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    In my journey to find my next SUV, I’ve been receiving those sponsored FB ads on facelifted vehicles. I first learned of them over a decade ago when navigators or Escalades (not sure anymore) where being “upgraded”. Now I see ads of LCs and Patrols with facelift kits, and somehow I see that it’s a good way for some to refresh a trusted and worthy companion who’ve served them for some time instead of simply slapping on a new set of wheels. Or, if one desires the new look but does not have the budget for it, a used unit and a facelift might do the trick.

    Some thoughts come to mind:
    - is it still (or has it ever been) taboo?
    - assuming the owner is honest about provenance, no harm no foul?
    - to each his own?

    What’s your take?

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    Are you referring to buying a third party kit to "facelift" you car?

    Using the Mirage as a sample, you want to buy a kit to make it look like the current version?

    From:


    To:


    ???

    Or are you referring to A-Toy's projects? (like what this Ginebra player did?)



    My personal opinion

    Buy the best car you can afford, enjoy it and learn to move on when the time comes.

    When I was younger (collage days), "upgrade" here and there, but they will only have a negative impact on the value of your car when its time to sell.

    Plus I noticed that some of the biggest "updates" a car receives (mid-cycle) is actually on the inside (e.g. better entertainment system)

    So the only 3rd party "upgrade" my cars get is a head-unit

    Everything else, is the same from the day it left the dealership... If you see my car in person, yes those body-kits were installed by the dealership (last na talaga, next car will be all stock)

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    as for your question. Its your car and if body-kits and facelifts make you happy, you don't need to defend yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Are you referring to buying a third party kit to "facelift" you car?

    Using the Mirage as a sample, you want to buy a kit to make it look like the current version?

    From:


    To:


    ???

    Or are you referring to A-Toy's projects? (like what this Ginebra player did?)



    My personal opinion

    Buy the best car you can afford, enjoy it and learn to move on when the time comes.

    When I was younger (collage days), "upgrade" here and there, but they will only have a negative impact on the value of your car when its time to sell.

    Plus I noticed that some of the biggest "updates" a car receives (mid-cycle) is actually on the inside (e.g. better entertainment system)

    So the only 3rd party "upgrade" my cars get is a head-unit

    Everything else, is the same from the day it left the dealership... If you see my car in person, yes those body-kits were installed by the dealership (last na talaga, next car will be all stock)

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    as for your question. Its your car and if body-kits and facelifts make you happy, you don't need to defend yourself
    Thanks for the response.

    Yes I’m referring to aftermarket kits to update the look of a car, similar to the LC and Patrol kits one can find on FB. I think Atoy’s kits are more into the Toyota to Lexus transformation.

    No I’m not defending myself, I’m not looking to purchase a facelifted vehicle nor facelift an existing one. I simply wonder as to how people in general feel about it given the prevalence of these kits and the openness in marketing them.

    Good point on resale value, by the way.

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    Keep the car stock. It’s a bit pretentious modding it to make it look like a more expensive one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Keep the car stock. It’s a bit pretentious modding it to make it look like a more expensive one.


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    How about upping the look? From this year to another year look?

    My relatives in Apalit told me mostly PPVs do this mabenta nga daw talaga bumper / ilaw / fender flares.

    Yung tropa ko nabangga Fortuner niya, we are looking for a surplus parts for him kaso yun nga in demand yung panels na hanap niya due to those “upgrading” their look.


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    another thing to consider... How the paint will age

    Imagine replacing the car's bumper which is technically more than half of the car's front

    yung paint ng new bumper will be matched to the existing paint ng car mo which is slightly faded thanks to the natural elements

    yung paint ng new bumber... mag fade pa lang. and after a year, mapapansin mo na magkaiba na yung paint ng body and bumper ng car mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    How about upping the look? From this year to another year look?
    since nabanggit mo yung bangga

    yung Revo ng friend ko nabangga ng Starex na company car (I think early 2020, wala pa kasi silang mask sa photos).

