Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[DannyJr]

Kailan kaya aako ng responsibilidad ang lahat ng mga SUA-claiming drivers?

[dr. d]

Kailan kaya aako ng responsibilidad ang lahat ng mga SUA-claiming drivers?

never, for some.
they honestly believe that they were stepping on the brake instead of the gas.
i should know, because i would have been one of them. except that, i remembered i had a second brake pedal to the left of my brake pedal. and i stopped an inch away from my mom's bongabilya's paso.

[oj88]

So is the pedal placements and position on the Montero a factor in all this?

[lowslowbenz]

I've seen the pedal placement of the previous generation Montero.

The brake and accelerator pedals are level with each other. I could be mistaken though .. it was just one Montero that I saw.

Brake pedal is supposed to be higher than the gas pedal.

[dr. d]

I've seen the pedal placement of the previous generation Montero.

The brake and accelerator pedals are level with each other. I could be mistaken though .. it was just one Montero that I saw.

Brake pedal is supposed to be higher than the gas pedal.

i had the same pedal issue with my lancer cedia.
i had since sold her. takaw sa gas.
sayang.. sarap pa namang manenuhin.

[leonleon]

I've seen the pedal placement of the previous generation Montero.

The brake and accelerator pedals are level with each other. I could be mistaken though .. it was just one Montero that I saw.

Brake pedal is supposed to be higher than the gas pedal.

You are talking of the 1st gen Montero? No idea about that.

But on the 2nd gen Montero, I can personally vouch that the brake pedal is definitely higher than the gas pedal as it should be. At least on my rig.

So you can rule out pedal placement.

[lowslowbenz]

^

So it must be the drivers then ...

[Monseratto]

Mitsubishi hires third-party firm to study Montero Sport SUA claims
posted June 30, 2016

Mitsubishi Motors Corporation (MMC) in Japan is in the long process of dealing and quashing one issue after the next and for now, they’ve got their sights on the Sudden Unintended Acceleration (SUA) controversy hounding the Montero Sport.

So far, only the Philippines have experienced reports of alleged SUA incidents on the previous-generation Montero Sport.

MMC chair and CEO Osamu Masuko has just announced that it has hired the services of UK-based global vehicle research and testing facility, Horiba Mira Ltd., to conduct a comprehensive test on the Montero Sport to determine if the SUA allegations have any basis whatsoever.

"The investigation has been in progress for sometime and (we expect) a report about their findings soon. We’re very sorry for these customers (that complained about the alleged SUA) and as soon as possible, we want to resolve this problem," said Masuko.

MMC tapped the services of Horiba Mira in May and have been conducting tests at the UK facility on a suspected Montero Sport vehicle from the Philippines with results expect to be released by the end of July. The testing company will also send representatives to the Philippines to conduct further inquiry as well.

The third-party investigation is at the Japanese automakers own accord and separate from the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI)'s planned testing, which has been stalled due to failure to secure a qualified bidder. Another bid might help pending the administration change.

"(So) we decided to conduct our own third party investigation," said Kato. Testing facilities from six countries – UK, Germany, Denmark, Australia, Singapore and India – were interested in the bidding, according to the DTI.

According to Masuko, the Philippines is a highly regarded market for Mitsubishi with the Montero Sport being an "very important" model in the ASEAN region. "It's very unfortuntate that this has to happen," he said.

Source: Manila Bulletin

http://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-i...ua-claims.html

and the result is...

[Monseratto]

HORIBA MIRA: World-class Vehicle Engineering, Test and Development | MIRA

[Monseratto]

Sa Manila Times na pala si Vernon...

Rant from Mits Montero SUA Club*FB

Raffy Nieto
9 hrs
One of the most vocal critics of the SUA group, Vernon Sarne, is no longer with Top Gear, but is now with another news publication. He again writes another one of his usual emotional articles describing what he claims are our group's "viscous, malicious and orchestrated" efforts to intentionally tarnish the Montero Sport's reputation. Mr. Sarne is fully entitled to be a skeptic. But to brand the SUA group's crusade as a pure DELIBERATE effort to tarnish Mitsubishi's reputation is out of line.

This SUA group is doing this crusade because we believe that this is a valid concern and we are simply trying to express it through social media. Top Gear has its own set of skeptics like Niky Tamayo and Fernan Lao. But unlike Mr. Sarne, these 2 journalists had the decency to maintain their integrity by reporting their skepticism by putting focus on their articles/posts to explain why they believe SUA wasn't real. I have not known them to accuse us of intentionally lying about SUA just to purposely tarnish Mitsubishi's reputation. For that, I personally will continue to respect them for their professionalism on this.

Going back to Mr. Sarne's article, its write-ups like these that for me incites HATE between the fanboys and the SUA believers. Believing and being concerned about SUA is one thing. But to make the fanboys believe that the SUA believers are doing this purely to try just to destroy Mitsu's reputation, is just further fanning the flames of HATE on this already heavily divided issue.

Having said that, I wish to make it clear to all the fanboys and skeptics out there that this is NO TRUTH to Mr. Sarne's accusation that we are purposely trying to lie about this SUA issue and work on "viscous, malicious and orchestrated" efforts to put a company and its product down. Thus far, we haven't had any SUA reports on the 2016 variant. That's good news and we hope that we won't need to hear any SUA reports on it. We therefore currently have nothing against their new product. But for Gen 2 / automatic variant, the SUA reports still continue and that is were our efforts are being focused on.

[Monseratto]

Will Mitsubishi still be able to fully restore the Montero Sport’s damaged reputation?
BY VERNON B. SARNE ON ON NOVEMBER 14, 2016 FAST TIMES

As I write this, the bosses of Mitsubishi Motors Philippines have just told a contingent of Filipino journalists on a trip to Japan that a UK-based vehicle testing company has cleared the Montero Sport of any defect that might lead to the so-called “sudden unintended acceleration.”

