Project Car?

[IGX]

If you guys had 300Thou as budget, what project car would you setup, for use in Drag Racing, RWYB and will be used as a daily driver.

Turbocharged/NA. Aiming 14.00 seconds e/t in 1/4 mile.

Thanks in advance guys... :D

[IGX]

Pahabol. I'm eyeing on 95 to 97 Cars only... :mrgreen:

[Bossing]

kung 300t car and the setup ull have a hard time kung 95-97 cars. the best car for ur budget is an eg honda you could get it for less than 2h then spend the remaining 1h sa engine, suspension, paint, and mags.

[1.8T]

Pahabol. I'm eyeing on 95 to 97 Cars only... :mrgreen:

95-97 with P300,000 budget?. medyo mahirap yata yun. pero tulad nung sa taas eg honda, kaya lang kapos yung remaining 100K mo for mods.
type ko old school starlet, tapos mod mo all motor.

[Tifosi]

I agree with 1.8T, mas trip ko mga old school gawin na project cars. I'd rather get an old school corolla, tapos ibubuhos ko majority ng budget ko sa engine mods. Sleeper type the best! 8)

[vinj]

If you plan to use it for RWYB, you'll have aq lot of choices but it will also depend on the bracket that you're aiming at (A, B, C or D).

Kung '95-'97 car for RWYB, i'd suggest you just do the basic bolt-ons (I/H/E) for the engine then you work on your suspension and brake set-up.

Obviously, the Civic will have the most choices available for parts, followed by the Corolla and Lancer. YOu can find the '95-'97 Sentra 1.6L in the 200K to 240K price range but you'll be doing more searching and researching for the available speed and handling parts... but it'll be worth it on the track ;)

In addition, i think you'll be able to squeeze more out your budget if you aim to compete competitively in a RWYB bracket then achieving a 14sec ET in drag. In drag you'll really be working a lot on the engine but in RWYB, even a slightly modded engine and a good suspension and tire set-up , added to some racing lessons and practice, will already be good enough to make you competitive (heck you could even compete your car in stock form).

My two cents...

[RS Sprint]

Corolla or Lancer ok oara maiba naman.

Tama si vinj. Drag ibang set-up, simple lang. Most powerful engine you can make, lightest possible car, stiffest possible suspension and a good clutch.

RWYB / circuit use dapat comprehensive set-up mo. Maganda ang feel ng oto, progressive at the limit tapos wear-resistant ang mga parts.

You'll spend more initially setting the car up for circuit, pero mas masaya and the car will be a pleasure to drive on the street compared to a drag car.

[IGX]

guys salamat, d ko kasi taste ang old school. medyo pag oldschool kasi d na sleeper dahil alam na ng mga tao na malalakas ang old school.

kailangan ko kasi at least lancer or corolla, good for daily driving at good for at least 4 passengers.

assuming mga 200k ang value ng kotse, 96 lancer or 96 corolla gli (kaya ba?), pwede na ba yung 100k for either an engine swap or turbo?

[wildthing]

Baka kulangin pa yan (100k) sir kasi sabi ng Autoxer dati on one of his post...you could easily reach 100K sa turbo addon pa lang....kung engine swap na me turbo na, palagay ko swerte na kung makabili ka sa 60-75K range ng walang bukasan (o aayusin pa sa loob ng engine).

E ang tamang clutch na pang racing (mahal din eto). Useless ang engine mods mo kung clutch and tranny mo ay hindi kaya ang power mo. Idudulas lang nito...sayang.

Tapos dahil malakas at mabilis na ang sleeper mo, ang pinakaimportante ay ang brake upgrades mo na kailangan and a matching wheels that could give good handling as well as stopping power

....in other words sir magbudget ka ng 300K sa mods para sigurado ka....so mga 500K total so do a better job.

Huwag mong tipidin lalo na sa brakes (unless you don't value your life or the life ng maaari mong mabangga).

my 2 cents. peace.

[IGX]

ang mahal na pala magsetup ngayon, dati kasi nagsetup kami ng utol ko ng 92 lancer gti with 4g63t, e mga 100k yung gastos sa engine, brakes, clutch, tranny.

meron bang ibang alternative?

pano kung 350k ang budget?

[RS Sprint]

Ewan ko sa cost ng oto, bahala ka na. Pero this is what I remember sa modding Lancers medyo budget pero very good on the track and on the road parin.

1.) Engine swap with install labor - 70,000
* complete engine (engine, harness, ECU)

2.) Suspension mods - 50,000
* new gas shocks
* lowering springs
* front and rear strut-bars

3.) Brakes - 12,000
* surplus Mitsubishi front twin-piston calipers and 11 inch discs

These are the basic stuff for your RWYB / fun-car. Plus, you will have to spend on the ff pa:

1.) Really good bucket seats, even the reclinable ones, they make a HUGE difference on the track.