    Sabi ni Starex, company policy daw na kahit anong accident, yung car dapat dalhin sa casa for repairs

    so dinala yung Revo sa Toyota for body repairs... nung lumabas, sa casa yung Revo, facelifted look na with body kits. wala na daw kasi silang parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    since nabanggit mo yung bangga

    yung Revo ng friend ko nabangga ng Starex na company car (I think early 2020, wala pa kasi silang mask sa photos).

    Sabi ni Starex, company policy daw na kahit anong accident, yung car dapat dalhin sa casa for repairs

    so dinala yung Revo sa Toyota for body repairs... nung lumabas, sa casa yung Revo, facelifted look na with body kits. wala na daw kasi silang parts
    what year yung nabanggang Revo? YUng facelift bang ginamit is sa Sport Runner o sa VX200? Might considering giving a facelift of my 2000 GLX.

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    I'm not into it. I'd go with maximum gloss via ceramic coating. It never gets old.

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    Maybe it's my age talking, but I couldn't care any more less with external appearance beyond stock. I understand your individualistic urges.... I get it. But really, for a facelift to be anywhere good and not end up looking cheesy, you will need to pour a lot of money into it. And even then, it's still not the real thing.

    I'm more into creature comforts... quality ICE with a killer SQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    what year yung nabanggang Revo? YUng facelift bang ginamit is sa Sport Runner o sa VX200? Might considering giving a facelift of my 2000 GLX.
    1999 yung Revo nya... VX200 look nung lumabas sa casa (di ko alam kung saan dinala yung car)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    I'm not into it. I'd go with maximum gloss via ceramic coating. It never gets old.
    Very true! Always a fan of glossy prior year vehicles, especially if kept stock.

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    The only thing I'd like to do on my cars is getting rid of the chromed bits because personally, I find them tacky. But I understand why some would go for a look that is different from the rest. People value their individuality. Like how nobody really wants to show up at the office in the same clothes. I just draw the line at those kits that make a midsized SUV look like its full sized brother. Or make a Toyota look like a Lexus. But that's just me. Everyone is entitled to do whatever the heck they want with their money.

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    Different tastes for different folks. All my cars have always been just “Stock+” (i.e. mostly stock with OEM upgrades).

    2013 Ranger XLT - 18” Wildtrak rims, silver bottom bumper:



    2015 Altis 1.6G - 18” G37 rims,Vkool clear tint



    2017 Civic 1.8E - 18” Accord V6 rims, black grille, USDM ducktail






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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    1999 yung Revo nya... VX200 look nung lumabas sa casa (di ko alam kung saan dinala yung car)
    puedeng tatas pa resale value niyan nag mukhang top of the line is it gas/diesel or matic/MT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Different tastes for different folks. All my cars have always been just “Stock+” (i.e. mostly stock with OEM upgrades).

    2013 Ranger XLT - 18” Wildtrak rims, silver bottom bumper:



    2015 Altis 1.6G - 18” G37 rims,Vkool clear tint



    2017 Civic 1.8E - 18” Accord V6 rims, black grille, USDM ducktail






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    These are nice and tastefully done

    The Fortuner/LC200 in the second post isn't


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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    puedeng tatas pa resale value niyan nag mukhang top of the line is it gas/diesel or matic/MT?
    Gas MT

    mga 20 years ago... noong officemates pa kami. libre Gas from office... diesel hindi

    kaya walang bumili ng diesel sa amin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    1999 yung Revo nya... VX200 look nung lumabas sa casa (di ko alam kung saan dinala yung car)
    hala edi mahal inabot since palit pati rear door dahil iba ung style ng bintana sa likod ng early gen revo diba ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLZ View Post
    hala edi mahal inabot since palit pati rear door dahil iba ung style ng bintana sa likod ng early gen revo diba ?
    di ko sure. sa ex-colleague ko yung Revo

    and Company nung Starex yung nagbayad

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