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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    I am suspecting the same na may problem na yung transmission talaga kahit napalitan na ATF.

    Nagtataka din ako dun sa sinabi na the car shuts off before while on an incline. But now, after ATF change wala na. If walang ibang fluid change na ginawa other than ATF, then would that imply the transmission was badly fluid starved kaya on an incline when fluid will rest on one side only, the transmission becomes dry. Don't know if the Xtrail has some sort of sensor that detect fluid starvation then shuts off engine automatically though.

    Like yung sa 2004 Xtrail 2.0 ng brother ko, although "maintained" naman, basically nawawala na 4th gear. Or hindi na nakakagat ng transmission kaya top gear niya is only til 3rd gear. presently. But since exclusively city driving na lang dahil luma na, hindi na pinaayos. Wala din error lumabas sa scan nung chineck.
    in my years of owning a car.. lalo na sa automatic.. hindi mamamatay ang engine kahit walang ATF yan.. pwedeng hindi mag engage ang gear pero ang engine tuloy tuloy lang.. for sure may pressure sensor yan pero usually magkahiwalay ang engine ECU sa Transmission ECU..

    based sa description ay may nginig or hesitation sa 40kph? around 2nd gear yan.. yung jerking na yan sa 2nd gear ay usual symptom ng weak ignition coil.. kahit sa manual transmission ganyan ang symptom pag weak yung ignition coil..

    one way to test that is to step on the accelerator hard from full stop.. it should also jerk due to weak ignition

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    in my years of owning a car.. lalo na sa automatic.. hindi mamamatay ang engine kahit walang ATF yan.. pwedeng hindi mag engage ang gear pero ang engine tuloy tuloy lang.. for sure may pressure sensor yan pero usually magkahiwalay ang engine ECU sa Transmission ECU..

    based sa description ay may nginig or hesitation sa 40kph? around 2nd gear yan.. yung jerking na yan sa 2nd gear ay usual symptom ng weak ignition coil.. kahit sa manual transmission ganyan ang symptom pag weak yung ignition coil..

    one way to test that is to step on the accelerator hard from full stop.. it should also jerk due to weak ignition
    I also have no experience na mag shut off ang kotse pag low or empty na ang transmission fluid.

    Pero nagtataka lang ako kasi based sa explanation after ATF change sa servitek per TS, nawala na yung incline engine shut off. Kaya nagtaka ako if meron bang ganun safety feature sa transmission ng Xtrail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    I am suspecting the same na may problem na yung transmission talaga kahit napalitan na ATF.

    Nagtataka din ako dun sa sinabi na the car shuts off before while on an incline. But now, after ATF change wala na. If walang ibang fluid change na ginawa other than ATF, then would that imply the transmission was badly fluid starved kaya on an incline when fluid will rest on one side only, the transmission becomes dry. Don't know if the Xtrail has some sort of sensor that detect fluid starvation then shuts off engine automatically though.

    Like yung sa 2004 Xtrail 2.0 ng brother ko, although "maintained" naman, basically nawawala na 4th gear. Or hindi na nakakagat ng transmission kaya top gear niya is only til 3rd gear. presently. But since exclusively city driving na lang dahil luma na, hindi na pinaayos. Wala din error lumabas sa scan nung chineck.
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    in my years of owning a car.. lalo na sa automatic.. hindi mamamatay ang engine kahit walang ATF yan.. pwedeng hindi mag engage ang gear pero ang engine tuloy tuloy lang.. for sure may pressure sensor yan pero usually magkahiwalay ang engine ECU sa Transmission ECU..

    based sa description ay may nginig or hesitation sa 40kph? around 2nd gear yan.. yung jerking na yan sa 2nd gear ay usual symptom ng weak ignition coil.. kahit sa manual transmission ganyan ang symptom pag weak yung ignition coil..

    one way to test that is to step on the accelerator hard from full stop.. it should also jerk due to weak ignition

    Just to add more info sirs, meron din ibang problem encountered. Bago pa yung incline engine shutdown, there's situation where kahit straight road lang, there's maybe a 10% change na mag-engine shutdown. Example when in traffic, gear is in D- while stepping on breaks, then boom -engine shutdown.
    Another thing na napansin ko, stop light in red - gear is in N, will shift to D while on stepping breaks - grabe yung nginig may kasama pang ugong, which is not normal and different from before.

