Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

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Otherwise, Mr Bernandino doesn't know what he is talking about, just guessing on the little knowledge he knows at proclaming it as fact. Ignoramous

Heto siya for our recollection - dating DPWH engineer....

If he is an engineer,- he should have a fairly good understanding of the electricals in the car, and how they interact with each other.

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Heto siya for our recollection - dating DPWH engineer....

If he is an engineer,- he should have a fairly good understanding of the electricals in the car, and how they interact with each other.

Is he an engineer or a lawyer or both like Atty-Engr Vitangcol?

Koko to bring Mitsubishi 'Montero' controversy to Senate - Politiko

Engineer Bernardino Bernardo, a retired employee of the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), sustained minor burns while his wife Avelina, got a fractured right arm when their Montero SUV abruptly sped up even before the engineer had his foot on the accelerator.

Montero Sport ‘victims’ share their stories; UK expert weighs in - CNN Philippines

Montero ‘gone wild’
Complainant Atty. Bernardino Bernardo and his wife were on their white Montero Sport in a parking lot when their car suddenly accelerated and “went wild”, rammed and dragged the parked tricycles which were completely destroyed.

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Lalong babagsak sales ng montero pag tumagal ang senate inquiry.

Magkakantiyawan mga ahente jan.

[H1Tman]

Bakit kasi hinayaan ni PNoy mabenta dito yang Montero with SUA?

[niky]

Mr. Benardino's theory why brake lights don't work in a SUA incident other than the driver wasn't stepping on the brakes...

Unfortunately, the Montero's tail-lights are filament type. Even with low voltage, they will still work.

And the voltage fluctuation is temporary. Once the engine is revving to high heaven, there will be more than enough current to run the lights.

[dr. d]

Unfortunately, the Montero's tail-lights are filament type. Even with low voltage, they will still work.

And the voltage fluctuation is temporary. Once the engine is revving to high heaven, there will be more than enough current to run the lights.

good point.

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Kelan na start senate inquiry?

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Natawa ako doon sa wallpaper ng facebook mitsubishi philippines sua group.....

Mitsubishi Montero Sport SUA Info Group Public Group | Facebook

Sama loob montero owner bagsak resale value....

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Bigla pala binawi ng mitsubishi yung nagpausapan.

Marunong ito si raffy nieto....


Charles dycoco

Sudden unintended acceleration, Actual road test.

SUA can be easily reproducted in periodic low voltage.
"Forensic Science International 267 (2016) 35–41"
"Experimental study for the reproduction of sudden unintended
acceleration incidents"

Study/Source: Forensic Science International

Observations: The TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) is already 100% position (meaning Wide Open Throttle - WOT), but the driver's foot (on gas pedal) didn't even move (as you can see on the video, APS (Accelerator Position Sensor) = 34% to 35%).

Normal operation: Ideal TPS response should be equal to APS: TPS = APS.

Abnormal operation (in case of SUA): sudden increase in TPS until 100%, but no change in APS input (gas pedal).

Glenn Manikis Charles dycoco... i think its better fir your group to conduct tje same test on a montero vehicle... para makita ng lahat na possible sa montero ang sua.. or any vehicle with ECU..... ang dami kasing bashers ng page na ito... para magka alaman na... kung may SUA ba talaga sa Monty or wala...

i think naman meron kayong donor vehicle na pwedeng gamitin sa dami ng Naka monty na nagreklamo paps...

Charles Dycoco Raffy Nieto what do you think?
Like · 1 · April 21 at 8:26am

Glenn Manikis And you can also invite mitsubishi, DTI, Montero Club, team or group, Abs GMA, Tulfo, also invite the frequent possers here... on your testing day... para All is fair... and all can witness the testing....
Like · 2 · April 21 at 11:03am

Toto Varela Glenn Manikis, it is not the burden of this group to prove to you there is SUA in a Montero. They took it upon themselves to WARN you unbelievers so that no harm will come to you and let Mitsubishi pay for correction, recall if needed, and accept respo...See More
Like · 1 · April 22 at 7:02pm

