two batteries, as they overcharge a bit when other cells are a bit lower than they are.

This is why charge-balancing is so critical.

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There's really nothing to prove in terms of technology. Golf-Carts and low speed EVs have used it for decades. The only problem is, whether such technology is suitable to the hard and rigorous use seen in public transport.

So far, I've heard of issues with deep-cycles in mall services and other low-speed EVs. But whether this is a short-coming of the system or due to poor maintenance, I don't know.

[ghosthunter]

PHL, UK push for green transport
Tuesday, 13 March 2012 06:25



March 7, 2012 - Is the Philippines ready for the electric vehicle industry revolution?

Days after launching the first eJeepney franchise in the Philippines, climate policy NGO Institute for Climate and Sustainable Cities (ICSC) says the answer is yes.

Representatives from the private sector, transport operators and drivers, and local government units gathered as experts from the United Kingdom discussed the progress of low-emission vehicles in Europe and North America at a conference held on March 7 at the Manila Polo Club.

At the conference dubbed "Sustainable Transport in the Philippines: Strengthening Opportunities and Creating Partnerships for Electric Public Utility Vehicles," ICSC Director Red Constantino explained that the electric vehicle industry produces a ripple effect, resulting in jobs, social benefits and new revenue.

New investment agenda

"We are promoting nothing less than a new investment agenda aimed at generating green jobs in services and manufacturing while producing margins that can secure more economic benefits for fleet operators, drivers and commuters alike," he said.

In his keynote speech, Senator Ralph Recto called for the early passage of the Alternative Fuel Incentives Bill, which is designed to encourage manufacturers to shift to electric vehicle manufacturing. Recto noted there is now one motor vehicle for every 14 Filipinos, with 7 million motor vehicles on the congested streets. "The automobile has given us the convenience to travel long distances in comfort. It drives our economy because despite the creation of the information highway much of trade still moves on motorized wheels."

But Recto said there is a price to pay for this convenience, and the challenge is to improve the motor vehicle so it will “spew less poison and bleed less foreign exchange.”

"Every hour, 2.029 million liters of gasoline are consumed every hour, with one kilometer of road built or repaved to accommodate the 47 new vehicles which are registered during the same period. Every hour, P53,000 is spent to treat pollution-related diseases and to compensate for productivity losses. Every hour, 2,200 metric tons of carbon dioxide is pumped into the air, a carbon footprint which requires the planting of 56,000 trees to absorb all that poison. Every hour, traffic jams in Metro Manila alone cause P16 million in economic losses. Every hour, four Filipinos die from dirty air," said Recto.

Transport for London’s Surface Transport Chief Operating Officer Garrett Emmerson discussed traffic and road management in London, where they are targeting a 60 percent reduction in the City's CO2 emissions by 2025. In 2008, CO2 emissions from ground-based transport were at 9.7m tons.

"In terms of air quality, there are a number of ways of reducing the emissions that come from vehicles," he said. Part of London’s strategy is the Low Emission Zone, which covers 1,580 square kilometers of Greater London, and targets the oldest and most polluting vehicles. They also aim to reduce emissions from London's bus fleet through a number of measures.

Hybrid bus development

Another part of their strategy is the hybrid bus development, which combines diesel engine and electric motor, using regenerative breaking technology. There are 249 hybrid buses currently in service, with a targeted 300 buses by the end of this year. Hybrids deliver a 30 percent reduction in CO2 and a 30 percent reduction in fuel use as compared with regular diesel buses.

There is also a new bus in service that produces less than half the CO2 of diesel buses, making it a third more fuel efficient than the current hybrid buses. Yet another green transport method in London is the hydrogen bus project, which has zero vehicle emissions and plies a single route for up to twenty hours daily.

Retrofitting existing buses

Meanwhile, existing buses are "greened" with retrofitted Diesel Particulate Filters, which ensure that the buses meet Euro IV PM10 standard. On top of this, Selective Catalytic Reduction will reduce NOx emissions by up to 90 percent.

To encourage drivers to switch to Euro 5 compliant vehicles, a 15 year age limit for taxis and 10 years for minicabs was introduced, as London taxis and minicabs contribute around 20 percent of harmful emissions from ground transport in Central London.

