shuddering problem, pls help

[psycho]

i have a corolla XL 2002. ang problem niya is there are times na during sa pag-release ng clutch at first gear, nanginginig. it's not the usual nginig na kulang sa tapak sa gas. in fact, pag-tinapakan ang gas, it shudders violently. a friend of mine with a corolla GLi naman, ganun din. the problem is intermittent. pag sinusumpong, ang hirap timplahin ng clutch- sobra ang nginig. any idea what causes this?

[umzzzzz]

hmmm...engine support? nagpalit k n? pero bago pa kasi yung oto mo eh...

[StraightSix]

Baka contaminated clutch?

[psycho]

hmmm...engine support? nagpalit k n? pero bago pa kasi yung oto mo eh...

i checked d engine support after i read your post. mukhang ok naman (i think). and ur right. medyo bago pa nga. saka 28t km pa lang.

[psycho]

Baka contaminated clutch?

ano yung "contaminated" clutch? and what is usually done for that kind of problem?

[StraightSix]

ano yung "contaminated" clutch? and what is usually done for that kind of problem?

Huwag naman sana clutch. Contaminant is any foreign material like oil, dirt, etc. getting in. Some areas of the clutch would then be "glazed" resulting in judder when starting off in 1st gear.

Kung yan nga problema, afaik palit ng clutch ang solusyon diyan, or (not really recommended) sunog ng konti sa clutch.

[jagxtrm]

baka sira na ang pressure plate ...

lagi bang overloaded yng corolla mo (4 or 5 passengers or equivalent baggage load) ??

try this to test ur pressure plate...

- park ur car (with at least 5 meters distance sa harap)
- secure the hand brake (yng highest na kaya mo)
- start the engine & lagay mo sa 5th gear
- slowly release the clutch and your right foor naman sa gas (para hindi mamatay ang engine). keep the rpm between 1,000 to 1,500. do this only for a maximum of 30 secs!

kng nag shake kagaya ng sinabi mo -- pressure plate yan

kng parang umakyat naman yng rpm kahit halos released ka na sa clutch -- may clutch slippage ka na, it is time to replace ur clutch

[ian_rex]

nabaha ka ba or something? i've got the same problem before. nagpalit kami ng clutch, pressure plate, saka pilot bearing.

[finchy18]

baka sira na ang pressure plate ...

lagi bang overloaded yng corolla mo (4 or 5 passengers or equivalent baggage load) ??

try this to test ur pressure plate...

- park ur car (with at least 5 meters distance sa harap)
- secure the hand brake (yng highest na kaya mo)
- start the engine & lagay mo sa 5th gear
- slowly release the clutch and your right foor naman sa gas (para hindi mamatay ang engine). keep the rpm between 1,000 to 1,500. do this only for a maximum of 30 secs!

kng nag shake kagaya ng sinabi mo -- pressure plate yan

kng parang umakyat naman yng rpm kahit halos released ka na sa clutch -- may clutch slippage ka na, it is time to replace ur clutch

tanong lng po sir sa brilliant idea mo.. kahit bah sa ibang manual cars pwde mag try nito?

[jagxtrm]

tanong lng po sir sa brilliant idea mo.. kahit bah sa ibang manual cars pwde mag try nito?

yup. any M/T cars pwede gawin yang test na yan ...

wag mo lng gawing 'frequent' yng testing, or else u will do more damage sa clutch mo.


pwede rin naman gawin yang test na yan pag paakyat ka ng flyover. pag nasa 20-30 degree incline ka na, mag full stop ka tapos try mo i-release yng clutch habang nasa 1,000 to 1,500 rpm lng yng engine mo, cyempre wag mo na i-engage yng handbrake.

of course, wag mo gagawin yang flyover test pag ma-traffic, bka puro ingay ng busina marinig mo ...

o kaya marinig mo naman yng famous "Filipino Greeting" galing sa ibang drivers ... hehehe

[psycho]

Thanks sa comments, ngayon ko lang nabasa yung iba.

