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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    most of the drivers dito, natuto lang humawak, nagkakalisensya na, lalo na ang mga tricycle, xrms drivers.. walang proper education pa..
    natuto mag atras abante ng kotse driver na daw sila.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by heightdeprived View Post
    actually I think kelangan every renewal ng drivers' licenses eh may re-evaluation ang drivers (riders as well) bago mabigyan ng renewal ang bagsak balik sa driving school, tapos yung evaluation dapat computer driven kahit objective type man lang na computerized (written exam) pag computerized kasi pwedeng i-shuffle ang mga choices, saka mga tanong kaya walang kopyahan, tapos the results will be direct-to-LTO, para sure na walang lagayan bagsak kung bagsak...
    meron pa din... ang technique nila ngayon, since computer generated na nga yung mga questionaires, pag may linalakad, piprint na nung computer operator yung questionaire tapos mamarkahan na nila yung mga tamang sagot tapos ibibigay dun sa examinee... they don't realize that they are putting other road users in danger... mga pakshet!!!

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    #23
    Dapat, yung mga kukuha ng Restriction 1 (for motorcycles) should have driven a car for at least one year. That'll probably give them the perspective of car drivers when they do ride their 2-wheeled rides.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Dapat, yung mga kukuha ng Restriction 1 (for motorcycles) should have driven a car for at least one year. That'll probably give them the perspective of car drivers when they do ride their 2-wheeled rides.
    or the other way around...

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    #25
    Here in our country, there's no designated lane/s for motorcycles. Thus, you could see them in all lanes. Most of them are racing, trying to overtake other vehicles like snakes - swerving from lane to lane.

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by j_avonni View Post
    Here in our country, there's no designated lane/s for motorcycles. Thus, you could see them in all lanes. Most of them are racing, trying to overtake other vehicles like snakes - swerving from lane to lane.
    In America there are no designated lanes for motorcycles and things are still better there than they are here. Like I said, no amount of laws or segregation can improve the road conditions here, unless somebody in the government takes a stand and tries to change the attitudes of people in this country. I teach road safety and driving in the company I work for, and every pinoy employee I train fails the first time around.

    How can the conditions improve here, when the government officials are just as ignorant as the masses. I've read on another site that some Philippine city's are proposing or have implemented a ban on helmets for motorcycle riders to stop crime. WTF!! are they smoking! Banning the single most important thing a biker should have.

    Motorcycle lanes are good if implemented correctly. They should be at least the size of two car lanes and be blocked off on both sides to keep the UNDISCIPLINED drivers from using them as a passing lane and should be for motorcycles only. NO Bicycles! Bicycles are not motorized vehicles and cannot do 70-80 kph or more. Now, if you think about it, where will the government get the funds to build a motorcycle lane with these specifications on all roads and highways? And do you think car drivers here are willing to sacrifice 3 lanes of their un-safe roads to give motorcyclists their own lane? I don't think so.

    Lets take a look at why motorcyclists here swerve like snakes. They do it because they can. Its natural for people here to do things that they know are wrong but do them anyway because they can get away with it. If cars were as small and maneuverable as a motorcycle then most car drivers would do the same. I see car drivers swerve like snakes whenever the gap between vehicles is enough to fit their car in and they also do it without signaling(happens way too often during rush hours), so what makes them so different from motorcyclists? Not a whole lot. It takes discipline to not do things that are wrong even if you know you could get away with doing them. Sadly though, a majority of road users here lack that one thing. DISCIPLINE.

    I do my part in trying to educate my fellow employees about how to drive a vehicle properly but it is a futile exercise until the government gets strict with law enforcement and force people here to follow the rules all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Dapat, yung mga kukuha ng Restriction 1 (for motorcycles) should have driven a car for at least one year. That'll probably give them the perspective of car drivers when they do ride their 2-wheeled rides.
    I don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head in amazement.

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Dapat, yung mga kukuha ng Restriction 1 (for motorcycles) should have driven a car for at least one year. That'll probably give them the perspective of car drivers when they do ride their 2-wheeled rides.
    So those applying for Restriction 2 should be able to drive a bike also for a year?

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    it just boils down to 3 words:

    "LACK OF DISIPLINE"

    yan ang wala sa 80-95% ng mga drivers ng pilipinas...aminin na natin, maraming professionals/elite din na walang disiplina pag nagmamaneho na!


    edit--> sige na nga 79-94%

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    #29
    Motorcycles are the #1 cause of corruption in our government!

    Dumptrucks should be elected in senate.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by alwayz_yummy View Post
    it just boils down to 3 words:

    "LACK OF DISIPLINE"

    yan ang wala sa 80-95% ng mga drivers ng pilipinas...aminin na natin, maraming professionals/elite din na walang disiplina pag nagmamaneho na!


    edit--> sige na nga 79-94%
    Look at the bus lanes. You could see buses out of the lane and private cars inside the lane. But I noticed, the MMDA enforcers don't apprehend the bus drivers who are off the lane. Sa mga private car drivers kasi malamang kumita pa sila.

