Motorcycle Myths & Misconceptions

[bogart]

The following is an article taken from Philippine News Explorer and which can be found again at motorcyclephilippines.com.

Motorcycle Myths & Misconceptions

[smeagol]

Just for contrast. More info for those interested.

http://www.gladwell.com/2004/2004_01_12_a_suv.html

[yebo]

the statistics refered to by bogart did not mention one crucial data: percentages and fatalities involved in accidents involving the same type of vehicles, as againts involving other types and accidents wherein no other vehicle was involved. like in motorcycle to motorcycle or car vs car accidents, or car againts bus, or motorcycle vs cargo truck.

if those data are available then the picture will be clearer. i doubt it if you would rather be in a motorcycle if the other vehicle involved is a car.

i've had 2 accidents in the past 2 years, both involving a motorcycle (well 1 motorcycle and one tricycle). in both accidents the motorcycle rider admitted their faults. in the first accident, one motorcycle cut in front of another motorcycle forcing the poor guy to swerve and hit (or in fact he was hit by) my car. not my fault, he was the one who swerved. in the one involving a tricycle, the unlicensed minor driving it was picking passengers on the left side of the road and then suddenly made a right-hand U-turn while i was passing him at 10 kph. his tricycle "bumper" pierced my front bumper. i even gave him a warning with the horn but he said he did not hear it since his motor was revved up.

i'd rather be in a tank but they don't sell them to the public yet!

[pajerokid]

And another thing....

Most of the motorcycles here are of the "Mosquito" category.

Kadalasan when tricycles and motorbikes of this class are involved in accidents, hindi na nirereport sa Pulis. So how will the PNP have statistics on non-reported accidents??!! Take yebo's case. Was that reported? I dont think so. If all motorcycle accidents, from door dingers and gasgas to full-blown brain spilling collisions were properly documented, ewan ko lang kung ganyan pa rin ang analysis dun sa motorcyclephilippines.

I mean, lets face it. Pag nasabitan ka ng tricycle, ano sasabihin sayo? "walang pera". Ikaw naman as a car owner, idadaan mo pa ba sa insurance yung gasgas na kayang ipagawa for P500? of course not. But is it an accident? You bet.

Isa pa? The article displayed a picture of a bus without tailights..... well, what about tricycles and scooters who intentionally ride with headlights off ?

On lane spliting, yes, I agree that its better to have a bike zip past me and be on his way... pero dapat naman nasa lugar! Ang dalas mangyari nagi-gitgitan na, sabay pipilitin pa mag lane-split.

Im sure the people behind motorcyclephilippines are intelligent and responsible motorists. But the fact of the matter is around 99% of motorcyclists on the road ARE NOT!!!! And because of this, motorcyclists will be the subject of ire by "cagers", despite the justifications of the said article.

[boybi]

i couldn't agree more with PK and yebo!

[ess]

I wish the folks at motorcycle philippines would spend time in LIBIS --> C5 during rush hours. Man... the motorcycle drivers there are really, really something different.

Last week, I was in the 2nd leftmost lane going to C5 (bandang Toyota). To my left was a dark blue sentra. The sentra's sideview mirror was just about 2.5 ft away from me.

Then, a motorcycle with a lady passenger (w/o helmet or course) tried to squeeze between my car and the sentra. The knobs of his handles were almost touching my side windows. Tapos nadulas siya and I heard GRINDING metal. Thank heavens the sound did not come from my car... I felt really sorry for sentra. The motorcycle guy tried to make a get away. Pinilit niyang mag-squirm between our side view mirrors. Luckily, nag-GO na and I was able to jink to my right to avoid the motorcycle.

I saw in my rear-view mirror the motorcycle swerving to the right and escaping by turning right in the first intersection.

Worse... "FOR REGISTRATION" yung plates niya.

[pajerokid]

Hehe.... kaunting dagdag pampainit ulo lang....