Kagagaling ko lang sa Toyota Otis kanina and ang bilis ng sagot nila "Kelangan ibaba ang clutch ninyo." "Sliding clutch" daw saka "Dragging" (yun yung tawag nila sa nanginginig pag release ng clutch). Parang sanay na sila sa ganung complaint. Ito ang quotation na binigay sa akin:

Clutch disc 2,718.75
Pressure plate 3,155.46
Release bearing 1,158.39
Transaxle Oil 819.28
Rear Crankshaft -??- 1,436.57

Labor (incl. refacing
of flywheel) 4,235.00
----------
13,523.45 + VAT = 14,875.80!!

Any comments? Sulit ba na sa Toyota ko ipagawa?

[woulfe27]

kayang kaya ng ordinary shops yan, clutch lang pala e. yung ae92 and ae101 ko sa ordinary talyer lang, ok naman. dalhin mo ke speedyfix para makamura ka.

mas ok kung orig yung clutch disc and pressure plate. di baleng mas mahal kesa replacement parts. yung bearing, pwede na replacement dyan (P650 yata). napakamahal naman ng gear oil nyan. P800+?

ano kelangan gawin sa crankshaft mo? palit oil seals?

[falken]

Tama si woulfe27, di na kailangang ipagawa sa casa ang clutch problems.

[ian_rex]

Thanks sa comments, ngayon ko lang nabasa yung iba.

Kagagaling ko lang sa Toyota Otis kanina and ang bilis ng sagot nila "Kelangan ibaba ang clutch ninyo." "Sliding clutch" daw saka "Dragging" (yun yung tawag nila sa nanginginig pag release ng clutch). Parang sanay na sila sa ganung complaint. Ito ang quotation na binigay sa akin:

Clutch disc 2,718.75
Pressure plate 3,155.46
Release bearing 1,158.39
Transaxle Oil 819.28
Rear Crankshaft -??- 1,436.57

Labor (incl. refacing
of flywheel) 4,235.00
----------
13,523.45 + VAT = 14,875.80!!

Any comments? Sulit ba na sa Toyota ko ipagawa?

sir hanap ka na lang ng reputable shop. mahal sa casa. but if you want, you can simply buy the parts sa casa then bring it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic.

[trackers888]

i have a corolla XL 2002. ang problem niya is there are times na during sa pag-release ng clutch at first gear, nanginginig. it's not the usual nginig na kulang sa tapak sa gas. in fact, pag-tinapakan ang gas, it shudders violently. a friend of mine with a corolla GLi naman, ganun din. the problem is intermittent. pag sinusumpong, ang hirap timplahin ng clutch- sobra ang nginig. any idea what causes this?

Brother, hindi kaya ginagawa mong submarino ang car mo? Madalas na pagkababad sa tubig baha and dahilan ng pagkasira ng clutch system? 14k for clutch replair? grabe pala!?

[psycho]

Brother, hindi kaya ginagawa mong submarino ang car mo? Madalas na pagkababad sa tubig baha and dahilan ng pagkasira ng clutch system? 14k for clutch replair? grabe pala!?

Second hand kasi. Di ko alam kung ano driving habits nitong unang may-ari.

[mazdamazda]

if you want... kay speedyfix in san juan (in front of wheel gallery).

[psycho]

Ok. Nag-canvass ako ng price ng mga parts. Actually nag-random check lang ako sa yellow pages.

Part--------------Original-----------Original------------Replacement
------------------(casa)-----------(auto supply)-------(Japan kuno)

Clutch disc --------2,718.73---------2,800--------------1,300
Pressure plate------3,155.46---------2,900--------------1,600
Rel. bearing--------1,158.39---------1,300----------------750
Rear crankshaft
oil seal------------ 1,436.57---------1,400----------------450
Transaxl oil seal----- 819.28----------none----------------350

[psycho]

if you want... kay speedyfix in san juan (in front of wheel gallery).

taga san juan ako. yan ba yung sa malapit sa intersection ng ortigas-santolan?

[falken]

taga san juan ako. yan ba yung sa malapit sa intersection ng ortigas-santolan?

Yup, malapit sila sa junk shop.