Motorcycle 6 feet Under!

[BoEinG_747]

wala sa klase ng sasakyan iyan ..may mga og*g talaga na driver talaga
kahit rider pa or cager ..or kahit UB and Bigbike ( may nakasabay ako na nakabigbike ang init ng ulo pinag sisigawan ang pedestrian.eh sia din naman panay ang daan sa sidewalk)

talaga ang tao minsan wala disiplina sa sarili mismo

[Horsepower]

which goes back to the root of the problem... licensing... we should get the licensing house in order and everything will follow...

i think it just aint right to exclude and/or penalize a whole class of motor vehicle users just because we can't get the licensing process in order.. it isn't fair...

I am not proposing to penalize riders. I just want to protect everyone. We must answer this question: in the event of a bike vs car collision, who ends up dead 99.99% of the time? If for example, one has a problem, what should one do? Blame the problem or come up with solutions or workarounds against the problem? I choose to do the last two.

It's for the bikers' own good. If the governing body is corrupt, what will you do? Worse would be to do nothing. Instead, drive a car so you'll see the perspective from a cagers view, so that you'll know we won't see you when you overtake from the right, that there is a big blind spot even from our left (SUVs). I am concerned with the Bikers because they get the most damage even from a very light collision, because like any other human beings, they have lives too and they are not immortal as some of them might think. Cagers on the other hand would suffer great emotional and financial damage if they get so unlucky and meet a stupid biker on the road. My solution to that is drive defensively and assume all the others are idiots. Hence i horn when i overtake, horn when somebody gets too near. I use horn and flash a lot.

Naturally, one would want to protect human life. Only fools depend on others for that. If there's no one to guide you, be resourceful and equip yourself with the knowledge and skills to protect yourself hindi yung tatanga na lang. It would be foolish to wait for LTO to improve their licensing procedures. The exam is so easy i aced it all, i didn't even review. I believe they should limit giving driver's license to anyone. Sila na nga nagsabi, it's a privilege, not a right.

Ako high school pa lang pinag-aaralan ko na ang driving, for some reason. I religiously read about techniques and ways to avoid accidents (or potential ones) and what to do during accidents (like a tire blowing up during high speeds) so that i'll avoid it or at least minimize harm if ever, God forbid, i get into one.

Ang hirap kasi sa mga Pilipino puro asa at turo ng masisisi e esp yung mga tga metro manila. Napunta ako sa isang probinsya ng Region V, and nagulat ako doon. Yung mga motorsiklo, nagbibigayan, di naguunahan. Walang nagc-counterflow so as a cager, di ka mababadtrip. Kaya madaling makita yung hindi tga doon na mal-educado, kadalasan balasubas magmaneho.

Motor din kasi ang sinasakyan ko doon. Last January ko lang naranasan na napakasarap pala mag-motor sa probinsya.

[LexTer]

dito sa lugar namin dami naka UB na nag ka counter flow. nakita na nga na may puting linya sa gitna e sisingit pa din. pag di mo pinagbigyan titingnan ka pa ng masama. di pa nadadala e ang dami ng namatay na naka UB dito sa bandang masinag market. minsan napikon ako at gusto na mangaway. kaso pag labas ko ng kotse di ko pa nasisita yung naka UB e may nabangga ng "UB" sa may stoplight. hay nako. hay nako. hay nako......

[smalltimer]

Amen Bro Lexter!

Lalo na dito sa Upper Antipolo town proper, sobrang daming UB. Pagdating pa sa intersection dire diretso lang akala lagi silang GO. Samahan mo pa ng mga harungas na tricycles. Kaya pag nagda drive ako dito sa bayan, 3 meters pa lang before intersection nagbe beep warning na ko. Usually pa naman pag nabangga ka ng tricycle or UB, either tatakbuhan ka pa o kakamutan ka lang ng ulo

[boybi]

How about the other common opinion that "there are more UNDISCIPLINED drivers than disciplined ones in the Philippines". People here talk about how motorcyclists and bikers are bad and reckless and how they should be segregated to a single lane on the roads(which all the UNDISCIPLINED 4 wheeled drivers will occupy anyway), but seem to forget that there are way more 4 wheeled vehicles on this country's roads and the amount of reckless drivers they have far out number those that have discipline. People in this country don't really follow the rules anyway so it really doesn't matter what they drive.

Your statement is correct. But have you seen 4-wheelers removing the side mirrors, headlights, etc. in their vehicles?

[boybi]

Napunta ako sa isang probinsya ng Region V, and nagulat ako doon. Yung mga motorsiklo, nagbibigayan, di naguunahan. Walang nagc-counterflow so as a cager, di ka mababadtrip. Kaya madaling makita yung hindi tga doon na mal-educado, kadalasan balasubas magmaneho.

Motor din kasi ang sinasakyan ko doon. Last January ko lang naranasan na napakasarap pala mag-motor sa probinsya.

Pag dito ka sa Tarlac napadpad, baka magiba yung last sentence mo

Just last saturday, while traversing MacArthur Highway, nag overtake ako sa outer lane (ginawa nang 4-lane yung MacArthur Highway dito) dahil medyo mabagal yung nasa harapan ko. Meron palang 2-wheeler sa harap. When I'm almost beside the motorcycle, biglang nagswerve to my side. Nag todo brake ako and I almost hit the trees on my right and a car on my left. Yung motorcycle just returned to the inner lane na parang walang nangyari kahit sobrang lakas ng screech sound ng gulong ko. Usually, some drivers will raise their arms to apologize, pero ito wala talaga. Hindi ko lang napansin kung may nakakabit syang side mirrors.

