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  1. Join Date
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    may sumakay pa kaya pag natuloy to?
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    P72-MRT fare hike mulled

    First posted 06:19pm (Mla time) Jan 13, 2006
    By Maila Ager
    INQ7.net
    http://news.inq7.net/top/index.php?i...story_id=62833

    THE GOVERNMENT is considering increasing the Metro Rail Transit 3 fare to 72 pesos from 15 pesos to sustain its operations, a statement in the House of Representatives said on Friday.

    MRT Corp. General Manager Roberto Lastimoso told a hearing by the committee on railways and roll on-roll off system that the MRT could survive if it would increase its commercial fare to 72 pesos, according to the same statement.

    The main problem however is that MRTC could not raise the fare because this will discourage commuters from riding the MRT, the statement quoted Lastimoso as saying.

    Lastimoso admitted that the MRT 3 was experiencing "income shortfall" because of the US dollar-peso exchange rate, which at the time of the signing of the contract in 1997 was only 27 pesos to the dollar.

    While the MRTC was earning in pesos, its obligations were being paid in dollars, he said.

    "Our total monthly obligations amount to 3.3 million dollars while our income is only 130 million pesos.

    The national government subsidizes the discrepancy," he explained.

    Iloilo Representative Janette Garin, a member of the committee, confirmed that Lastimoso had proposed a fare increase but could not say if an official communication was made to formalize this request.

    Garin said the proposed increase was untimely given the present country's economic condition

    "If such an increase is approved, there should be safety measures to ensure that the proceeds would go to railways enhancement," she said in a telephone interview.

    Aside from increasing the fare, Lastimoso and Paul Daza, lawyer for the MRTC, said the "most ideal solution" to the problem was the proposed MRT 3 buyout by the national government from the MRTC.

    But Parañaque Representative Roilo Golez and Negros Oriental Representative Jacinto Paras opposed the idea.

    Golez said if the proposed buyout materialized, each and every Filipino, including non-users of MRT 3, would have to bear the operational costs.

    Paras said the proposal was not a good idea since the very reason for placing the MRT 3 under the Build-Lease -Transfer scheme was precisely because of the lack of funds on the part of the government.

    He said he would rather support an increase in the MRT 3 fare to cover the costs of its operations.

    The government needs at least 600 million dollars to be able to take over MRT3.

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    I-cutthroat muna nila ang jeeps and tricycles. Kung wala na yung mga yon, they can raise their rates to kingdom come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picantorange
    I-cutthroat muna nila ang jeeps and tricycles. Kung wala na yung mga yon, they can raise their rates to kingdom come.
    wala naman jeeps and tricycles sa EDSA. Buses lang and taxi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    wala naman jeeps and tricycles sa EDSA. Buses lang and taxi.
    May jeep kaya dun. What I meant though, was build more trains so people won't have to use PUVs to go places. Andami namang country na nabubuhay nang walang jeeps and trikes e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picantorange
    Andami namang country na nabubuhay nang walang jeeps and trikes e.
    just because they are well diciplined and law abiding individuals...e sa pinas kasi madaming matitigas ang ulo at hindi sumusunod sa simpleng batas trapiko..

  6. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by picantorange
    May jeep kaya dun. What I meant though, was build more trains so people won't have to use PUVs to go places. Andami namang country na nabubuhay nang walang jeeps and trikes e.
    Hehehe. Ok lang na puro lakad na lang kaya lang tropical country tayo. Mainit.

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    P72 na MRT? Imbis na kumita, baka mas lalo silang malugi, sa plano nilang yan. Sino pa sasakay kung di na kaya ng masang Pinoy?

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    solusyon para mabawasan na rin traffic sa edsa at luminis ang hangin...

    take out 2/3 of the buses sa edsa. that'll help. ;)

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    kung itataas nila dapat hindi biglaang malaki..buti sna kung sweldo tataas din.

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    Pag P72 ang fare lalangawin sila niyan.

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    yup it's high time na i-increase ang fare ng MRT kung saan nila masusuportahan ang overhead nila. malalaspag lang ng husto yan at hindi pakikinabangan ng mga susunod pang generation. sobrang congested tapos ang baba ng fare.

    kung makikita ng ibang foreign investors, na profitable ang MRT/LRT, they can help with the expansion. at tuluyan na ma-eliminate ang mga inefficient public transport.

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    Pwede itaas pero bakit bigla naman 72p agad... mag na tuloy yan lalo mag sisikop ang EDSA konti nalang sasakay sa MRT.. unless nag mamadali ka talaga

    BTW.. parang ganyan din yata ang Fare ng MRT sa Bangkok?? kaya konti lang din sumasakay

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    hindi kaya 27 at nabaligtad lang?

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    sinasubsidize pala ng gobyerno -- or more accurately, ng taxpayers -- ung MRT fare. something like 30-40 pesos per rider. all this because the gov't -- this time, *not* the taxpayers -- agreed to give the MRT consortium a *guaranteed* 15% return on investment. kumita man ng 1% lang, or malugi ng 50% ang MRT, the taxpayers pay the balance.

    kung talagang magiging 72 pesos...i think i'll start looking for work elsewhere. i't not as if i look forward to riding the MRT to work every day.
    Last edited by badkuk; January 17th, 2006 at 10:55 AM.

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    kung 72 ang fare, lalong silang malulugi kasi walang sasakay nyan. unless they take out the FX, buses and jeeps

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    lalo nga malulugi ito pag ginawa na ito 72 Php..

    pang karaniwan naman nasakay sa mga ganito ay estudyante at mga manggagawa..na di naman halos kalakihan ang kita sa trabaho.

    so saan pa nila kukunin ang dagdag pasahe na iyan kung ang sweldo naman nila ay di nadagdagan

    meron man mga kaya ang ganon kataas na pasahe or hindi maapektuhan ang sweldo sa pag increase ay malamang de kotse ang mga iyon ...eh sino pa sasakay sa MRT eh di mag kotse na lang ako kung konti lang diperensia ng gastos ko sa pag alis

    or tama din si badkuk..hanap na lang bagong work na mejo malapit sa bahay

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    I honestly think that they should have made the rate that high right from the start.

    In any city around the world, subways/mass transit rail have always been more expensive / km than busses and minibus systems since you're paying premium for the speed and convenience of using the transit.

    Syempre dito ang consumers never think about the investment of the company...

    I really wonder why foreign companies bother investing in infrastructure projects in the Philippines, it never pays off...

  18. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    I honestly think that they should have made the rate that high right from the start.

    In any city around the world, subways/mass transit rail have always been more expensive / km than busses and minibus systems since you're paying premium for the speed and convenience of using the transit.

    Syempre dito ang consumers never think about the investment of the company...

    I really wonder why foreign companies bother investing in infrastructure projects in the Philippines, it never pays off...
    Easy to say if someone has a fat salary check but in reality majority of Pinoy will not afford that rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankDrebin
    Easy to say if someone has a fat salary check but in reality majority of Pinoy will not afford that rate.
    So you'd say that you'd rather see the whole investment crumble in 5 years time due to lack of income just so that "everyone" can use it?

    It'll end up like the Philippine railways...

    30kph lang takbo coz they have to give way to the people who lives along the track...

  20. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    So you'd say that you'd rather see the whole investment crumble in 5 years time due to lack of income just so that "everyone" can use it?

    It'll end up like the Philippine railways...

    30kph lang takbo coz they have to give way to the people who lives along the track...
    I'm not against raising it bro but Php72 is a hefty amount of money! What I mean is give the MRT users a fair amount of fare increase. (rhyme ba? :D)

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