In London, electric vehicles are seen to emit 40 percent less CO2 using UK grid mix, with no tailpipe emissions and a rapidly-growing technology attracting investment. According to Emmerson, electric vehicles have the potential to contribute 10-15 thousand jobs and 600 million pounds annually to London's economy by 2025.

A cohesive public network

The goal is to develop a comprehensive public network, so that no Londoner will be more than a mile away from a public charging point. Since May of last year, Source London has 600 charge points are available across London. The points are accessed by a smart card, available to members for 10 pounds.

These measures fall under the mayor's transport strategy, which has three objectives: to improve operational efficiency, to support and enable the development of low carbon vehicles, and to promote carbon efficient mode choice.

Sustainable transport group Arup Associate Director and Engineering Manager Neil Butcher explained in his presentation that the benefits of electric vehicles include a 5dB reduction, with quieter traffic leading to reduced acoustic insulation requirements for buildings.

Barriers to implementation

On the other hand, Butcher listed the following barriers: purchase cost of electric vehicles, availability of recharging points, speed of recharging, and questions on the electric vehicle's green credentials such as the energy required to manufacture batteries, and battery recycling.

"Attitudes are likely to change as electric vehicles become more common," he said. While most consumers see full electric vehicles as less capable, Butcher pointed out that running costs are lower for all electric vehicles.

"It's more about reassurance. People don't necessarily understand the cheaper running costs of electric vehicles," said Butcher, saying that consumers need education to look at whole life costs, not just purchase price. “Focusing on the outcome, on the reduction targets of CO2 is the way to go. Because it centralizes the national government, and the local government, and the private sector,” he said.

“When we talk about electric vehicles, people are often skeptical about the long-term viability. Every new technology is met with skepticism at the time, but over a period of time, the skepticism can be addressed. The project is becoming more viable, its potential more obvious," said British Ambassador Stephen Lillie.

SOURCE: PHL, UK push for green transport - ICSC

[ghosthunter]

continued...

Just the beginning

Ejeepney Transport Corporation chief executive officer Yuri Sarmiento said that eJeepneys are only the beginning, and the EJTC is prepared to help grow green enterprises that are locally sourced and financed. "With electric vehicles, we can tap new revenue streams such as battery leasing operations, electronic ticketing and scaled-up replacement programs aimed at converting public and private fossil-fueled vehicles into environment-friendly transport." Sarmiento noted that support toward the emerging industry is a strategic move, as oil prices will continue to increase. On the other hand, he said the cost of clean technologies will sustain its downward trajectory.

In his reaction speech, ADB Transport Economist Ko Sakamoto said that surprisingly, the UK and the Philippines share a lot of similarities when it comes to the urban transport sector. "Both suffer from acute congestion...air pollution is also very much pressing in both of these countries, energy security is jeopardized because of reliance on fossil fuels," he said, adding that both are taking proactive steps to mitigate climate impacts from the transport sector.

Sakamoto noted that while 1 out of 14 people in the Philippines own a car, it is important to consider the reverse, that 13 out of 14 do not have a car. "We must remember that as we develop strategies in the transport sector...Service-based public transport systems continue to play a very important role in both countries. Perhaps targeting public transport is the right approach," he said.


The power of cultural icons

He also said that icons really matter, such as London's Route Master red bus, which has become a prominent symbol of the capital and eJeepneys resembling the traditional jeepneys of the Philippines. “This is about getting people excited about these low carbon transport issues which otherwise might not appeal to a wider audience," said Sakamoto.

"What we need to do in the transportation sector to improve energy efficiency and reduce the reliance on fossil fuels is to avoid the need for unnecessary travel, shift towards low carbon modes of transport like cycling and walking, and the improvement of energy efficiency, technical efficiency of every type of transport," he added.

Lillie said we can't wait for the political decisions to be reached before we start to tackle climate change. “We have to move right away. This is where development of electric vehicles is crucial,” he said. "You have the opportunity to plan for the future and to plan for sustainable organization. You don't have to replicate what happens when you walk out onto EDSA and you're wrapped in a cloud of suffocating smoke. You have the chance to plan for sustainable transport systems, and that's a very exciting prospect for the Philippines. The Philippines can really lead the way and set an example internationally. And if the UK can be a part of that process, so much the better," said Lillie.

