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    #4741
    Quote Originally Posted by Gijoe_ View Post
    May mga kilala din ako na may blank at wala blang ang egr pero same pa din naman tapos as per my friend na naka blank egr na gen 2 mas lumakas daw ang fuel consumption and check the video of berima why they dont recommend egr blanking. Kaya lang naman nag blank para fi magmanifold ng oil pero if you have good occ di na mag manifold yan. Imho


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    ano po yung magmanifold ng oil? baka you mean para hindi mapunta yung oil sa manifold. wala pong kinalaman yung EGR sa oil na napupunta sa manifold. yung oil po ay galing sa blow by gas na kasama galing sa crankcase. yan yung sinasalo ng oil catch can o occ na tinatawag.

    yung EGR naman po, ang function ay sini-circulate niya yung ibang portion ng exhaust gas para ibalik sa combustion chamber para daw lumamig konti ang combustion temperature at maiwasan na magprodyus ng NoX na harmful sa environment. since ibinabalik ang ang ibang exhaust gas, nababawasan ang efficiency ng pagsunog ng krudo kaya resulta mausok ang makina ng montero. kapag nag blank, binabarahan lang yung linya ng pabalik na exhaust gas pero buhay pa rin yung EGR and hindi disabled else mag CEL. since hindi na-dilute yung Air/Fuel mixture ng exhaust gas kaya gumaganda ang pagsunog at nawawala ang usok.

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    #4742
    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    ano po yung magmanifold ng oil? baka you mean para hindi mapunta yung oil sa manifold. wala pong kinalaman yung EGR sa oil na napupunta sa manifold. yung oil po ay galing sa blow by gas na kasama galing sa crankcase. yan yung sinasalo ng oil catch can o occ na tinatawag.

    yung EGR naman po, ang function ay sini-circulate niya yung ibang portion ng exhaust gas para ibalik sa combustion chamber para daw lumamig konti ang combustion temperature at maiwasan na magprodyus ng NoX na harmful sa environment. since ibinabalik ang ang ibang exhaust gas, nababawasan ang efficiency ng pagsunog ng krudo kaya resulta mausok ang makina ng montero. kapag nag blank, binabarahan lang yung linya ng pabalik na exhaust gas pero buhay pa rin yung EGR and hindi disabled else mag CEL. since hindi na-dilute yung Air/Fuel mixture ng exhaust gas kaya gumaganda ang pagsunog at nawawala ang usok.
    Gen 3 di na maitim usok like gen 2 as we already use euro 4 fuel.



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    #4743
    would anyone know if the part nuypmber of the fuel filter is the same for the new Montero and the previous gen? alam ko element type na din yung new Montero.

    thanks

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    #4744
    Quote Originally Posted by Gijoe_ View Post
    Gen 3 di na maitim usok like gen 2 as we already use euro 4 fuel.



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    so why is the oil catch can, not a regular, factory-installed item?

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    #4745
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    so why is the oil catch can, not a regular, factory-installed item?
    I dont know even sa other car brand wala siya check youtube or the internet dami naglalagay


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    #4746
    Are there diesel engines that still work well after say 5 years even without OCC installed?

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    #4747
    Quote Originally Posted by Head-On View Post
    Are there diesel engines that still work well after say 5 years even without OCC installed?
    mine is 11 years old, and still drives as well as i remember it the first year.
    my other one is 5 years old and drives like it was new.

    perhaps it is because today's fuels are cleaner now than before.

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    #4748
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    mine is 11 years old, and still drives as well as i remember it the first year.
    my other one is 5 years old and drives like it was new.

    perhaps it is because today's fuels are cleaner now than before.
    Nice to hear that sir, how do you maintain your diesel cars? Do you have any secrets you can share? (Maybe this needs a new thread already pala)

    BTT (2016 Montero OCC):
    Upon reading this, maybe we can consider the OCC as optional then? Depending on how OC we are with our engine and of course if budget permits

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    #4749
    Quote Originally Posted by Head-On View Post
    Nice to hear that sir, how do you maintain your diesel cars? Do you have any secrets you can share?

    BTT:
    Upon reading this, maybe we can consider the OCC as optional then? Depending on how OC we are with our engine and of course if budget permits
    oil change every 5K. mineral oil only.
    grandfather (not stockinger)-style driving.
    factory-stock everything.

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    #4750
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    oil change every 5K. mineral oil only.
    grandfather (not stockinger)-style driving.
    factory-stock everything.
    Thanks for the info sir.