Glenn Manikis Toto Varela this group is accusing mitsubishi of SUA.... just put your words into action.... What this page lacks is TECHNICAL evidence..... this is your chance.... to put the final nail in the coffin...
Like · 1 · April 22 at 9:35pm

Raffy Nieto Glenn Manikis, It's been long suspected that the cause of SUA is the result of an ETC (Electronic Throttle Control) glitch in its design. The ETC is software controlled. So there is NOTHING to VISUALIZE or examine...
Like · April 23 at 7:49pm

Raffy Nieto ...Mitsu has been constantly arguing that if SUA occurs, there should be PHYSICAL evidence that can be seen to show what is causing it. Just like when you're smart phone hangs, you won't find anything physically wrong with it. All you need to do is restart it and its back to normal...
Like · April 23 at 7:50pm

Raffy Nieto ...Because its very convenient for the auto company to blame the driver for pedal misapplication, then its easy for them to ignore the existence of a problem on their product, until an authorized entity (i.e. DTI) will FORCE them to do something about it...
Like · April 23 at 7:50pm

Raffy Nieto ... Consumers and experts like Dr. Belt & Anderson are left on their own to try to figure out the problem. In a good majority of these studies, the problems seem to point out to a common trigger, LOW VOLTAGE on the car battery...
Like · April 23 at 7:51pm

Raffy Nieto ... So what's the connection with low battery voltage and SUA? Dr. Belt was able to derive a theory that makes sense and match nearly all the characteristics of a SUA event. It is this theory that we wanted to put to a test...
Like · April 23 at 7:51pm

Raffy Nieto ... When DTI was pushed by Congress to conduct a formal investigation, we proposed that Dr. Belt's theory be tested. Fast forward to multiple discussions with DTI and Mitsu, we managed to come into a clear AGREEMENT to conduct Dr. Belt's test...
Like · April 23 at 7:52pm

Raffy Nieto ... Now one very important point to testing this theory was that SUA gets triggered when the ECU incorrectly detects the wrong low voltage and triggers the engine to go on full throttle w/o needing to press on the AC pedal...
Like · April 23 at 7:52pm

Raffy Nieto ... We needed to know EXACTLY what part of the engine does the ECU take a voltage sampling from. We know that such function exists, because the way it works is clearly shown in the auto manufacturer's technical documentation...
Like · April 23 at 7:52pm

Raffy Nieto ... What the docs don't show is WHERE such voltage sampling takes place. This was the very important piece of info that we were asking from Mitsubishi. Because without knowing where such sampling takes place, it will be complete trial and error for us to do the test...
Like · April 23 at 7:53pm

Raffy Nieto ... When we asked for this piece of info, there was no argument or question from Mitsubishi. All we knew next was that DTI sends us a letter throwing us out of any discussions...
Like · April 23 at 7:53pm

Raffy Nieto ... The earlier agreement to jointly define and conduct the test has completely collapsed. So we are back to sticking only to a theory because we still don't have any info on where to inject this negative voltage on the engine for us to test Dr. Belt's theory...
Like · April 23 at 7:54pm

Raffy Nieto ... Now think about this for a moment. If Mitsubishi provides this crucial info that we are asking for, we do the test and the test FAILS, wouldn't that have been a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for Mitsubishi to prove us wrong? Kaming mapaphiya, diba?...
Like · 1 · April 23 at 7:54pm

Raffy Nieto ... So bat hindi natuloy? Why didn't Mitsubishi want to support that such simple test be conducted? If the test failed, the would have had the best PR weapon to prove us wrong...
Like · 1 · April 23 at 7:54pm

Raffy Nieto ...Instead Mitsu chose to spend millions to hire Horiba Mira to use their report as their PR weapon, which strangely DENIES the existence of a voltage compensation function despite the manufacturer's documentation saying otherwise...
Like · 1 · April 23 at 7:54pm

Raffy Nieto ... So again, why will Mitsu chose to evade from releasing the info that we need about their product to allow such test to happen? For me, I can only speculate that they have something to HIDE. There is something about this specific test that is prompting them to push back from it taking place.
Like · April 23 at 7:54pm

Glenn Manikis Bottom line sir... mitsubishi nor dti wont do the testing...

