VinFast VF 3

[Vodka]

launching today! lots of quirks though

-one airbag only

-no hood release lever. you need to unbolt the hood to open it

-rear seat not split fold

-you don't twist the key to start, but you need to insert the fob into a slot to start the car i.e. you can't leave it inside your pocket

-wiper stalk is transmission selector instead. button at the tip is EPB (yeah it has epb when cable brakes would've been cheaper). wiper functions are integrated into the left stalk

one more thing... no spare tire

[Motortrend]

It's actually wider than most people think ...

But every little bit helps. Classic American cars were able to do away with center consoles and have front bench seats because of the wiper stalk style shifters.

[LOLZ]

But every little bit helps. Classic American cars were able to do away with center consoles and have front bench seats because of the wiper stalk style shifters.

Imo putting the shifter within the dashboard area(Ala Hiace) seems to be a better play here given how bare the VF3's dashboard is. They could opt for the Push button/volume knob style shifter if are really pressed for space.

[dr. d]

It's actually wider than most people think ...

1679 mm.
my 1997 sentra was 1695 mm wide.
whether it will feel tight or wide... will probably depend significantly on the seat design.

[Walter]

Actually, it depends how thin the door panels are ...

[dr. d]

Actually, it depends how thin the door panels are ...

well,
i kinda determine tightness by the literal seat of my pants.
if i'm comfortable in the seat, the manibela and pidal are light, and the aircon is good, i can be a very forgiving guy.

[Motortrend]

Imo putting the shifter within the dashboard area(Ala Hiace) seems to be a better play here given how bare the VF3's dashboard is. They could opt for the Push button/volume knob style shifter if are really pressed for space.

Yes, that would have been a better design choice.

[LOLZ]

1679 mm.
my 1997 sentra was 1695 mm wide.
whether it will feel tight or wide... will probably depend significantly on the seat design.

It's wider than the previous gen Avanza and both generations of the wigo (the 1st gen by almost three inches)

[Vodka]

more quirks!

AA/carplay isn't working yet. "available in future sw update"

19.3 seconds to reach 100kph

[Motortrend]

Actually, it depends how thin the door panels are ...

That's actually a big factor in determining interior space or lack thereof.

[Motortrend]

more quirks!

AA/carplay isn't working yet. "available in future sw update"

19.3 seconds to reach 100kph

Glacial pace.

[carxynogen]

one more thing... no spare tire

Naku sayang, big deal sa akin yung spare tire.
Eto kasi main purpose niya.

[ice15]

more quirks!

AA/carplay isn't working yet. "available in future sw update"

19.3 seconds to reach 100kph

wow... this is so dangerous sa highway.

pero I'm more interested sa 0-60 nya for local city roads use. based on experience with entry level sub-compact cars, mahirap talaga yung 60-80-100 nila.

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sa totoo lang. I find it annoying na may displacement requirement and motorcycles to use local toll roads pero sa cars wala. IMO, 1L (naturally aspirated) and below should not be allowed to use the highways din kasi their acceleration is not fast enough.

[Vodka]

wow... this is so dangerous sa highway.

pero I'm more interested sa 0-60 nya for local city roads use. based on experience with entry level sub-compact cars, mahirap talaga yung 60-80-100 nila.

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here's the acceleration curve of the EV that i've been developing, optimized for low-speed so the acceleration really drops off at around 50kph and up. but it'll lift the front wheel at full throttle from a stop

maybe the vf3 is like this too. it's 5.3 seconds to 50kph btw

[LOLZ]

wow... this is so dangerous sa highway.

pero I'm more interested sa 0-60 nya for local city roads use. based on experience with entry level sub-compact cars, mahirap talaga yung 60-80-100 nila.

***

sa totoo lang. I find it annoying na may displacement requirement and motorcycles to use local toll roads pero sa cars wala. IMO, 1L (naturally aspirated) and below should not be allowed to use the highways din kasi their acceleration is not fast enough.

I believe the motorcycle requirement is for stability reasons rather than acceleration besides the ~1.0L 4-wheelers are probably still faster to 100 than the fully laden L300s, Trailer trucks and UVs. A Higher minimum speed in the outermost lanes is probably more achievable.

[ice15]

I believe the motorcycle requirement is for stability reasons rather than acceleration besides the ~1.0L 4-wheelers are probably still faster to 100 than the fully laden L300s, Trailer trucks and UVs. A Higher minimum speed in the outermost lanes is probably more achievable.

then why are we the only country that has the 400cc requirement? even CCLEX allows 125cc bikes

if smaller bikes are so dangerous, why do we allow them on non-toll highways?

modern motorcycles (even scooters) can maintain 60-80km/h easily and their acceleration is way better

as a driver myself, I find it more dangerous to drive small displacement cars in the highway as their engines does not give you room for any errors especially when overtaking.

[ice15]

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[dr. d]

sa totoo lang. I find it annoying na may displacement requirement and motorcycles to use local toll roads pero sa cars wala. IMO, 1L (naturally aspirated) and below should not be allowed to use the highways din kasi their acceleration is not fast enough.

i once heard a live interview over the radio, wherein the authority figure was asked why they set 400 cc displacement for bikes as requirement for slex-legal.
his answer, "we just pulled that figure out from the air."

i have a wigo with 998 cc displacement. i drive it on slex on a regular basis. as long as we do not drive like schumi, ok naman ang acceleration. it holds its own.

[Motortrend]

i once heard a live interview over the radio, wherein the authority figure was asked why they set 400 cc displacement for bikes as requirement for slex-legal.
his answer, "we just pulled that figure out from the air."

i have a wigo with 998 cc displacement. i drive it on slex on a regular basis. as long as we do not drive like schumi, ok naman ang acceleration. it holds its own.

Based on this article, I don't think the 400cc figure was pulled out of the air. It was deliberate.

The 4cc Highway Dilemma Pt.1 | MotoDeal

[dr. d]

Based on this article, I don't think the 400cc figure was pulled out of the air. It was deliberate.

The 4cc Highway Dilemma Pt.1 | MotoDeal

nice article.
i did not know that rocky fella had something to do with it.
it narrates the story why motorcycles were banned from the expressway.
but your quoted article did not state why they dictated 400 cc as the minimum engine size.
why not 250 cc, 395 cc, 399 cc, 500 cc, 660 cc, 1200 cc...?