^That's because there's no balance of power. Only an armed citizenry is a free society
^That's because there's no balance of power. Only an armed citizenry is a free society
Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
Both this school and the movie theater shootings were via legally obtained guns.
Wait and see if Obama will be able to provide the political will to do some changes, to put a stop on these senseless killings.
For our country, both responsible gun owners, and non gun owners should agree to fix this corruption in the country's gun control.
One way maybe is to hold the dealer and psycho test conductor, criminally liable, if the person they sold the gun to / psychologically cleared for gun ownership, performed a criminal act with the gun they acquired through them?
RIP to the victims
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Interesting comparison. There's also an attack in a school in China today. But due to strict gun control, the psycho only attacked with a knife. No deaths, but only serious injuries,,,
Hong Kong (CNN) -- On Friday morning, a man walked through the entrance of an elementary school and, without warning, began ruthlessly cutting down children at the school. Before he was subdued, nearly two dozen were hit.
While it sounds like the horrific massacre in Connecticut, this attack took place about 8,000 miles away in central China. And while several of the victims were reported in critical condition, none of the 22 children were killed. The 36-year-old suspect in China -- which has strict gun control laws -- attacked the children with a knife, according to local reports.
"The huge difference between this case and the U.S. is not the suspect, nor the situation, but the simple fact he did not have an effective weapon," said Dr. Ding Xueliang, a Harvard-educated sociologist at the University of Science and Technology in Hong Kong.
"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year, in similar countries like Germany 170 (killed with guns), in Canada 150. There's a reason for that," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, told CNN's Piers Morgan.
"The proof in the pudding is that in every other industrialized nation except the United States, they have reasonable gun control laws, and they have hundreds of people killed each year -- not 9,000 or 10,000 a year -- killed by guns."
The United States has, by far, the highest rate of gun ownership in the world, with 88.8 guns per 100 people, followed by Serbia (58.2), Yemen (54.8) and Finland/Switzerland (45.7 each), according to GunPolicy.org, an international database at the University of Sydney.
While nations such as South Africa, El Salvador and Thailand have much higher rates of gun homicides per year, the United States rate of 3.12 deaths per 100,000 people is the highest among industrialized nations.
This probably is one of the best lines I've ever heard. It makes so much sense and would make you think if it really is safer to have a gun.
"If someone gets into your house, which would you rather have, a handgun or a telephone? You can call the police if you want, and they'll get there... and they'll take a picture of your dead body. But they can't get there in time to save your life. The first line of defense is you."
Glad that video I linked made sense. Anti-gun people just don't get it. Next thing you know, we might as well ban kitchen knives.
Point is, there will always be a psycho out there who don't give a sh*t about the law. Gun laws don't make them any less dangerous. In fact, they become more dangerous because you make ordinary citizens unarmed.
Notice how these killings almost always occur in a gun-free area. You don't hear massacres happening in a gun range because people there are responsible, law abiding citizens.
But guess what happens when there's civilian response:
2007 Colorado YWAM and New Life shootings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOn Sunday, December 9, 2007, at about 1 p.m. Murray, armed with a semi-automatic rifle and two pistols, entered the foyer of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs and fatally shot two and wounded three others before himself being shot and wounded by Jeanne Assam, a former sworn Minneapolis police officer and a church member acting as security. Murray then took his own life.
The shooting
At about 1 p.m. MST (20:00 UTC), 30 minutes after the 11 a.m. service had ended at New Life Church, Murray opened fire in the church parking lot shooting the Works family and Judy Purcell, 40. Murray then entered the building's main foyer where he shot Larry Bourbonnais, 59, hitting him in the forearm. At this point, Assam opened fire on Murray with her personally owned concealed weapon. Police say that after suffering multiple hits from Assam's gun, Murray fatally shot himself.
Assam later stated that "God guided me and protected me [and I] did not think for a minute to run away."
The pastor of the church stated that Assam shot Murray before he entered 50 feet (15 m) inside the building, after she encountered him in the hallway, and that Assam probably saved "over 100 lives."
Following the shooting spree, Colorado Springs Police Department officers searched the church campus looking for suspicious devices. Colorado governor Bill Ritter ordered state authorities to help investigate. The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also came to the site to assist
Damn, son! Where'd you find this?
Every American have the right to bear arms...
A Hero ♥
This is Victoria Soto, and although I didn't know her, she is my hero. I don't know too much about her, but I know a lot of people who do know her and she's ama...zing. Victoria was a Stratford high graduate and only 27. She was killed today after she hid her first graders in closets and cabinets and told the shooter they were in the gym. He killed her and not one of her children were harmed. I have never been more proud to be from Stratford or to be a teacher. God bless Victoria, her family and friends, and all of those who were involved today in anyway. Victoria is a true hero.
