VinFast VF 3

[Motortrend]

And the original Beetle engine only had a max 40Hp and 88Nm. And there are still a few Beetles and Kombis running in Baguio. Di naman siguro nilagay sa paleta at sinakay sa eroplano ang mga yun. Even the cheap EVs being reviewed ang primary comment, iba yung acceleration dahil sa torque.

But the original Beetle's weight was around 1,500 lbs? What about the VinFas VF 3? Around 2,500 lbs?

[Vodka]

electric horses are very different from gasoline horses

i've test driven the jetour ice cream which is a similar car. definitely not fast but perfectly adequate. and zero to 50kph is actually pretty decent. felt less peppy than a nissan kicks epower. a lot less peppy than byd dolphin.

[Vodka]

launching today! lots of quirks though

-one airbag only

-no hood release lever. you need to unbolt the hood to open it

-rear seat not split fold

-you don't twist the key to start, but you need to insert the fob into a slot to start the car i.e. you can't leave it inside your pocket

-wiper stalk is transmission selector instead. button at the tip is EPB (yeah it has epb when cable brakes would've been cheaper). wiper functions are integrated into the left stalk

[Vodka]

on VF vietnam website vf5 non-lease is 548,000,000 dongs, while vf3 non-lease is 322,000,000

vf5 ph non-lease price is 1191,000 (currently discounted to 1042,000)

so... (1191/548000) * 322000 = approx 700k pesos

if we substitute vf5 discounted price: (1042/548000)*322000 = 612k pesos


so based on vf5 ph pricing the vf3 non-lease should be 700k

carguide . ph:

The VinFast VF 3 is now available at a special introductory price of PHP 605,000 (with a battery subscription). For those who prefer to have the battery included, the price goes up to PHP 705,000. After the special period, the suggested retail price will revert to PHP 645,000 (battery subscription) and PHP 745,000 (battery included). Moreover, from Sept 14 - 30, early customers will only need to shell out an extra PHP 40,000 to customize their car's paint beyond the available nine colors.

so i was only off by 5k

[ice15]

this is scary... I hope there's a system that will not allow you to shift to Reverse while the car is moving forward.

[LOLZ]

launching today! lots of quirks though

-wiper stalk is transmission selector instead. button at the tip is EPB (yeah it has epb when cable brakes would've been cheaper). wiper functions are integrated into the left stalk

While EPB and wiper stalk style AT shifters aren't new (Mercedes E-class had that style of shifter since 2014) having the park gear position and the EPB share the same button is very weird.



They either saved more money/production time in consolidating switchgear than sticking to cable hand brakes or the VF3 has no parking pawl/Park Gear and they are using the EPB to emulate the function

[Verbl Kint]

"Limited special offer" is supposedly until Sept. 30 only. SRP's post that date will be ₱645,000 for the battery subscription model and ₱745,000 with the battery included.

Warranties
• Bumper-to-bumper: 7 years / 160,000 km
• Battery warranty: 8 years / unlimited mileage
• Subscription plan: free maintenance / battery replacement if the battery capacity drops below 70 percent


Battery lease cost
• Less than 1,500 km per month: ₱2,800 monthly
• 1,500 to 2,500 km per month: ₱3,800 monthly
• More than 2,500 km per month: ₱6,300 monthly




Note: so far, the PH is the only country outside Vietnam to have the VF3 but Vinfast is planning to release it to more countries in 2025.

[Walter]

Battery lease pricing is weird ... who would get this if ROI for purchasing a battery compared to leasing is just 3 years ... are they expecting the battery to fail by then? ... this would be an alternative to a golf cart for going around subdivision ...

[Vodka]

While EPB and wiper stalk style AT shifters aren't new (Mercedes E-class had that style of shifter since 2014) having the park gear position and the EPB share the same button is very weird.


They either saved more money/production time in consolidating switchgear than sticking to cable hand brakes or the VF3 has no parking pawl/Park Gear and they are using the EPB to emulate the function

that explanation makes sense. i don't think there's a parking pawl in there so they got to have the parking brake activate automatically i.e. can't rely on the user to activate cable brake

this is scary... I hope there's a system that will not allow you to shift to Reverse while the car is moving forward.

yeah i'm sure there's a few lines of code that prevents that. it's all software anyway i.e. the shifter is a just a switch and the EV drivetrain doesn't have a physical reverse gear

[Motortrend]

While EPB and wiper stalk style AT shifters aren't new (Mercedes E-class had that style of shifter since 2014) having the park gear position and the EPB share the same button is very weird.



They either saved more money/production time in consolidating switchgear than sticking to cable hand brakes or the VF3 has no parking pawl/Park Gear and they are using the EPB to emulate the function

Most likely to save space up front because the car is narrow.