Kaya your group is the only one that should conduct the testing... ...See More
Like · April 23 at 8:11pm

Charles Dycoco Glenn Manikis dapat ang DTI ang nagbibigay protection sa mga consumer... pero sa nangyari, sino kaya ang pinapanigan ng DTI? Ang mga consumer ba or ang negosyante?
Like · April 23 at 8:57pm

Glenn Manikis Wala na tau magagawa dun.. its beyond our control..

We should or your grp. Should focus on what you can do...
Like · April 23 at 9:37pm

Raffy Nieto Glenn Manikis, Your point is duly noted. Now if Mitsubishi REFUSES to entertain the concerns of their consumers on this issue by NOT WANTING TO SUPPORT such test from being conducted, then there is NOTHING TO STOP US from continuing this info campaign on this alleged SUA problem on the Montero…
Like · April 24 at 7:22am

Raffy Nieto …I already explained to here that is NOT LIKE we don’t want to do the test on our own, but WE CAN’T because we of specific info that we were lacking to do it. That is why we were going through the proper process of coursing this through DTI…
Like · April 24 at 7:22am

Raffy Nieto …Take note that there was already a CLEAR AGREEMENT with ALL PARTIES to do this test. We already were working on it together, then binawi nila. So are we just supposed to accept it for what is and just shut up because they no longer want to support doing the test?...
Like · April 24 at 7:22am

Raffy Nieto …It’s very clear to all those within the concerned public that they want CLOSURE on this SUA issue. Am sure Mitsubishi wants closure on this too because they want to sell more cars…
Like · April 24 at 7:22am

Raffy Nieto … But instead, they chose to spend millions on a PR campaign just so that they can avoid providing support to its customers on doing a simple test that can hopefully give them such closure.
Like · April 24 at 7:23am

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Raffy Nieto
April 4
… Compensation was mostly done on those victims that have filed their cases in court. At least 33 victims were compensated with Buy Back settlements. All these things I’m explaining have been well documented in their FB Info site.




Bernardino Bernardo Rico Mostrado et al, kung ang insidenteng ito sa video ay Pedal Misapplication / Drivers error,,, Bakit binayaran ng Mitsubishi ang may ari nito kapalit ng pagpirma sa kasunduan na mananahimik sya at hindi nagsasalita tungkol sa isyu ng SUA ng Montero? Bakit hindi ginagawa ito ng Mitsubishi sa Adventure, L300, Pajero etc?
Like · 1 · April 6 at 9:33am

Charles Dycoco Thats a practical financial decision when the cost of buy-back is way cheaper than a recall.

For example, 33 units were bought back at 1.5M pesos per unit that will cost 49.5M.

While if they are going to recall the 90,000++ units and do a fix/repair that will cost them (for example) 5000 pesos per unit, thats a total of 450M pesos.

Syempre ang company gusto nila mkatipid, dun na sila sa 49.5M.

How about the damages to properties, the lives involved, etc? Sasabihin ng company na, meron naman insurance. Let the insurance handle it at lusot na sila sa liabilities.
Like · April 6 at 10:20am · Edited

Bernardino Bernardo Yung pagpapirma sa kasunduan kapalit ng bayad, hindi ba iyon ay pagtatago ng Katotohanan, panlilinlang sa taong bayan?
Like · 1 · April 6 at 10:26am

Charles Dycoco Notorious ang mitsubishi (and other companies) sa pagtago ng defects...
Like · 1 · April 6 at 10:31am

Bernardino Bernardo Exactly, at ang pangunahing dahilan ay GREED,,, KASAKIMAN,,, at ang kagawaran ( DTI ) na taon taon ay pinopondohan ng bilyun bilyong pisong pera ng bayan para bigyang proteksyon ang mamamayan laban sa mga SAKIM ay nagbibingi bingihan at bulag bulagan
Like · 1 · April 6 at 11:07am