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    #3551
    DTI orders recall of Mitsubishi Montero units

    Dominic Almelor, ABS-CBN News

    Posted at Jun 07 2017 09:30 PM



    Decision still subject to appeal as Mitsubishi asserts safety of its vehicles



    MANILA - The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) on Wednesday ordered Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corporation to recall automatic transmission units of the Montero Sport released from 2010 to 2015 due to a defect in its pedal displacement design.

    The DTI Adjudication Division’s decision was in response to complaints filed against Mitsubishi Motors for alleged cases of sudden unintended acceleration (SUA).

    The agency found that accidents involving the vehicle were not due to SUA but because of a defective pedal displacement design, which rendered unsafe and dangerous 2010 to 2015 automatic transmission models of the Montero.

    The agency commanded Mitsubishi Motors to cease and desist from marketing and selling units of the vehicle model in question, to refund those that have affected vehicles depending on the appraised value, and to make public the product recall order within 20 days.

    It also instructed Mitsubishi Motors to recall the vehicles of the 24 victims of alleged SUA cases, and to give them a refund.

    DTI said the decision was not yet final due to a motion for reconsideration filed by Mitsubishi Motors Philippines.

    The complainant, DTI's Fair Trade Enforcement Bureau (FTEB), will have to answer the motion before a final resolution is released.

    In a statement, Mitsubishi Motors Philippines said it was confident about the technical integrity and safety compliance of the car units in question.

    "No safety-related concerns on SUA have been raised in any other market concerning the Montero Sport (2010-2015) automatic, of which 360,000 units have been sold around the world," the statement read.

    In December 2015, the FTEB filed administrative charges against Mitsubishi Motors Philippines for the sale of alleged defective, hazardous, and dangerous products based on complaints over its Montero model.
    DTI orders recall of Mitsubishi Montero units | ABS-CBN News

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    #3552
    No such thing as SUA. Pedal misapplication lang ang kalabasan ng report...

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    #3553
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post





    Ang reason ng SUA is faulty pedal design that is not idiot proof enough. MMPC can simply point out the Strada with similar pedals...

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    Walandyo,- "faulty pedal design"...

    IMO,- napaka-lame na dahilan ito para suportahan ng DTI.

    I smell something is not above board here...

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    #3554
    Money money money

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    #3555
    Di ba pagnagrecall inaayos ang problema....kung pedal placement ang problema, gusto ba ng DTI asyusin ng mitsu yung mga pedal?

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    #3556
    From the MS SUA FB page...

    Raffy Nieto
    "Does the SUA group agree with the DTI report?"

    To clarify, those active (like myself) in this SUA info site are not part of any organized group on this issue.

    We all contribute individually to its content. So the opinions we post are our own, unless we are quoting an external group not related to those managing this site. So here, I will provide MY OWN OPINION on this DTI Decision…

    I DO NOT AGREE with the Pedal Misapplication theory being stated by DTI. If you read the Horiba Mira report, it clearly states that its not yet understood why the Montero is susceptible to pedal Misapplication when other vehicles that have NO SUA reports also have similar pedal positions...

    In fairness to the DTI Adjudication Team who are currently working on this, am aware that they were challenged to render a decision on the matter as it was difficult to find a specific cause for what causes SUA. The SUPER HIGH SUA RATE on the Montero Gen 2 (2010-2015) is too high to ignore. It’s statistically impossible to render all these SUA reports on the Montero as PURELY COINCIDENTAL…

    When Mitsubishi published the Horiba Mira report, there was an obvious clear assessment that since pedal misapplication is seen as the likely cause and that SUA is only reported on the Montero Gen2, then there must be a problem with the pedal orientation that results in SUA…

    DTI therefore opted to use Mitsubishi’s own self-initiated study, which resulted in Mitsubishi shooting themselves in the foot by formally submitting the Horiba Mira report as a point of defense…


    While I don’t agree with the DTI report, the fact that they rendered the Montero to have a defect that warrants a recall is good enough for now. The SUA reports still continue. It’s no longer being propagated by corporate media (i.e. TV, newspapers, etc.), the we still continue to get reports through social media channels…


    Many of us (including myself) who have already had settlements with Mitsubishi don’t want to see others continue to experience SUA. So we work on keeping info on this to be readily available to those who want to learn more. This awareness on SUA would help advocate much needed safety to avoid further accidents from happening…

    So in summary, I see this DTI report as a START to initiate further investigations on the matter. In that regard, it does contain some value on this issue.

    This is what the Horiba Mira report states:



    It's very clear here, "RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FURTHER WORK". The investigation must continue. But Mitsubishi just decided to use this report to prematurely claim that there is nothing wrong with their product.
    High number of incidence shows a defect in the product. Like saying high incidence of motorcycle accidents shows there's a defect with the motorcycle, not the fault of the motor rider...
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 8th, 2017 at 10:24 AM.

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    #3557
    I read the report months ago.

    While offset pedal design might increase the possibility of SUA, the problem is that there is no set standard for pedal offset in law, either here or elsewhere.

    Those who've driven certain sports cars and older rear wheel drive vehicles will know that many vehicles have strange pedal offsets. And this is not by design, but due to packaging constraints created by the transmission tunnel.

    You cannot initiate a recall for pedal offset. You would first have to show what law mandates the proper pedal offset. Then you would have to recall all vehicles with a similar offset, like the old Everest cited in the report.

    It's a stupid decision that benefits no one, because it is easily contestible in court.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #3558
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    I read the report months ago.

    While offset pedal design might increase the possibility of SUA, the problem is that there is no set standard for pedal offset in law, either here or elsewhere.

    Those who've driven certain sports cars and older rear wheel drive vehicles will know that many vehicles have strange pedal offsets. And this is not by design, but due to packaging constraints created by the transmission tunnel.

    You cannot initiate a recall for pedal offset. You would first have to show what law mandates the proper pedal offset. Then you would have to recall all vehicles with a similar offset, like the old Everest cited in the report.

    It's a stupid decision that benefits no one, because it is easily contestible in court.
    At least ngayun malinaw na wala issue sa computer box ang montero. Paano na yung claim nila ngayun na di gumagana ang brakes at brakes ang inaapakan nila.

    Bottomline is, pinagbigyan ng DTI ang consumers, bahala na ngayun ang korte na baliktarin ang decision. And any decision ng korte, it can be final and executory na unless iakyat pa sa higher courts..

    Ang tanung ko lang paps, kasi 2009 model ang sa amin.. Iba ba talaga ang pedal location ng 2009 sa 2010 to 2015 models?

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    #3559
    Grabe hanggang nagyon may mga tao pa ring hindi makaintindi na pedal misapplication ang problem. Obvious naman sa mga video na hindi inaapakan ang brake eh. Accelarator.

    And again same lang pedal ng MS at Strada nga and as mentioned (if true) na pti ibang vehicles may ganyang ding pedal position then that rules out factory defect as well. tsk tsk tsk

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    #3560
    Mr Bernardino and many other claimants still insist on SUA and not pedal misapplication.



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