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  1. Join Date
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    #2561
    This is a rather informative opinion piece from Autoindustriya:

    http://www.autoindustriya.com/editor...e-machine.html

    Of the 2.189 million automobile crashes in the United States, 94% are caused by driver error, 2% are caused by the environment (i.e. ice, fog, snow, etc.), 2% are inclonclusive, while 2% are vehicle-failure related. As the data states, 2.046 million out of the 2.189 million crashes in the U.S. are attributed driver error and were further subclassified as 41% recognition (lack of attention, distracted driving, etc.), 33% decision (overspeeding, illegal maneuvers, etc.), 11% performance error (poor directional control, etc.), 7% non-performance error (falling asleep, etc.), and 8% other causes.

    Many may find Mitsubishi's conclusions difficult to accept, and that's a given; it's the automotive equivalent of asking a parent what they think is wrong with their child. People will always suspect the findings by any manufacturer unless it's an admission of guilt, and that's precisely the reason why there must be a fully competent and credible independent body of engineers that cannot be influenced by any other entity, media included.
    While you can't say that data from the US market will be perfectly identical to what we have locally, I don't see any reasons why the trend will be drastically different. Fact of the matter is - almost all the time, it's driver error.

    It's quite ironic that those people who bash Mitsubishi, saying that "of course they won't admit it's their fault", don't seem to recognize that the same mentality applies to the Montero drivers who experienced SUA - of course they won't admit it's their fault either. It's their word vs. Mitsubishi's, and Mitsubishi has done its part in sending its best engineers to rigorously test their vehicles, not just once but several times. Meanwhile, the SUA camp has presented nothing but anecdotal evidence which are prone to bias (either the driver's recollection is muddy considering the stressful event, or the driver deliberately muddles with the truth to be able to shift the blame to anyone else but himself).

  2. Join Date
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    #2562
    Not unless you are a die hard Montero fanatic, with the same amount of money for a second hand vehicle, I doubt if the Montero sales will be the same. Truth or not, the issue is all over media. Why risk of buying something with a dark cloud over it.

    Kung bibili ng second hand vehicle, knowing the mentality of Pinoys (spending hard earned moolah), eh di dun ka na sa walang issue totoo man yan o hindi. WHY RISK? Its just a piece of metal anyway.

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    #2563
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Not unless you are a die hard Montero fanatic, with the same amount of money for a second hand vehicle, I doubt if the Montero sales will be the same. Truth or not, the issue is all over media. Why risk of buying something with a dark cloud over it.

    Kung bibili ng second hand vehicle, knowing the mentality of Pinoys (spending hard earned moolah), eh di dun ka na sa walang issue totoo man yan o hindi. WHY RISK? Its just a piece of metal anyway.
    Yes bro,- it is just like a "piece of metal", like the Strada.

    So, why do people fret on it? [Unless people here get the drift]


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  4. Join Date
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    #2564
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Not unless you are a die hard Montero fanatic, with the same amount of money for a second hand vehicle, I doubt if the Montero sales will be the same. Truth or not, the issue is all over media. Why risk of buying something with a dark cloud over it.

    Kung bibili ng second hand vehicle, knowing the mentality of Pinoys (spending hard earned moolah), eh di dun ka na sa walang issue totoo man yan o hindi. WHY RISK? Its just a piece of metal anyway.
    I agree. Kahit BS yang sua sa montero, it will really affect the resale value. Tinanim na ng abs cbn sa utak ng mga tao e. So why risk it nga

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    #2565
    Baka nga pati insurance ng Montero tumaas

  6. Join Date
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    #2566
    Just spoke to a friend who owns a 1 year old glx MT Monty. According to him eh everytime his Monty's A/C engages his rpm goes up resulting to the car lurching forward. Alisto na lang daw sya sa brake during stop and go traffic.

    Yes SUA is a legitimate concern to him.

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    #2567
    Kahit naman ako kung montero ang dina drive ganun din ang gagawin ko. Mahirap na mabulaga. Pero hanggat maari iwasan ko maging driver nyan.

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    #2568
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Not unless you are a die hard Montero fanatic, with the same amount of money for a second hand vehicle, I doubt if the Montero sales will be the same. Truth or not, the issue is all over media. Why risk of buying something with a dark cloud over it.

    Kung bibili ng second hand vehicle, knowing the mentality of Pinoys (spending hard earned moolah), eh di dun ka na sa walang issue totoo man yan o hindi. WHY RISK? Its just a piece of metal anyway.
    If someone is willing to sell me a secondhand Montero Sport for only 50% of market value, I'm game.

    Even if it is a "bedeviled" unit... as long as the insurance company paid for total repair at the dealership.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #2569
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    If someone is willing to sell me a secondhand Montero Sport for only 50% of market value, I'm game.

    Even if it is a "bedeviled" unit... as long as the insurance company paid for total repair at the dealership.
    i kidded my relative if he wanted to sell his monty now..
    and he said, "why, because some people don't know how to drive well?"

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    #2570
    Un mga nakaMontero sa min na may ibang kotse pa, ayaw na nilang gamitin un monty. Though confident naman sila sa driving skills nila, nawala naman un confidence nila sa sasakyan. Malaki talaga ang epekto.

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