[ale828]

Battery lease pricing is weird ... who would get this if ROI for purchasing a battery compared to leasing is just 3 years ... are they expecting the battery to fail by then? ... this would be an alternative to a golf cart for going around subdivision ...

i think it was meant for people who fear battery degradation or battery fail in a EV.
The lease would mean they wouldn't have to worry about the battery failing since it will be automatically replaced with no cost.

its like an insurance for the battery.

[carxynogen]

In isuzu mux (not sure sa new gen), that button at the tip of wiper stalk is the selector or reset button sa mga figures sa dashboard (trip A/B, fuel consumption figures, time from when the engine start, etc).

I think OK lang if pang on/off lang ng EPB to.

[Walter]

Most likely to save space up front because the car is narrow.

It's actually wider than most people think ...

[ice15]

While EPB and wiper stalk style AT shifters aren't new (Mercedes E-class had that style of shifter since 2014) having the park gear position and the EPB share the same button is very weird.



They either saved more money/production time in consolidating switchgear than sticking to cable hand brakes or the VF3 has no parking pawl/Park Gear and they are using the EPB to emulate the function

concern ko is kung biglang umambon... halos automatic na wiper yung controls sa right side.

[Vodka]

It's actually wider than most people think ...

yeah it's wider than my jimny

most of these cars like the wuling mini have the drive-neutral-reverse knob in the center between the seats

[Yatta]

concern ko is kung biglang umambon... halos automatic na wiper yung controls sa right side.

Masasanay ka naman. It took me a week para masanay sa twist-gear sa steering column ng Santa Fe.

[carxynogen]

The gear selector location is not ideal for me.
Sometimes while in driving, ma inadvertently switch ko tong wiper pataas or pababa.
Since the functions are R and D, medyo delikado para sa akin.

Example, while on stationary while preparing for some things inside the driver position.
I sometimes push up or down the wiper stalk.
If etong car yun, baka mag ala SUA ang sasakyan.
Unless if the car won't run if the accelerator is not pressed.

Also, ano mangyari if while on running, you accidentally switch to R?
I know in AT may gumawa na nito, wala namang effect sa car when in running.
But makapag-isip ka na baka may negative effect na sa inside ng AT transmission.

Forgive me for my ignorance since I haven't driven luxury car yet (Mercedez, BMW, etc.).

[ice15]

The gear selector location is not ideal for me.
Sometimes while in driving, ma inadvertently switch ko tong wiper pataas or pababa.
Since the functions are R and D, medyo delikado para sa akin.

same issue for me.

when driving a Japanese car sa left side of the road (mostly Singapore, Malaysia and Japan), palagi akong nagkakamali sa signal light and wiper. kaya I always rent a European car para nasa left pa din sa atin yung location ng signal and wiper switches. -> now I'm confused nanaman kung napag-baliktad ko. hahaha

Also, ano mangyari if while on running, you accidentally switch to R?
I know in AT may gumawa na nito, wala namang effect sa car when in running.

Nissan Bluebird U12 ng ex ko nung college. it was my first time driving an Automatic car... accidentally nasipa yung gear sa R while travelling sa Espana... the engine automatically turned off. halos tumigil heart beat namin kasi the car was like cruising in Neutral lang... then may stories noon na bawal itulak ang AT kaya we had to wait for it to stop before trying to start it again... nag start naman and naka-uwi kami. pero really memorable

[carxynogen]

that explanation makes sense. i don't think there's a parking pawl in there so they got to have the parking brake activate automatically i.e. can't rely on the user to activate cable brake





yeah i'm sure there's a few lines of code that prevents that. it's all software anyway i.e. the shifter is a just a switch and the EV drivetrain doesn't have a physical reverse gear

If it is just a software only mechanism, once that EPB HW button fails, hello tirik in the middle of Highway.
No choice but to call CASA for the rescue, since no one is knowledgeable enough aside from CASA to reset the EPB.

Similar scenario dun sa Montero na tumirik in the middle of roadtrip due to stuck up EPB.
Good thing sa Montero is marami ng alam on how to fix it/release EPB.
Kaya siya i fix from the EPB motor itself.
But incase of VF3, are they willing to handover the mechanism (SW or HW means) on how to release the Parking Brake?

[Vodka]

If it is just a software only mechanism, once that EPB HW button fails, hello tirik in the middle of Highway.
No choice but to call CASA for the rescue, since no one is knowledgeable enough aside from CASA to reset the EPB.

Similar scenario dun sa Montero na tumirik in the middle of roadtrip due to stuck up EPB.
Good thing sa Montero is marami ng alam on how to fix it/release EPB.
Kaya siya i fix from the EPB motor itself.
But incase of VF3, are they willing to handover the mechanism (SW or HW means) on how to release the Parking Brake?

yeah i'm not a fan of those things but probably just a 2-terminal epb that could be released w/ a small battery