2.) Race grade fluids like gear oil, DOT 4 or better brake fluid, and fully synthetic engine oil

3.) Sport spec or better wear and tear parts like tires, brake pads, clutch

You might also want to invest in stuff like a good shift knob and steering wheel, a good pedal set(for easier heel-toe and double declutches, they realy help!), auxiliary gauges for oil temp, oil press and water temp, a shift light (ricey, but really helpful on the track). All these aim to help driver-to-car interface.

Tapos syempre good driving shoes, good gloves....... Ok ok the list goes on. ;)

[vinj]

It's quite addicting IMO. :D

For 200K, you'll probably be able to find '92-'94 Corollas. They go for way over 200K for the later model AE101 IMO. If you're on a budget, go for the XE model then you can sawp t oa 4AGE/4AGZE engine.

Kung sa Nissan, you can get a '96-'98 B13 Sentra LEC for around 130-170K. Then you swap in an SR20 engine from a front-cut JDM Pulsar (the brakes and suspension fit in as well if i'm not mistaken). The downside with engine swapping in a Nissan is that it's not a common thing so it'll take some time, trial, and error... and probably cost more, but the results will be quite good IMO :D

However, the word "project car" doesnt mean a one time big time thing though. This would see you working on the car for the next 2 to 3 years down. If that is the case, research and search for a good 1600 sedan (i.e. Sentra, Civic, Lancer, Corolla) to work on then make a list of your priorities for the mods. I'd suggest that you work on your suspension and brakes before moving on to the big-HP mods from a turbo or engine swap. With the suspension mods, some light engine mods, and good brakes, you'll already be competitive in bracket C or D of RWYB.

[IGX]

RS Sprint,

laki pala ng magagastos, mukhang mahirap ata maginvest ng hobby car. lalo na kung pangcircuit. ano nga pala yung 70,000.00 na engine?

mukhang mahirap makasetup ng good and fast car for under 350k.

siguro ipon pa ulit ng isang taon.

Vinj,

Have you heard of people swapping an SR20DET on a Senta, balita ko kasi lagi daw napuputol ang axle. Anong model ba yung B13? is this the big ones already.

I really would like to build up a good car, kaya choice ko is a 96 up model para i could work on it for a few years.

[lantraluvr]

I would suggest getting an Elantra as a project car, but you would have to get performance parts from abroad. Last time I've checked, a used Elantra costs around PHP 150K. That gives you PHP 200K to play with. If I have that kind of money, I would source a 2.0 Beta engine, race coilovers, and other tasteful mods in Korea, then pay the government for the importing tax stuff whatchamacallit. Now you got a sleeper car.

[IGX]

lantraluvr,

can you give me more info about the elantra and what is the specs of the 2.0 beta engine? are you running this setup?

how is the ride comfort of an elantra?

thanks

[vinj]

I have not heard of the broken axle problem on the local swaps (well since not much are done so i cant keep tab on them) but i know that they have to fabricate new driveshafts for the car. With the SR20DET's, one common problem was that the stock tranny couldnt take the big HP gains...

The B13 is the Series 2 body (1991-95 supersaloon, and 95-99 LEC)

One of the members in Nissanbayan swapped in an SR20DET to his Sentra but i have not heard from him lately. His main problem was getting the engine together and running as he didnt get a complete engine and the guy who did the swap was in the dark on how to do it for he wasnt familiar with the SR20 swap... it's best talaga to get an engine that is as complete as possible and do some research. From what i heard, the B13 is one of teh better cars to use for a SR20 swap from the JDM N14 Pulsar since they are similar vehicles. Their suspension and brakes are also swappable as well if i remember it right

[IGX]

thanks vinj, i guess it will be hard going with the sr20det swap as a project car, i don't want to go into big problems on my project. since i really want a very reliable car.

i did see a guy have a sr20 swapped into his series 2, his series 2 is blue and has jap plates, we are both customers of this shop in evangelista.

i think i'll just lay more on a lancer or corolla then.

[vinj]

Yep, i think the Corolla is a good choice... Easy parts and good engine choices.

[IGX]

vinj,

any suggestions on how to setup the corolla? preferrably an ae101

[lantraluvr]

lantraluvr,

can you give me more info about the elantra and what is the specs of the 2.0 beta engine? are you running this setup?

how is the ride comfort of an elantra?

thanks

What do you wanna know about the Elantra? It is the sublime sister of the Tiburon/Coupe, but with 4 doors. The 2.0 Beta, hmmm... It is not a Mitsu motor. But it is responsive to boost. I can't find the engine so no, I'm not running it (yet).

Ride is nice and sporty. But beware, the Elantra is lower than your average sedan. So you must be careful w/ higher-than-average speedbumps.