Montero S to be assembled in Indonesia

[StockEngine]

Why didnt we get this plant? it wouldve created hundreds of jobs. Philippines is the biggest market for this ppv.

maybe plants here dont have that much incentives?

we are giving too much money to indonesia and thailand...



Mitsubishi opens its Bekasi plant in Indonesia - facility to produce Pajero Sport and new seven-seat MPV

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[StockEngine]

its a shame we dont even break 6figures in vehicle manufacturing...



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[Lew_Alcindor]

Why didnt we get this plant? it wouldve created hundreds of jobs. Philippines is the biggest market for this ppv.

maybe plants here dont have that much incentives?

we are giving too much money to indonesia and thailand...



Mitsubishi opens its Bekasi plant in Indonesia - facility to produce Pajero Sport and new seven-seat MPV

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This. I am not a business person but what I heard and read is that our laws just do not allow our economy to compete against our neighbors. We cannot match the incentives given to foreign investors by Thailand and Indonesia.

Google ASEAN Foreign Direct Investment. Makikita mo yung lamang ng Thailand and Indonesia.

[niky]

This. I am not a business person but what I heard and read is that our laws just do not allow our economy to compete against our neighbors. We cannot match the incentives given to foreign investors by Thailand and Indonesia.

Google ASEAN Foreign Direct Investment. Makikita mo yung lamang ng Thailand and Indonesia.

It would be possible... but only with political will and cooperation from the LGUs.

Considering tax incentives and comprehensive industry bills like the CARS program take forever to program, however...

[AG4]

Why didnt we get this plant? it wouldve created hundreds of jobs. Philippines is the biggest market for this ppv.

maybe plants here dont have that much incentives?

we are giving too much money to indonesia and thailand...

We are one of the most expensive South East Asian countries to manufacture in, power rates are high compared to our neighbors.
Thailand has always been aggressive when it comes to giving carmakers incentives.

[snuks]

MMC Philippines new Sta. Rosa plant is already in operational status: The Promise of Tomorrow - Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation

If MMC Indonesia have Montero in line, we have also locally assembled Mirage (to be exported worldwide), Adventure, L300, and Canter/Fuso trucks....MMC Phils. has also a subsidiary; the ATC (Asian Transmission Corp.) located in Canlubang, Laguna. In here, they manufacture from scratch parts of transmission and axle units for all Mitsubishi models, mayron pa assembly ng makina ng Adventure, Lancer, at L300. These units are shipped to all Mitsubishi manufacturing plants around the world. Isn't that very nice, proudly Filipino made transmission and axle units.....pagbalik sa Pilipinas nasa Pajero na, ASX, Lancer, Montero, Outlander, etc...etc...I was once a machinist in ATC, and am proud of what i did when I was still there machining and grinding mainshaft assembly and cutting 3rd gear parts....MMC Phils. and ATC already provided decent jobs and opportunities for thousands of Filipinos since late 1980's. Labour strikes are seldom to happen as both companies are fair to their employees despite the fact that our government ay namumutakti ng corruptions at red tapes.
I think the best way to attract more premium investments like sa nagyayari sa Indonesia at Thailand is maging matino na sana ang gobyerno natin and to upkeep our skilled workers pagdating sa training and knowledge.

[ice15]

CARS program is a good start, but honestly it's not enough...

We need to sell more cars and the proposed new tax will not help...

(I saw this post by J. Deakin and tama sya, the people who will be most affected by the proposed excise tax are the small people... The dealership's security guards, sales staff, mechanics, buy and sell guys for used cars etc... Tayo naman bibili tayo ng car kahit magkano pa sya, magiipon lang tayo)

If I remember correctly, India and Indonesia has a program for small cars. Thailand for pick-ups and Malaysia for locally assembled cars.

I went to Phuket for a holiday and yung nagtitinda ng mangga by the beach drives a new Hi Lux! Yung bangkero nung bamboo raft naka D-Max para iakyat ulit yung raft nya after the ride!

If we assemble the Montero here tapos wala naman incentive ang Mitsubishi, bakit pa? We already have the L300, Adventure and Mirage...

Sana ibalik ng government yung AUV program dati na may tax exception kapag 10 seater ang sasakyan... Kaso alam naman natin kung anong nangyari dun (ehem CRV)

[niky]

CARS program is a good start, but honestly it's not enough...

We need to sell more cars and the proposed new tax will not help...

(I saw this post by J. Deakin and tama sya, the people who will be most affected by the proposed excise tax are the small people... The dealership's security guards, sales staff, mechanics, buy and sell guys for used cars etc... Tayo naman bibili tayo ng car kahit magkano pa sya, magiipon lang tayo)

If I remember correctly, India and Indonesia has a program for small cars. Thailand for pick-ups and Malaysia for locally assembled cars.

I went to Phuket for a holiday and yung nagtitinda ng mangga by the beach drives a new Hi Lux! Yung bangkero nung bamboo raft naka D-Max para iakyat ulit yung raft nya after the ride!

If we assemble the Montero here tapos wala naman incentive ang Mitsubishi, bakit pa? We already have the L300, Adventure and Mirage...

Sana ibalik ng government yung AUV program dati na may tax exception kapag 10 seater ang sasakyan... Kaso alam naman natin kung anong nangyari dun (ehem CRV)

It was a BS tax break, and Honda had every right to exploit the loophole.

Shame that they removed the break.

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Yeah, the small guys will suffer. Mechanic apprentices and salespeople laid off due to tighter budgets. Luxury dealer employees and management laid off wholesale.

Distribution. Sales. Maintenance. Delivery. All caught up in a domino effect that won't really benefit the government all that much.

A simple linear tax increase would suffice. But no, they had to make it logarithmic for some stupid "hoy-anti-oligarch-kami-no" reason.