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Every American have the right to bear arms...
This Nov. 13, 2012 photo provided by the family via The Washington Post shows Noah Pozner. The six-year-old was one of the victims in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. on Dec. 14, 2012. AP/Family Photo
All of the victims died from gunshot wounds and all were struck more than once, according to H. Wayne Carver II, chief medical examiner for the state of Connecticut. Their deaths have been classified as homicides.
"I've been at this for a third of a century. My sensibilities may not be the average man, but this probably is the worst I have seen or the worst that I know of any of my colleagues having seen," Carver told reporters.
Of the children killed, all were either 6 or 7 years old -- 12 girls and eight boys. The adults ranged in ages from 27 to 56, and included the school's principal, psychologist and at least two teachers. State police released the victims' names and ages Saturday afternoon.
Lanza was found dead next to three guns, a semi-automatic .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer, a law enforcement source told CNN. All belonged to his mother.
Kala ko only in the Philippines mga ganito mag isip, especially mga anti RH advocates...
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The killer and his car...a Honda.
Read more:But the unusual cruelty of this mass killing should shake the cold certainty of the most hardened guns rights advocate. Kindergartners are not supposed to be gunned down at school.
In a Connecticut town where only one murder had occurred in the past ten years. Only days before Christmas.
America has the Second Amendment – the right to bear arms – enshrined in our Constitution. We are not Europe and we will not ban gun ownership, ever.
It is true, as the National Rifle Association says, that "guns don't kill people; people kill people". But guns make these mass shootings possible. That's reality.
Another common denominator in these mass shootings is that they are frequently carried out by a mentally ill young man.
But if these sick souls could not so easily get their hands on multiple weapons with high-capacity cartridges or scores of bullets, often purchased in bulk over the internet, it is possible that they might only have harmed themselves.
Instead, they have the tools to kill everyone in a classroom in less than a minute.
Newtown shooting: now is the time for gun law debate in America - Telegraph
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When I first saw this in the news and being a father of two kids, my eyes welled up. I cannot comprehend the pain the parents of the victims are feeling now.
Rest in peace little angels, and to the families of the victims, may you find comfort in knowing that the whole world is grieving with you.
Not true.
1. When ordering online or by mail, the weapon will still pass thru a FFL. The gun will never be shipped to a buyers home address.
2. Ex-cons with felony offenses can never own a gun.
3. Yes, gun shows sells 2nd hand guns to people but still needs to go to a legal process to register the ownership transfer. Waiting period depends on which state you reside. In most cases, 10 days.
BTT: as a parent, I condemn such unspeakable act of violence. I was heartbroken after learning about the incident. All I hope is that the authorities should provide armed security at all schools to protect the children.
Hope di pinoy itong ogag...
Man held for Facebook threat to California schools
Agence France-Presse
6:42 am | Tuesday, December 18th, 2012
LOS ANGELES—California police have arrested a man for allegedly making threats on Facebook to “multiple elementary schools,” including by referring to the Connecticut massacre, a spokesman said Monday.
Kyle Bangayan, 24, was arrested Sunday at his parents’ Los Angeles home, where a cache of nine weapons including rifles and handguns was found, as well as ammunition.
No arms were found at Bangayan’s own home in Pomona, some 30 miles (50 kilometers) east of Los Angeles, said LA Police Department spokesman Richard French. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was also probing the case.
“The threats, which did not target specific schools but did reference the Connecticut school shooting from last Friday, were posted on the social networking site Facebook,” he added.
“Also found… at the residence where Bangayan was arrested were nine firearms, including rifles, a shotgun, handguns, and ammunition… A search of the suspect’s Pomona residence didn’t yield any weapons or related evidence.”
Another police spokeswoman, Venus Hall, said the threats were made to “multiple elementary schools,” but gave no further details of location or numbers of targets.
The alleged threats came as the United States reels from an elementary school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut on Friday that left 20 young children and six adults dead.
The shooter, who is also believed to have killed his mother at the house they shared before embarking on the school massacre, took his own life as police closed in.
And I thought Volvo was the only psychopath's brand...
BTT: True enough guns don't kill people and to think mabilis na response ng US Police sa crimes... then again it's a psychopath on the loose... wala bang security guards sa schools? walang frisking?
These kids didn't deserved what happened.. one of them could be a teacher one day, or a policeman, a doctor, a lawyer, a President, or a somebody...
May the gunman's soul burn eternally at hell, and the kids soul roam free in the pastures of heaven.