Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[zinedrei]

the report said tapos na yung investigation sa sasakyan ni general.
may way ba to secure a copy of said investigation para naman malaman natin ang findings?

[dr. d]

the report said tapos na yung investigation sa sasakyan ni general.
may way ba to secure a copy of said investigation para naman malaman natin ang findings?

ask the good general, po.

[JJB]

Bro,- AFAIK, inhibitor switches were designed and installed to inhibit starting the vehicle, unless the lever is on P [or N(?)],- so what you are saying is kind of 'illogical' to consider.

I usually use the park lights when driving even on daytime.... Most especially if I am driving against the sun... This gives the vehicle behind me a little more information about my vehicle position and speed,- as collisions happen when rolling, too... Depends from one driver to another,- but this is me.

Again,- the video is not convincing, as the outermost running/brake lights did not light up more intensely, as pointed out by bro.niky....

What is the year model of that MS? I assume that all MS (more recent releases) have a third brake light (and with 3 bulbs which would not get busted at the same time - again, the law of probabilities or the law of being pabaya on the part of the owner... )



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The reason why i'm asking about the inhibitor switch is that I just read in the old comments that the Mitsubishi casa would point to a faulty inhibitor switch in those who are complaining that their gears get into another gear like D to N, and vice versa. So what part inhibits a gear going to the wrong position?
Actually, hyundai also has inhibitor switch and brake light switch problems too since my grand starex now has a loose gearchange (hard to put the gear into Park sometimes) and my tucson has both problems and parts have been replaced.
So if the gearchange is loose and a faulty part is the cause, then the general might have thought he was on D but it slid to R thus causing the SUA?

[Monseratto]

Brake light on.



Running light on

[Monseratto]

ABiaS CBN back to MMPC SUA bashing after the holiday hiatus

[CVT]

The reason why i'm asking about the inhibitor switch is that I just read in the old comments that the Mitsubishi casa would point to a faulty inhibitor switch in those who are complaining that their gears get into another gear like D to N, and vice versa. So what part inhibits a gear going to the wrong position?
Actually, hyundai also has inhibitor switch and brake light switch problems too since my grand starex now has a loose gearchange (hard to put the gear into Park sometimes) and my tucson has both problems and parts have been replaced.
So if the gearchange is loose and a faulty part is the cause, then the general might have thought he was on D but it slid to R thus causing the SUA?

Bro.,- luckily, I have not experienced that inhibitor switch issue and loose gearchange issue on our GS, and our other AT rides.... [One of my siblings, who drives a Tucson, also has not experienced those]

I am confused though, if the good general thought that he was on D, but slid it to R,- what's the connection of this, with the SUA [which I assume is out of control of the driver- meaning vehicle-related]?


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[Djerms]

the report said tapos na yung investigation sa sasakyan ni general.
may way ba to secure a copy of said investigation para naman malaman natin ang findings?

Kung nanahimik na si general...alam na this. :p

[glenn manikis]

Baka nag sign na Ng, quit claim Si general..?

[JJB]

Bro,- AFAIK, inhibitor switches were designed and installed to inhibit starting the vehicle, unless the lever is on P [or N(?)],- so what you are saying is kind of 'illogical' to consider.

I usually use the park lights when driving even on daytime.... Most especially if I am driving against the sun... This gives the vehicle behind me a little more information about my vehicle position and speed,- as collisions happen when rolling, too... Depends from one driver to another,- but this is me.

Again,- the video is not convincing, as the outermost running/brake lights did not light up more intensely, as pointed out by bro.niky....

What is the year model of that MS? I assume that all MS (more recent releases) have a third brake light (and with 3 bulbs which would not get busted at the same time - again, the law of probabilities or the law of being pabaya on the part of the owner... )



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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the report said tapos na yung investigation sa sasakyan ni general.
may way ba to secure a copy of said investigation para naman malaman natin ang findings?

Bro.,- luckily, I have not experienced that inhibitor switch issue and loose gearchange issue on our GS, and our other AT rides.... [One of my siblings, who drives a Tucson, also has not experienced those]

I am confused though, if the good general thought that he was on D, but slid it to R,- what's the connection of this, with the SUA [which I assume is out of control of the driver- meaning vehicle-related]?


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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Might have started with a faulty and loose gearchange that would put D to R, startling the good general and ends up with unintended reverse of the vehicle. but still doesnt explain why the sudden acceleration in reverse then forwards ( which looks like driver error)

Second driver, johnny ko also claims that he had SUA going reverse first then forwards after. Bakit may pattern?

[micro24]

Might have started with a faulty and loose gearchange that would put D to R, startling the good general and ends up with unintended reverse of the vehicle. but still doesnt explain why the sudden acceleration in reverse then forwards ( which looks like driver error)

Second driver, johnny ko also claims that he had SUA going reverse first then forwards after. Bakit may pattern?

Sudden Unintended Acceleration and Gear Shifting.