[Hanren]

I think motorcycle riders themselves are partly to be blamed for this negative publicity.

Minsan sa highway sa Pangasinan, I was cruising at a moderate speed when suddenly, two motorcycles overtook me one after the other. Nung nagkahabulan sila at pareho ng nasa harapan ko, biglang nasagi nung isang motorcycle yung katabi niyang motorcycle na hinahabol niya. Natumba yung isa (nagasgas sa cemento yung mga binti nya-kitang kita ko plus maybe may mga bali pa siguro sa katawan) at muntik ko pang masagasaan. I slowly made a stop to check on the guy pero nakatayo naman at kunwari eh kaya niya pang itayo yung bike nya by gesturing that he's ok.

Buti na lang hindi ko nasagasaan. At buti na lang walang kasalubong na
sasakyan sa opposite lane.. Damn....Maawa ka at the same time mang gagalaiti ka sa nangyari..

[LexTer]

nalaman ko po ito 2 days ago lang. nangyari 2 sundays ng nakalipas pala. yung asawa pala ng kababata ko e patawid ng kalsada para sana magsimba. sinalpok ng UB. maraming ribs ang naputol daw. yung driver ng motor e puro sugat lang.

nung patawid na daw sya ayon sa mga nakakita, e huminto na yung jeep. pedestrian lane kasi yun. yung motor di nag menor. di nya napansin na patawid yung babae. nakaharang na kasi yung jeep na huminto. sa kasamaang palad e namatay yung babae kahit umabot pa ng ospital. nailibing na rin kahapon. yung driver naman e naka pag piyansa na daw.

DAPAT TUMULAD TAYO SA SUBIC. KE MAY TUMATAWID O WALA. BASTA TAWIRAN NG TAO DAPAT HUMINTO!

[j_avonni]

Stricter motorcyle registration rules urged

By Kristine L. Alave
Inquirer
Last updated 02:41am (Mla time) 05/01/2007

MANILA, Philippines – Alarmed at the rampant use of motorcycles in robberies and criminal activities, the top police official in the eastern part of Metro Manila has urged local government officials to create more stringent rules on the registration of motorcycles.

Chief Supt. Luizo Ticman, Eastern Police District director, said he has talked to local officials about the possibility of introducing an ordinance that would mandate stricter laws on motorcycle registration to enable law enforcers to quickly identify their owners and weed out the criminals.

“We are trying to work out a mechanism under which anyone who buys a motorcycle would also have to register the helmets they would use. The helmets would have the owner’s plate number,” Ticman said.

“We still need to finetune this but we are already broaching the idea to local government units,” he added.

Under the proposal, police and traffic enforcers can immediately flag down motorbike riders if their license plates are not printed on their helmets.

Ticman said he also asked Metropolitan Manila Development Authority Chair Bayani Fernando to study the possibility of having a uniform, Metro-wide rule on motorcycle registration.

He added that the EPD is conducting a survey to determine the number of motorcycles registered in the area.

There have been many cases in the past of motorcycle-riding men who held up people who had just withdrawn huge amounts of money from banks.

Last week, a couple in Mandaluyong City who had just come from a bank was tailed by three armed men on a motorbike. The suspects later blocked their vehicle and took the P2.7 million in cash which they had just withdrawn.

(emphasis mine)

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I think it's a good idea to register also the helmets and print the unit's plate number on them.

[heightdeprived]

I think it's a good idea to register also the helmets and print the unit's plate number on them.

Why would it be a good idea? What if I have a Dio Scooter, a Suzuki Bandit and a Suzuki Shogun underbone? It wouldn't make sense to buy one helmet for each and every motorcycle. Competitive motorcycle helmets are not cheap ranging from a modest 3000 pesos to a whopping 35000 pesos. Not to mention those stickers or any prints in the helmet will tarnish its finish. Paint may also be a cause of deterioration of helmets' outer shells. How many misfits are there compared to the number of motorcycles roaming the metro? Did they formulated the same rules when the L300 has been a popular get away vehicle when the carnappings are rampant?

[eojlin]

I'm not saying na tama yung idea on placing plates on helmets. But I think naging sagot lang sa kanila yan to control bike related crimes. People laughed at their idea when they tried to impose a no helmet policy. Now this idea, does not restrict bikers from wearing helmets. For now, it's the most realistic idea they can come up, unless WE can contribute any, and we should (kelangan feasible a).

[eojlin]

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I have a wide view rear mirror and fully functional side mirrors pero madalas (not all the time though) ang mga bikes ay unseeable pa rin sa kalsada. Magugulat ka na lang na may bike pala na gustong sumingit sa tabi mo na muntik mo nang tamaan or muntik sumabit sa side mirrors or fenders. I wouldn't ride an invisible vehicle especially with my partner or kids in a busy traffic.
- Imperceptible and very elusive -
Don't ask why snatchers, hitmen, vigilantes use bikes.


Btw, I'm not sure kung paano nakuha yung figures sa statistics na lumalabas dito, naisip ko lang na sobrang daming bikes na sa kalsada. One accident involved one pickup truck and 6 bikes - sino ang nakakalakad pa?

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[heightdeprived]

I think this is less brow-raising compared to license-plates-on-helmets,



Notice their windscreens on the lower-right part, they stick their license letters and numbers up front...

However all these measures are useless if the police is nowhere to be found within the vicinity...

So I think better police visibility is still the key to the problem,