    2015 Eve here nakisawsaw lang sa OCC topic para sa new Monty, congrats and enjoy your rides po mga sir and mam

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    #4751
    Quote Originally Posted by Head-On View Post
    Nice to hear that sir, how do you maintain your diesel cars? Do you have any secrets you can share? (Maybe this needs a new thread already pala)

    BTT (2016 Montero OCC):
    Upon reading this, maybe we can consider the OCC as optional then? Depending on how OC we are with our engine and of course if budget permits
    I only had my OCC installed recently on my Navara. It is running a lot smoother now. Methinks the oil vapor from the crank case was the cause. It is 9 years old and a lot of oil was washed out when they cleaned the IC.

    For me the best one is still Provent. The design jist won't let any oil into the outlet, and having a drain at the bottom, you can plumb the oil back to the crank case or drain the oil if you prefer. It also has a bypass valve which opens to let the air through just in case the filter gets clogged.

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    #4752
    Quote Originally Posted by Head-On View Post
    Are there diesel engines that still work well after say 5 years even without OCC installed?
    Yung alterra namin mag 8 yrs na sa nov. More than 100k natakbo wala occ. My innova going 4.5yrs 80k mileage wala rin occ. Di naman ma usok at nag ka problem.

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    #4753
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    so why is the oil catch can, not a regular, factory-installed item?

    Because it is not necessary? or not cost effective? ... If we go by the premise that today's fuels are more advanced and cleaner, then why didn't old cars have oil catch cans before? ...

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    #4754
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Because it is not necessary? or not cost effective? ... If we go by the premise that today's fuels are more advanced and cleaner, then why didn't old cars have oil catch cans before? ...
    Makes sense!


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    #4755
    Necessary is such a relative term. If you want your car to last for a really long time and to run as smoothly as possible, I suggest it is worth a look. You only need to unplug your breather hose to see how much oil is dripping there. More damning is the intercooler. You'd be surprised at how much oil collects there after a few thousand Kms.

    If you are the sort who sells after a few years, it may not be necessary.

    As to why they are not fitted from factory, cost is the number one consideration. And the possible issues occuring a long time past the warranty period makes it unnecessary for the manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Necessary is such a relative term. If you want your car to last for a really long time and to run as smoothly as possible, I suggest it is worth a look. You only need to unplug your breather hose to see how much oil is dripping there. More damning is the intercooler. You'd be surprised at how much oil collects there after a few thousand Kms.

    If you are the sort who sells after a few years, it may not be necessary.

    As to why they are not fitted from factory, cost is the number one consideration. And the possible issues occuring a long time past the warranty period makes it unnecessary for the manufacturer.
    Hypothesis mo lang yan bro. Wala oil catch can majority ng mga sasakyan na tumatakbo, turbo charged or naturally aspirated. Baka nga walang 1% ng population ng isang car model ang meron nakainstall, pero bakit takbo pa rin ng takbo. Susme, it all boils down kung paano ka mag maintain ng sasakyan mo. May OCC ka nga balahura ka naman mag palit ng oil. Di mo yan kailangan, all you need is proper change oil and follow the suggested periodic maintenance.

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    #4757
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Because it is not necessary? or not cost effective? ...
    Long time ago, yung mga sasakyan na binebenta sa Pilipinas (hello lancer boxtype) walang rear passenger seatbelts, at walang side mirrors (except for driver side lang ata).

    So were seatbelts and side mirrors useless accessories, considering they were not "factory installed" back then in the Philippines? I don't think so.

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    #4758
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Long time ago, yung mga sasakyan na binebenta sa Pilipinas (hello lancer boxtype) walang rear passenger seatbelts, at walang side mirrors (except for driver side lang ata).

    So were seatbelts and side mirrors useless accessories, considering they were not "factory installed" back then in the Philippines? I don't think so.
    Haha ayos logic mo bro ah.. remember long time ago Kabayo lang gamit..


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    #4759
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Long time ago, yung mga sasakyan na binebenta sa Pilipinas (hello lancer boxtype) walang rear passenger seatbelts, at walang side mirrors (except for driver side lang ata).

    So were seatbelts and side mirrors useless accessories, considering they were not "factory installed" back then in the Philippines? I don't think so.
    Long time ago yun, di pa uso ang "lawsuit". At di pa uso ang crash test dummies.

    Ngayun na pwede mo na isimulate kahit performance ng makina at pwede mo i-burn in test mo ang makina habang sangkatutak ng sensors nakasalpak, bakit di pa rin nila maisipan amg factory install nyan?

    Lahat ng feature halos ilagay na sa sasakyan, bakit di yan ilagay? ngayun pa na golden age of mass production, kulangot lang yan.
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    #4760
    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    Long time ago, yung mga sasakyan na binebenta sa Pilipinas (hello lancer boxtype) walang rear passenger seatbelts, at walang side mirrors (except for driver side lang ata).

    So were seatbelts and side mirrors useless accessories, considering they were not "factory installed" back then in the Philippines? I don't think so.
    Ang layo naman ng comparison mo. Makina ang pinag uusapan dito not the additional aesthetics/interior safety features.

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