When i was waiting for the green light at C5/Kalayaan, meron tumabi saking naka motor. As usual, a mosquito bike, but a privately owned one (hindi delivery boy, but parang messenger ang dating). Aba, mantakin mo ba naman SUMANDAL SA PAJERO KO!!!!!! I cant blame the guy if he's tired and all, but HELOOOOOWWWW!!!! Hindi ko nga pinadadampian sa mga bystander yung auto ko sabay eto mega-pahinga yung g*go.

So what I did was to move my car half a meter forward. Biruin nyo.... nagalit at ang sama pa ng tingin!

Binabaan ko ng bintana and tanong...."Ano problema mo?"

"Bakit mo inabante?"

"Tanga ka pala eh! Kotse yang sinasandalan mo, hindi pader!"

Napahiya ang ogags at nanahimik na lang. We both went on when the light turned green.

[HC01]

One word: nuisance

[GlennSter]

Originally posted by pajerokid
Hehe.... kaunting dagdag pampainit ulo lang....

When i was waiting for the green light at C5/Kalayaan, meron tumabi saking naka motor. As usual, a mosquito bike, but a privately owned one (hindi delivery boy, but parang messenger ang dating). Aba, mantakin mo ba naman SUMANDAL SA PAJERO KO!!!!!! I cant blame the guy if he's tired and all, but HELOOOOOWWWW!!!! Hindi ko nga pinadadampian sa mga bystander yung auto ko sabay eto mega-pahinga yung g*go.

So what I did was to move my car half a meter forward. Biruin nyo.... nagalit at ang sama pa ng tingin!

Binabaan ko ng bintana and tanong...."Ano problema mo?"

"Bakit mo inabante?"

"Tanga ka pala eh! Kotse yang sinasandalan mo, hindi pader!"

Napahiya ang ogags at nanahimik na lang. We both went on when the light turned green.

arrrggg..kakainiss...

tama naaaaaaaa

naiinis nakooooooooo

bwahrharhahrarh...

[mazdamazda]

not all motorcycle riders are nuisance... although most are!!!

in my years of driving, i can almost count in my hand the number of motorcyle riders that are observing the proper road courtesy.

what am particularly irked at is LANE SPLITTING. well IMHO they can do it if the traffic is a stand still - but other than that they shouldn't as they pose a great risk to themselves and to their fellow motorists.

i have two close encounters with these lane splitting idiots in the NLEX. as i was about to go to the other lane a motorcyle (a ducatti) appeared out of nowhere (fresh from swerving from another lane) and zoomed past! damn...

those justifications posted doesn't give them a right to disregard the traffic rules & regulations.

tricycle drivers in the Bataan show more discipline by using their hands in lieu of signal lamps. if they can't keep up with the traffic, they try to as much as possible stay in the rightmost lane.

and the nerve of them to try to get those mosquito motorcycles to ply NLEX and SLEX. we are already having a hard time seeing those big bikes in the road - what more of those messenger type motorcycles? plus the fact that they always are fond of riding in the leftmost lane regardless of their speed! geez...

[pajerokid]

Yup. 0.01% of the motorcycle population are law-abiding. Eto siguro yung mga naka Ducati and Aprilia etc. Yung mga mas malaki ang mawawala pag naka-bangga. Pero yung 99.9% ang lufet sumuway ng batas! hehe

Sumasabay sa mga pedestrian sa pedestrian lane, umaakyat sa sidewalks ng Julia Vargas, etc.

You name it they've done it! Kung kukunan ko ng litrato lahat ng motorcycle violators, ubos 512MB ng camera ko!

On a more feelgood note, yung mga tricycle sa BF P'que medyo behaved din magmaneho, lalo na while inside the village. Courteous sila kasi tanggal ang sticker nila pag gagago-gago sila (di sila pwede pumasok sa village).

But try to negiotiate the tricycles of buting- san joaquin near my place. basta ako no comment na lang, baka mapamura na naman ako...