    I might misinform to 0-40km/h, yung jerking nya is from first to second gear. second gear up wala nang jerk. Sorry dati kasi nung normal pa, grabe arangkada ng xtrail. haha, pag full step mo ang gas pedal parang umaabot sa 40 on first gear haha Ngayon from half to full press of the gas pedal, yung RPM parang nilalaro mo(parang tina-tapak tapakan mo) kahit hindi naman. But pag soft press on gas pedal, no jerking siya.

    Dati 120-140km/h no problem, ngayon nakakatakot na kapag lalagpas ng 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikezzz View Post
    Just to add more info sirs, meron din ibang problem encountered. Bago pa yung incline engine shutdown, there's situation where kahit straight road lang, there's maybe a 10% change na mag-engine shutdown. Example when in traffic, gear is in D- while stepping on breaks, then boom -engine shutdown.
    Another thing na napansin ko, stop light in red - gear is in N, will shift to D while on stepping breaks - grabe yung nginig may kasama pang ugong, which is not normal and different from before.

    I might misinform to 0-40km/h, yung jerking nya is from first to second gear. second gear up wala nang jerk. Sorry dati kasi nung normal pa, grabe arangkada ng xtrail. haha, pag full step mo ang gas pedal parang umaabot sa 40 on first gear haha Ngayon from half to full press of the gas pedal, yung RPM parang nilalaro mo(parang tina-tapak tapakan mo) kahit hindi naman. But pag soft press on gas pedal, no jerking siya.

    Dati 120-140km/h no problem, ngayon nakakatakot na kapag lalagpas ng 100
    it would appear, you have fuel starvation issues / idling rpm problems.
    what is your observed rpm during idling and when you shift from N ?

    ...is it your engine and not your transmission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it would appear, you have fuel starvation issues / idling rpm problems.
    what is your observed rpm during idling and when you shift from N ?

    ...is it your engine and not your transmission?
    Idling at N - 1000rpm
    N to D(idle) - around 800rpm
    D to N(idle) - back at 1000rpm

    Not also sure if its the engine. Kaya I badly need suggestions for a nissan expert shops. Para ma-check na rin yung ibang problems.

    ..Or should I try going to transmission repair shops?

    Thanks Sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikezzz View Post
    Idling at N - 1000rpm
    N to D(idle) - around 800rpm
    D to N(idle) - back at 1000rpm

    Not also sure if its the engine. Kaya I badly need suggestions for a nissan expert shops. Para ma-check na rin yung ibang problems.

    ..Or should I try going to transmission repair shops?

    Thanks Sir
    Idling is in Park Position, AC off. A quick goog says 750 +/- 50

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    Kung fuel. Puwede barado fuel filter. Or sira fuel pump.

    Pero maganda nga ipa check sa expert mechanic.
    Speedyfix okay sila mag diagnose.

    Speedyfix

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Idling is in Park Position, AC off. A quick goog says 750 +/- 50
    Ow sorry my bad. Idling is just at below 1000. around 800-900.

    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Kung fuel. Puwede barado fuel filter. Or sira fuel pump.

    Pero maganda nga ipa check sa expert mechanic.
    Speedyfix okay sila mag diagnose.

    Speedyfix
    As far as I remember, napalitan na ang fuel pump. But that was maybe around 2016.

    Thanks Sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikezzz View Post
    Ow sorry my bad. Idling is just at below 1000. around 800-900.



    As far as I remember, napalitan na ang fuel pump. But that was maybe around 2016.

    Thanks Sir
    Not normal idling if it goes to 900rpm.

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