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    #31
    Look at the bus lanes. You could see buses out of the lane and private cars inside the lane. But I noticed, the MMDA enforcers don't apprehend the bus drivers who are off the lane. Sa mga private car drivers kasi malamang kumita pa sila.
    kumikita din naman sila sa mga bus at mga jeep (regular pa )

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    #32
    what i want to know is, how did the motorcycle get 6 feet under?? :confused:

    did somebody take the time to bury it? and for what purpose? one of the unsolved mysteries of our generation

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    #33
    The reason why i proposed that is because often, UB and scoot riders here are uneducated, uncivilized and just got their licenses by paying off the LTO fixers. They don't know jack about street signs, road rules and often, regard themselves as exempted from these rules so they often end up dead on the road or engaged in an accident.

    They counterflow, they cross pedestrian lanes, they block pedestrian lanes (on a red light). I mean just what the hell are these clowns thinking? They own the road or something? And they want expressway access??? I can't imagine the chaos they'll create. Responsible bikers are welcome though.

    Then when accidents happen they often blame the cage driver. When they damage cars, they flee as coward thieves. That is from experience. These psychos put spikes on their handlebars to intentionally damage cars and SUVs. They don't care if they damage expensive property. They can easily run away anyway.

    My friends who ride KTM, Aprilia, BMW and Ducatis are often the courteous and responsible ones on the road. They don't counterflow. They have cars and SUVs too so they know the limitations of being inside a car. The the blind spots and so on. They don't put spikes on their handlebars. These type of riders are often the ones i see who are good to other motorists on the road.

    I don't discount the fact that some UB and scoot drivers are also courteous and law abiders but then again they're probably 0.0000001% of the population of riders.

    Of course, who doesn't want harmony on the road? Everyone is welcome to use it but please follow the rules. If they wanna die, that's none of my business but i hope they do it without harming anyone else. Like the one who ran over an old lady in QC, the poor lady died. The one who bumped a bicycle in Junction Cainta, the bicycle rider, an old man, died of internal hemorrhage. Those two killers were never apprehended. it was a traffic and they both sped away.

    In McKinley road, motorcycles there are often counterflowing. Several times, I've had some word wars with those morons.

    I ride motorcycles too so i know being responsible on the road is possible. I don't bank, i don't race. I don't run over the pedestrian lane like some idiot to cross the street.

    In turning, they always want to prove they can get through, several times, i was turning left, a moron would try to overtake on my left, same with turning right. Just what the hell is their problem anyway? were they abused by their parents or something?

    We have enough problems with the jeeps, taxis and buses already, please don't add to the problem.

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    #34
    I think the root cause of this problem is the way our country grants driving licenses to both car and motorcycle riders. I mean, who among us actually had a proper practical driving exam? ? ?

    So the solution is proper education! But of course, with it, the cost of getting a driver's license will probably be at least 10x more and people will start complaining how anti-poor it is.

    And I'm 100% sure that the gov't knows the solution to this problem so political will talga ang kailangan ... *sigh*

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    My friends who ride KTM, Aprilia, BMW and Ducatis are often the courteous and responsible ones on the road. They don't counterflow. They have cars and SUVs too so they know the limitations of being inside a car. The the blind spots and so on. They don't put spikes on their handlebars. These type of riders are often the ones i see who are good to other motorists on the road.
    Same thing with cars, I notice many drivers of nicer or well kept cars are usually more courteous as well...

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    #36
    Ang isa pang nakakainis sa mga motorcyclists kung ginagamit nila ang sidewalk.

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    #37
    Oo tapos bubusinahan yung mga naglalakad. Mga walang modo eh.

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    #38
    buti na lng di na ako naka UB & scoot . Para skin lng ha ok lng naman ksi sumungit ka as long as na maingat ka(I do drive a car,van&suv to). Basta para skin karamihan ng bikers & cager's walang disiplina sinasabi nyo mas madami bikerz?? dont think so subukan nyo mag motor malalaman nyo, yng mga nag oovertake sa rigth lane tas gigitgitin ka porkit naka motor ka hay naku. Pero pansin ko dati ksi dati UB motor ko wala rumerespeto ngyun Enduro type mas madami na ang remerspeto na cagers bat ganun????

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    #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    The reason why i proposed that is because often, UB and scoot riders here are uneducated, uncivilized and just got their licenses by paying off the LTO fixers. They don't know jack about street signs, road rules and often, regard themselves as exempted from these rules so they often end up dead on the road or engaged in an accident.

    which goes back to the root of the problem... licensing... we should get the licensing house in order and everything will follow...

    i think it just aint right to exclude and/or penalize a whole class of motor vehicle users just because we can't get the licensing process in order.. it isn't fair...

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    #40
    Favorite ko sa mga undisciplined motorcycle drivers yung pag counterflow nila against sa way ko, taking up to 1 meter of my lane. Gagawin ko sasalubungin ko talaga para matakot at bumalik sa lane nila i'm a scooter rider myself pero hindi ko ginagawa yung mag counterflow unless overtaking safely

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