You will recall that in November last year, the accusation of SUA was revived and leveled once more at the previous-generation Montero Sport—just as the Japanese carmaker was preparing to launch the all-new model. Sudden unintended acceleration—as described by supposed “victims”—is that malfunction that causes a car to launch itself on its own even without human input. The allegation against the old Montero Sport wasn’t new; it had surfaced back in 2011, which had prompted MMPC to bring in Japanese engineers to investigate. Said engineers had found nothing.

And then last year, just before the arrival of the new Montero Sport, the SUA claims came back, and they were more vicious, more malicious and more orchestrated. Almost every day, there appeared an SUA complaint against the Montero Sport on social media, which one TV network was more than happy to pass on to its viewers. Never mind if this TV station wasn’t technically qualified to competently cover the story. In fact, they were so unfit to report the issue that they broadcast a video that was very clearly proof of driver error and not vehicle defect. (The driver claimed the vehicle wouldn’t stop even though he had been “stepping” on the brakes, but then the vehicle’s perfectly working rear brake lights never came on in the footage, indicating that the driver, as a matter of fact, hadn’t had his right foot on the brake pedal.)

More “victims” stepped forward. Things snowballed very quickly. Facebook pages were put up to unite the complainants. Countless posts featured seemingly authentic testimonies from owners of “defective” Montero Sport units. Meanwhile, my former publication (Top Gear Philippines) and I were accused of being paid apologists for Mitsubishi. We were called names for not believing in sudden unintended acceleration. They said we were simply defending an advertiser.

The issue got so big that the Department of Trade and Industry had to step in. On December 2, the agency commenced its investigation of the matter, although I have to point out that said investigation involved mostly interviews of “experts” and cross-examinations of complainants. No conclusive technical tests were conducted—nobody in the Philippines was qualified to do so, DTI admitted.

When the agency released its initial report two weeks later, it recommended that a third-party test be conducted in an electromagnetic compatibility laboratory, which apparently we didn’t have in the Philippines. They proposed searching for one overseas.

Mitsubishi was okay with the idea, even offering to shoulder the expenses for the suggested third-party test. But for one reason or another—the most significant of which was probably the scheduled presidential election in May—the plan got shelved and was all but forgotten.

So Mitsubishi went ahead and looked for a third-party evaluator on its own. DTI was supposed to be part of the process, but perhaps all the political activity in the coming months just forced it to fade away.

In June, Mitsubishi found one, a UK-based company called Horiba Mira. On its website, the firm describes itself as “a global provider of pioneering engineering, research and test services to the automotive, defense, aerospace and rail sectors. We work in close collaboration with vehicle manufacturers and suppliers around the world, providing comprehensive support ranging from individual product tests to turnkey engineering design, development and build programs.”

To cut the story short, Horiba Mira concluded its tests and found nothing wrong with the Montero Sport. I still don’t know the full details of the findings, but I’ve been told they support what I had been saying all along: SUA is a joke, professed by erring drivers who want to escape culpability, and encouraged by individuals (and companies) who have an agenda.

This whole episode was based on one blatant lie after the other, legitimized on the surface by their virality on social media. In a society teeming with gullible people, that’s good enough. And if you think about it, that’s how Donald Trump won the US presidency.

Now consider: How come we’re no longer hearing SUA complaints about the Montero Sport today? There were incidents on an almost daily basis just last year. What happened? All the units suddenly became okay? Or did the orchestrator just abandon the campaign, having already tarnished the Montero Sport’s reputation?

Whatever the reason, the damage has been done. According to my contacts at MMPC, while the new-generation Montero Sport is selling well, the numbers would definitely have been better had the SUA scandal not reared its ugly head. In many people’s minds, the Montero Sport has a history of crashing into walls on its own. And not even the exonerating result of a technical scrutiny will erase that impression. Some folks would rather believe fake news websites these days.

Will Mitsubishi still be able to fully restore the Montero Sport’s damaged reputation? - The Manila Times Online

[Ry_Tower]

Sadly some people still do not believe the science of SUA. They don't know how to man own up to their mistake ika nga.

[StockEngine]

I like manilatimes but that article is bs. Attention grabbing with no good content. Its like a paid article by tmp lol.

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[Wh1stl3r2]

Isn't stopping publicity about the issue the best way to recover from a scandal? I would think SUA is a distant memory already, seeing how many MS are sold each month. Vernon is actually doing more damage to MMPC by reviving the issue again.

[StockEngine]

I rechecked the article and it does say vernon sarne... 🤔

So my bs comment really makes sense... 🤔

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[Wh1stl3r2]

I rechecked the article and it does say vernon sarne... 🤔

So my bs comment really makes sense... 🤔

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I agree it is BS. I just can't wrap my head around how he thinks printing it will help MMPC. Hard for me to think he is somehow working for TMP or maybe Ford? now considering how vigorously he defended MMPC before.

[Monseratto]

Isn't stopping publicity about the issue the best way to recover from a scandal? I would think SUA is a distant memory already, seeing how many MS are sold each month. Vernon is actually doing more damage to MMPC by reviving the issue again.

The SUA issue came out again because of the findings of the third party hired by MMPC. Not because of Sarne... The official full report will be submitted to DTI around next week.

[Verbl Kint]

Didn't know Vernon Sarne and TGP had parted ways.

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[Wh1stl3r2]

Oh. Still I think it is best to leave the issue alone. Out of sight, out of mind. I remember Toyota's D4d woes before. They just fixed it and moved on.

[CVT]

The Energizer Bunny ..... 😉