Another AT problem

[Galactus]

Peeps

I've searched the forums, wala kasing identical problem as mine, kaya I created a new thread

Nagfa-flash yung D4 indicator ng Accord ko, (97 VTi-S), indicating a problem sa AT. Napansin ko nga na pag D4 or D3, mahina hatak coming from a full stop. As in mataas na yung rev, pero mabagal pa rin takbo. After a while though, ok na sya. Yung 1 & 2, ok din, wala naman problema. So normally, from P, I shift agad to 2 para maganda ang atak, then shift to D4.

I changed my ATF, thinking that was the problem, pero ganun pa din. Ok naman amoy ng ATF, di naman amoy sunog.

I hate to think na bibili na ako ng surplus, kasi 23,500 ang quote ko from Ultimate Surplus, kasama labor.

Ano kaya problema?

[orly_andico]

go to the casa and have them download the OBD codes. that would probably take out a lot of guesswork.

[ghosthunter]

Although I don't want to guess, it sounds like the tranny is getting ready to give up.

[bardigones]

how about trying an ATF dialysis? just search for it in the forums.

[ronald_m]

Have it scan,Also sign of clutch slipping.

[orly_andico]

err, clutch slipping?

it's an AUTO tranny. it has no clutch.

i would also go with GH's theory. a car that age with an auto-tranny.. i think it's possible to overhaul these things. what usually gives in an auto tranny? the planetary gearset or the torque converter? or the solenoids for shifting gears?

that's a pretty damn expensive surplus tranny. someone quoted me a Mazda KL-01 engine (2.5L V6) and auto-tranny for 30k. no labor yet, but that's for both the engine and the tranny.

[ronald_m]

err, clutch slipping?

Technically it has a clutch inside the planetary system
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Good catch.Time to go to bed.

[niky]

I've driven a 96 Accord with a similar problem... very interesting drive in traffic, as I couldn't go over 60 km/h, and it was guzzling gas like crazy. That's an expensive fix.

If you're revving hard but not going anywhere... parang di na nag-lo-lock ang torque converter? Weird problem, bro.

Okay, just talked to the owner of the Accord, in his case, it was broken linkages, and they had to replace the transmission, cost him only 15k last year... you should definitely shop around for prices.

His observation is: it sounds like your ATF pump isn't working. That's why it only happens when the transmission is cold or coming from a stop. You could have a mechanic check that first.

If the advice is wrong, it's not my fault...

[Galactus]

Thanks sa mga replies.

Hmmm, mahal pa pala yung 20k for a surplus AT. Early last year kasi, when I accompanied a friend sa Banawe, ang going rate for a surplus AT was around 23k. Wala kaming nakita below 20k. Good to know na malaki na yung bagsak presyo. Or maybe because ang dating namin eh ignorante, hehe, kaya balak nilang tumaga

I'm sincerely hoping na I dont have to buy a surplus. Sana ATF pump or solenoid lang or whatever. So far, ok pa naman ang takbo, my main problem is pag may mga inclined roads (sa mall parking) and coming from a full stop. Talagang di kaya umakyat pag D3/D4. I have to shift pa to 2 or 1. But on flat roads, "2" muna ako, then pag naka 40kmh na ako, shift to D4, ok ang takbo, I can reach 100kmh easily.

[niky]

It really helps kasi kung may "ka-sosyo" ka. But then again, with current inflation, 20k might not be far off as a realistic price.

Good luck!

[mazdamazda]

Pansin ko lang... old Honda ATs are a bit problematic. from the Civic to the Accord.

[theveed]

Hmm, madalas masira ang VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) ng AT ng Accord, baka yun yun?

[orly_andico]

di ba kung sira yung VSS the speedo won't work anymore?

[Galactus]

Hmm, madalas masira ang VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) ng AT ng Accord, baka yun yun?

Hmmm...sana nga yun, para cheap fix. But since I bought the car last Dec 2005, it never malfunctioned.

Medyo doubtful din kasi ako na AT yung problema, kasi ok naman hatak ng "1" & "2", walang problema. Also, ok din D3/D4 at medium speeds. Its just that parang ayaw nyang umarangkada coming from P or full stop, imagine trying to drive a car from stop with the 3rd gear engaged, minus the nginig na sobra. Kaya I have to shift down to 2 from P, then shift again to D4. Which defeats the purpose of having an AT.

[theveed]

di ba kung sira yung VSS the speedo won't work anymore?

sa officemate ko gumagana padin

[speedyfix]

di pa ata obd yan 97 na accord pero it might be better to get a 2nd opinion before doing anything big like getting the tranny.

[orly_andico]

*speedyfix,
circa 1992 DSM ECU's were already OBD-I. so at the very least i am guessing na OBD-I yung 97 na accord, most likely OBD-II na nga yan..

at the very least the casa would have the device to connect to the ECU (the Special Purpose Tool)

ang alam ko si Zee (in Aurora ha.. not Cruven) has a universal OBD reader. might be cheaper to have them check than the casa. alam ko 1000 ang OBD reading sa casa eh. i could be wrong though.

[chris_d]

Nung nasira VSS ko yung speedo minsan gumagana, minsan nde. Pero nde nagkaproblem yung pag shift ng gears, it reset to a failsafe mode.

Natry mo na mag reset ng ECU?

[ineedmorehp]

Pansin ko lang... old Honda ATs are a bit problematic. from the Civic to the Accord.

Wag naman sna...
lemon lang un na nahinog na...
bka magpalit ako ng makina. hehehe...

[ronald_m]

*speedyfix,
circa 1992 DSM ECU's were already OBD-I. so at the very least i am guessing na OBD-I yung 97 na accord, most likely OBD-II na nga yan..

at the very least the casa would have the device to connect to the ECU (the Special Purpose Tool)

ang alam ko si Zee (in Aurora ha.. not Cruven) has a universal OBD reader. might be cheaper to have them check than the casa. alam ko 1000 ang OBD reading sa casa eh. i could be wrong though.

all 96' up are all OBDII compliant.Mahal pala mag pascan dyan.You can buy a OBDII universal scanner for only $120 dollars.