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i wouldn't risk safety of my family kung may issue na ganyan.. dapat wag muna gamitin yung sasakyan hanggang hindi napapalitan yang fuel pump.

[mcoy123]

didn't i already cite example of a situation wherein just having the ability to steer doesnt solve the conundrum of safety?

But that was my only concern, I've been actively driving since i was in hs, i'll be 47 this year. . I drive vehicles as big as a fuso fighter to as small as a minicab(still own both) and vehicles in between. . I know i'll be safe when i can steer and brake my way out.
Mitsubishi needs toaddress this issue as there are already a very significant amount of unexperienced drivers on the road today who doesn't know to stay out of harm's way when something goes wrong in their vehicles

[17Sphynx17]

But that was my only concern, I've been actively driving since i was in hs, i'll be 47 this year. . I drive vehicles as big as a fuso fighter to as small as a minicab(still own both) and vehicles in between. . I know i'll be safe when i can steer and brake my way out.
Mitsubishi needs toaddress this issue as there are already a very significant amount of unexperienced drivers on the road today who doesn't know to stay out of harm's way when something goes wrong in their vehicles

Then given the 2 situations I gave, can you guarantee your passengers' safety with your experience?

Yes, we know there is a lot of inexperienced drivers. But this is a complete engine shutdown. There is very little experience can help you with if you can't power your way out of harm's way. I believe you'd agree with that statement, correct>

[Egan101]

Kung EPS, di oobra yung steering kung off yung engine. Even if the car ACC is just on, EPS still will not activate (I think).


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[mcoy123]

Then given the 2 situations I gave, can you guarantee your passengers safety as well with your experience?

Yes, we know there is a lot of inexperienced drivers. But this is a complete engine shutdown. There is very little experience can help you with if you can't power your way out of harm's way. I believe you'd agree with that statement, correct>

If i'm safe. . . They woukd be.. . Providef i can steer and brake

[17Sphynx17]

If i'm safe. . . They woukd be.. . Providef i can steer and brake

Then nothing I can say except you are quite confident, even in a passing situation or hillclimb when it happens to you. Good luck and be safe.

[Little Missy]

i wouldn't risk safety of my family kung may issue na ganyan.. dapat wag muna gamitin yung sasakyan hanggang hindi napapalitan yang fuel pump.

Tsk. My sister owns one issued June 2018. I told her about this pero di pa naman daw niya naexperience.

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[mcoy123]

Sample situation ba need as to the gravity of the problem?

1) Overtaking/Passing Lane ka sa NLEX/SLEX/SCTEX/TPLEX bigla ka inabutan ng issue? Makabig mo ba kaagad to the shoulder to keep safe with all other vehicles approaching you from behind at least running around 100kph?

2) Paakyat ka ng Bundok, Steep Slope na paahon (sharp turn man or hindi) inabutan ka "in the middle of nowhere"? Kasama mo pamilya mo? Issue?

A car dying when it shouldn't is an issue. If it was a maintenance issue on the part of the owner, I would understand. If it was isolated issue of a premature failure for just one or two owners, maybe. Unintended consequence of being forced to top up with a questionable source of fuel.

But if it is a known issue, then we have a problem that can lead to a loss of life or property.

Pasensya na hijo. . Nasa ruta ako kanina. With the premise that i can still steer the vehicle ha.

1. If the car dies at nasa overtaking lane ka, you won't stop from 100-0kph in 2secs even if you brake hard. What ypu do is tap on your brakes lightly to let the guys be awate of your presence, signal to the right. . If you can it's best to also use hand signals. Do not push on the brakes . . Sayang momentum. . If pakiramdam mo di kaya ng utak mo na tumawid though unsafe signal to the left shoulder meron pa rin naman konti space. . . Come to a complete stop. . . Turn on your hazard lights. . Get out of your vehicle stay away from your vehicle opposite the direction of traffic. . . Wait for the towing service or the patrols.

2. Paakyat ka ng bundok, waht's the issue here. . . Pull to the side of the road. . Kung ubos na momentum. . . Back up your vehicle. . D ka naman bubungguin ng mga kasabay mo sa daan.

Remember tayong mga motorista is not out to get each other .as much as possible iiwasan natin mga aksidente. That is the natural reaction. . .self preservation

[mcoy123]

There is very little experience can help you with if you can't power your way out of harm's way. I believe you'd agree with that statement, correct>

Sorry i do not agree with this. . D kailangan ng power everytime. . That is of the power you're referring is accelarating or moving forward. ..ika nga ni pirelli. . Power is nothing without control

[17Sphynx17]

Pasensya na hijo. . Nasa ruta ako kanina. With the premise that i can still steer the vehicle ha.

1. If the car dies at nasa overtaking lane ka, you won't stop from 100-0kph in 2secs even if you brake hard. What ypu do is tap on your brakes lightly to let the guys be awate of your presence, signal to the right. . If you can it's best to also use hand signals. Do not push on the brakes . . Sayang momentum. . If pakiramdam mo di kaya ng utak mo na tumawid though unsafe signal to the left shoulder meron pa rin naman konti space. . . Come to a complete stop. . . Turn on your hazard lights. . Get out of your vehicle stay away from your vehicle opposite the direction of traffic. . . Wait for the towing service or the patrols.

2. Paakyat ka ng bundok, waht's the issue here. . . Pull to the side of the road. . Kung ubos na momentum. . . Back up your vehicle. . D ka naman bubungguin ng mga kasabay mo sa daan.

Remember tayong mga motorista is not out to get each other .as much as possible iiwasan natin mga aksidente. That is the natural reaction. . .self preservation

Regarding #1, there is not always space on the left side of the road. If on the right side, sure perfectly fine. I think the narrowest "Expressway" we have is currently NAIAX. So there, difficult but possible since it is two lanes in most sections. I wouldn't say it is safe. Yes, it shouldn't come to a complete stop. I have only suffered engine shutdown when near parking areas or crawling traffic so "speed of other vehicles" wasn't really an issue for me to "get out of the way".

But I would like to ask re #1, if it is an automatic and it is in Drive when the Engine Dies, does the transmission slow you down when it the engine shuts off? It hasn't happened to me in a situation at speed so I'm not sure. With a manual, should the transmission give that resistance, then shifting to Neutral is possible.

Regarding #2, it is not just about being uphill. But you also have to see the statement mentions, you are in an unfamiliar area or "middle of nowhere" when it happens. About trying to use the downhill slope to get back down, you will slowly lose brake pressure with repeated application as the pump isn't working, right?

In sharp turns where the corner is somewhat a blind corner, it is a risk as well.

That is why this is an issue, the driver has no control of "when it shuts down and where".

Yes, Power is nothing without control. But for this specific situation, you need power to "get out of the way".