[ice15]

It was a BS tax break, and Honda had every right to exploit the loophole.

Shame that they removed the break.

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Yeah, the small guys will suffer. Mechanic apprentices and salespeople laid off due to tighter budgets. Luxury dealer employees and management laid off wholesale.

Distribution. Sales. Maintenance. Delivery. All caught up in a domino effect that won't really benefit the government all that much.

A simple linear tax increase would suffice. But no, they had to make it logarithmic for some stupid "hoy-anti-oligarch-kami-no" reason.

I personally can accept the Excise Tax...

But the government must give us something in return...

Maybe Tax Free for Hybrids...

Or something similar to our old AUV Tax Exception...

I'm sure a Mitsubishi will assemble a Montero with 10 seatbelts (ehem CRV again ) if it was tax free.

[dct]

Dapat mga ang itax nila yung 15 years older. Mga 10k ang rehistro taon taon. Tapos add pa 1k every year older ng 15 years. I think mas malaki makuha na tax dyan. Kasi yung iba mapilitan na bumili ng bago, edi may tax din yun. Cleaner air pa. At tuloy ang businesses ng mga tao

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[ice15]

Wait.... OT na tayo...

Pero minsan ang lungkot lang na hindi naiisip ng Gov't to find ways to encourage new car purchase and reduce the 10++ year old cars sa road natin.

If we can sell 2M new cars per year, I'm sure madaming mag manufacture ng cars dito kahit walang tax incentive ang government.

[kagalingan]

Dapat mga ang itax nila yung 15 years older. Mga 10k ang rehistro taon taon. Tapos add pa 1k every year older ng 15 years. I think mas malaki makuha na tax dyan. Kasi yung iba mapilitan na bumili ng bago, edi may tax din yun. Cleaner air pa. At tuloy ang businesses ng mga tao

Mali yung itax kung patandaan.

Example a new diesel vs 15 year gas engine......Panalong-panalo sa linis ang gaso..

So ang dapat itax iheavily kung ano mas detrimental sa environment.

Pero minsan ang lungkot lang na hindi naiisip ng Gov't to find ways to encourage new car purchase and reduce the 10++ year old cars sa road natin.

If we can sell 2M new cars per year, I'm sure madaming mag manufacture ng cars dito kahit walang tax incentive ang government.

Hindi maganda long term sa pag build ng city ang 2million cars sold every year. Eh ngayon pa lang super traffic at walang garahe ang mga bahay eh what more pa kung ganyan kadami mabenta sasakyan....

Kaya im hoping sa underground train na gagawin ng japan-pinas. More mass-transport....

Kung ako sa inyo instead of buying new cars eh maintain your car properly so it will last....and pag nagdrive kayo swabe lang....wag harurot...

[dr. d]

Mali yung itax kung patandaan.

Example a new diesel vs 15 year gas engine......Panalong-panalo sa linis ang gaso..

So ang dapat itax iheavily kung ano mas detrimental sa environment.





Hindi maganda long term sa pag build ng city ang 2million cars sold every year. Eh ngayon pa lang super traffic at walang garahe ang mga bahay eh what more pa kung ganyan kadami mabenta sasakyan....

Kaya im hoping sa underground train na gagawin ng japan-pinas. More mass-transport....

Kung ako sa inyo instead of buying new cars eh maintain your car properly so it will last....and pag nagdrive kayo swabe lang....wag harurot...

my proposal is to tax ALL motor vehicles, because all of them spew out pollutants.
we can start with the new ones.
then, tax the car more and more, as it ages, to convince the owner that buying a new one is cheaper than staying with the older one. the sweeping assumption is that newer designs spew out less pollution than older designs.
tax diesels more heavily? "too politically in-correct! ibinaba na nga ang presyo ng krudo kumpara sa gasolina..."

[kagalingan]

doc d

Kung itatax dapat meron standard kung sino mas harmful.

Kasi parang yung naregulate plastic bag eh laki din nabawas sa baha. So nabawasan ang collateral damage.

The dirtiest area dito metro manila eh both south area, pasay and makati. Dahil sa diesel...

Dalawa klase ng pollution nasa diesel - noise and air.

Lets compare

A 1996 civic vs the current everest, fortuner, montero, isuzu eh labanan ng patahimikan at mas malinis na tambucho eh civic. And partida pa eh 21years old car yan.

So taxing a gasoline engine car just because matanda eh walang basehan.

Lets focus sa mga collateral damage.....not just maintainance

[ice15]

Hindi maganda long term sa pag build ng city ang 2million cars sold every year. Eh ngayon pa lang super traffic at walang garahe ang mga bahay eh what more pa kung ganyan kadami mabenta sasakyan....

Bossing malaki Pilipinas... Pwede naman natin abutin ang Million car sales per year pero outside Metro Manila ang bibili...

[ice15]

Bro, yung thread is nakapanghihinayang na yung trabaho eh mapupunta sa Indonesians at hindi sa Pilipino.

Kung walang bibili ng bagong kotse, isipin mo mga tao na mawawalan ng trabaho.

Maaring mas malaking pollution kung bibili ka ng bago kotse (isipin na lang natin yung mga factory na gagawa ng bakal, plastic, barko na magdadala ng kotse dito sa Pinas etc) pero kailangan ng tao may gawin para kumita...

Kada isang kotse na nadadagdag sa EDSA na dumadagdag sa traffic, madaming family ang makikinabang.

[yebo]

masakit talaga isipin na mas mataas pa ang average wages sa indonesia (at thailand at malaysia) kesa sa pinas pero dun pa din nagpupuntahan ang car manufacturers. why? kasi dun there are more stable government policies kesa sa pinas na nagpapalitpalit kada 6 na taon.