[niky]

Might have started with a faulty and loose gearchange that would put D to R, startling the good general and ends up with unintended reverse of the vehicle. but still doesnt explain why the sudden acceleration in reverse then forwards ( which looks like driver error)

Second driver, johnny ko also claims that he had SUA going reverse first then forwards after. Bakit may pattern?

Inhibitor switch failure will not swap the gates around. That would require yet another separate failure involving the shifter itself.

[CVT]

Might have started with a faulty and loose gearchange that would put D to R, startling the good general and ends up with unintended reverse of the vehicle. but still doesnt explain why the sudden acceleration in reverse then forwards ( which looks like driver error)

Second driver, johnny ko also claims that he had SUA going reverse first then forwards after. Bakit may pattern?

Bro - Then it is not anymore sudden unintended acceleration or SUA.

It is now sudden unintended gear-ing...or SUG...( Resulting in reckless imprudence )...

Again, inhibitor switch will not allow you to start/run the engine unless you are in P or N(?).. So not sure why this is related in the SUA or SUG.

The mystery deepens and the plot thickens...

Kanin pa more....

[Belahans]

honestly i cant tell which light is on, the running lights or the brake lights due to the low quality of the image. but i have proven that you cant see the third brake light through dark tints, you cant use the third brake light as the basis on this case.

[micro24]

honestly i cant tell which light is on, the running lights or the brake lights due to the low quality of the image. but i have proven that you cant see the third brake light through dark tints, you cant use the third brake light as the basis on this case.

nag back read ka naba bro? nandon yong reply ko sayo dati pa Page 334.
disregard mo na yong 3rd brake light sa taas pero you can't miss the "Outer part are the brake lights" kahit pa medyo side view still very visible ang brake lights "Inner part naman sa tail gate yong running lights"

review mo yong video ni general pause mo sa 00:14
at yong video sa screenshot mo nandon sa page 334 nandon yong reply ko at pause mo sa 1:00 for comparison.

[baludoy]

read this last friday

FOREIGN FIRMS VIE FOR CONTRACT TO TEST ON MONTERO
February 19, 2016

Eight international companies have expressed interest to conduct the full-vehicle tests on the Mitsubishi Montero Sport automatic variant to determine the causes of alleged sudden unintended acceleration on some units.

These are CSA Group Bayern and SGS Germany, both of Germany; EMC Bayswater Pty Ltd of Australia; Element Materials Technology and 3C Test Limited of the United Kingdom; TÜV SÜD of Singapore; DELTA Danish Electronics of Denmark and International Centre for Automotive Technology of India.

Victorio Mario Dimagiba, undersecretary of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), in a press conference yesterday said the DTI’s final report – after validation of three individual experts it hired – would be made public by the end of May.

The DTI-bids and awards committee has started issuing invitations to bid for the identification of the laboratory that will test the Montero at the lowest calculated bid. The pre-bid conference is set on February 24 and the notice of award follows a month after.

The contract will be signed March 31, the notice to proceed on April 1. The receipt of the test results is set on May 23.


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Foreign*firms vie for contract to test on Montero | Malaya Business Insight

[niky]

I'm wondering who the DTI's experts are.

My beef with the last round of tests was that their experts asked for the wrong tests... either too simplistic or too out there.

Now it turns out, according to the SUA club, that the DTI is still going to be the one to design the tests carried out by the third party... in other words... this is a "third party investigation" only in the sense that neither the DTI nor Mitsubishi will be performing the physical tests themselves.

[altec]

re the general's montero, anong year model daw ito? Before 2012 or older? Kasi kung ipakabit yung para di matanggal from park kung di inapak ang brake pedal, maraming incidents ang mawawala. Magkano ba ang cost kung ipakabit sa older models?

[agrimensor]

Ang clutch ba ng MS ay mechanical o sensor type?

[JJB]

I'm wondering who the DTI's experts are.

My beef with the last round of tests was that their experts asked for the wrong tests... either too simplistic or too out there.

Now it turns out, according to the SUA club, that the DTI is still going to be the one to design the tests carried out by the third party... in other words... this is a "third party investigation" only in the sense that neither the DTI nor Mitsubishi will be performing the physical tests themselves.

Why don't they follow how regulators investigated Toyota, Lexus et al when they had SUA incidents in the US? Or is it because the companies admitted they had faulty components early in the investigations?

[niky]

Why don't they follow how regulators investigated Toyota, Lexus et al when they had SUA incidents in the US? Or is it because the companies admitted they had faulty components early in the investigations?

They still investigated other possibilities after Toyota claimed to have solved the issue with the sticky pedal and floormat fix. A lot of money was spent investigating electronic accelerators and PCM code. And even then, nothing concrete came out of those investigations... and some of the "experts" who came out were proven to be frauds (like the guy who demonstrated a "short circuit" that could cause runaway acceleration... yeah... one that required multiple rewirings of the assembly and a very specific resistor to be applied between the two sensors).

The only concrete evidence of any problems came after the investigation closed... and even then, it was one that showed mostly that the brake failsafe programming would not stop a runaway throttle condition. It could not, by design, prove the probability of such a condition occuring in the first place... which is why it is being settled in civil courts instead of criminal courts.