Country's first battery swapping station

After the conference, there was a tour of the first Battery Swapping Station for Makati's eJeepneys. According to ICSC, the roll-off, roll-on process can be done in less than ten minutes. However, the demonstration did not go as smoothly as planned, as the battery pack fell off as it was being transferred. Without too much fuss, the pack was replaced and the swapping process resumed. The organizers admitted that challenges such as this are welcome, and improvements will continually be made. — TJD, GMA News

SOURCE: PHL, UK push for green transport - ICSC

[ghosthunter]

Green light from the start: women drivers and eJeepneys
Thursday, 08 March 2012 08:10



Climate change is not merely about crisis. It provides us an incredible opportunity to reassess the way we look at development. It forces us to rethink strategies and it gives us space to redesign the way our lives are lived.


The electric jeepneys project was conceived by climate change activists not merely as a response to global warming but to present an array of working models that can be scaled up and replicated, and to trigger integrative approaches to development.



For starters, the electric jeepneys form a mere third of the project called Climate-Friendly Cities, which promotes the rechanneling of organic waste streams to waste facilities with biodigesters that promote decomposition, which produces gas that is in turn captured and fed to turbines that power an ever growing electric public utility vehicle fleet. A closed loop. A green loop.

On its own, the electric jeepneys project was also designed to address a bevy of issues. Because it is not enough to produce a smoke-free, noise-free public ride. When we crunched the numbers and crafted the architecture of our social enterprise, we had in mind fleet management models that would create multiple co-benefits:

* Better tourism and better work place conditions for host cities due to reductions in air and noise pollution.

* Higher income for ejeepney operators.

* Energy security, protection from oil price volatility.

* Jobs generation - allied green jobs - in the services (drivers and electric vehicle technicians) and manufacturing industries (for electric vehicles).

* Drivers with regular pay and regular benefits, which means more stability for their families.

* The promise of better traffic conditions, because salaried drivers no longer have any incentive to stop wherever they want to fill up their vehicle or disgorge passengers.

Most importantly, the eJeepneys project deliberately sought out and recruited women drivers.

Everyday should be March 8, international women's day. Easy as this assertion sounds, its practice is far more difficult if initiatives do not build in gender concerns from a project's inception.

Women drivers form the core of iCSC's low emission vehicles agenda, because better technologies, and more efficient and sustainable means of transport, should be gender-neutral. A gender-sensitized project, on the other hand, requires the identification of specific demographics to whom benefits are to be channeled to.

Women remain the most economically, environmentally, socially, politically and culturally vulnerable sector in the Philippines. The eJeepneys project was drawn up in recognition of this facet and the opportunity it presented -- that climate-friendly green social enterprise can be of direct benefit to women, that men do not have any specific attributes that make them more atuned to the steering wheel, or the maintenance of low carbon vehicles.

If the objective is the creation of jobs, women must be at the center of the effort. Women better managers of household income, and it is no stretch to say they can do this even better if they are also in a breadwinner position in the family.

We in iCSC have taken a proactive position on the gender issue in order to demonstrate our robust belief in the lasting changes that the climate crisis can engender. Solutions we craft today in response to climate change can recreate the social space through which our lives are lived.

Climate change provides us an incredible opportunity to drive home the gender equity agenda. It forces us to rethink development strategies that deliberately locate women in the driver's seat.

- Red Constantino, iCSC Executive Director

SOURCE: Green light from the start: women drivers and eJeepneys - ICSC

[uls]

"It's more about reassurance. People don't necessarily understand the cheaper running costs of electric vehicles," said Butcher, saying that consumers need education to look at whole life costs, not just purchase price. “Focusing on the outcome, on the reduction targets of CO2 is the way to go. Because it centralizes the national government, and the local government, and the private sector,” he said.

whole life costs? ok... how much will it cost to replace an electric car's battery pack

will the savings from not having to buy gas or diesel enough to offset the cost of a battery pack?