[boybi]

akala ko yung mga mad dogs (though not 100% sure kung mad dogs nga, 3 bikes lang kasi sila, pero yung logo sa likod ng leather jackets nila, i'm sure belongs to the mad dogs) ay disciplined bikers, pero kanina, sa isang busy intersection dito sa amin, nagka gridlock na, maaayos na sana yung gridlock, pero yung lokong mga mad dogs, siningitan pa yung isang jeepney na paabante na, ayun nagka leche-leche na naman yung traffic.

[wildthing]

I use to ride a bike (100cc honda sport type) in college...I would say I am a violator too...in fact I have never realized my stupidity in bike riding until I was driving a car....as you could see, most of these violators could probably have the same point of view as mine (nung hindi pa ako nakapagdrive ng car)....I'd say "we" like superman....as if indestructible and the sort.

[onat_1]

in referance to sir boybi's comments,ang pagkakalam ko ang mga memeber ng mad dog mc's ay cruisers and touring's.kasi ang mga cruisers and touring di pwedeng magidle sa trapik ng matagal,lalo na dyan sa atin na sobra ang humidity, kasi with the exceptions of metric cruisers,air cooled ang mga ganyang cruisers,parang beetle pag nag overheat lagot na ang makina.
and in regards sa mga motorcyclist na pasaway,wala din namng pinagiba yan sa mga bus,puv's and the like na walang respect sa kalsada sa pagmamaneho.again kung sino ang sisihin nyan kundi rin naman ang mga taga-LTO na walang inatupag kundi ang korakot nila.....and that will be another forum to talk about.....geez..wala ng katapusan.
basta ako magmotor or mag kotse man basta wag lang ako sasaktan ayos na sa kin ke magrambulan sila or what..
aking dos sentimos!

[empy]

eto hindi misconception to:

big bike = 1,000 pogi points

[Chip]

why do i get the feeling that this will once again turn into a cager vs biker war?
sana naman wag na, nakakarindi na basahin yung mga yon e.

eto isang misconception :

TSINELAS = the ultimate in body protection. basta't naka tsinelas ka, di mo na kelangan ng helmet!

[dragon21]

I am quite unfortunate enough to live in front of a road hump in our subdivision.

Here's the thing, there are a lot of motorcycle riders here who ignore this hump and there are those more stupid enough to provide me with some entertainment.

Some riders slow down, thus the perennial and stupid sounding "psssss.psssst.psssssst" is a 24 hour nuisance. That's discounting their muffler.

There are those more stupid enough who tries not to slow down but instead avoid the hump by running at the street gutter. But at one time about two weeks ago, our lavandera poured enough soapy water to cover the gutter, then this one XRM tried to run the gutter, but the moronic driver slid and of course semplang sya. Nagmura pa sa labas ng bahay ng PI at irresponsible daw ang mga nakatira sa amin. Eh kundi ba naman utak sperm cells siya, sino bang nagsabing umandar siya sa gutter, e talagang daanan ng tubig iyon. Sabagay utak nya malabnaw.. Pag labas ko pinakitang kong nakangisi pa ako eh. Buti nga hindi siya binanlawan ng maid namin eh.

[ess]

sana ni-video cam mo.

[alwayz_yummy]

masakit pa nito, talo palagi tayo kahit kasalanan pa ng biker in an event of an accident.

my myth:

the helment is used to protect the elbow or the rear carrier of the bike.

the family that rides together stays together.

trikes and motors, especially in the provinces requirement: no/broken signal and tail lights.

provincial trikes ride like the wind * 160kph (100kph like ride but only 60kph), and produce too much of it: white smelly fog.

provincial trikes mostly wont let you overtake, even if you're a mitsu evo! they're always faster than you...beause you always end up in their rear, even after overtaking one.

[ILuvDetailing]

Natawa ako sa kwento mo dragon :bwahaha: ibang klase talaga...

Kasama ba mga trike drivers dito sa discussion?