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[BlancNoir]

FB20 is only rated less than 160hp. The turbocharged FA20 can be tuned for more than 300hp.

The L15B7 is tuned to around 200hp as used in the newest generation of the Accord. Ford's new 1.5L 3-cylinder turbo engine is also rated at 200hp.

My bad. It is the FA20, not the FB20.

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[Walter]

Napansin ko lang, kaliwat kanang recalls lately. Di ba dapat as technology progresses, dapat less issues?

Probably because of fierce competition ... Car companies want to lower cost so they squeeze their suppliers ... Suppliers want to beat their competitors so they offer lower price at the expense of quality ... If you will notice, most of the problems started when China was booming ... A lot of companies switched to China factories because of the competitive pricing ... Factories in Japan, Taiwan and Korea had to lower their prices ... They had to save money somewhere so they skimped on quality here and there ... Pretty soon you see the cascading effect ... Takata airbag, steel quality problems ...

Then there's also impractical government restrictions ... Technology can only get so far at any given time frame ... Hence you have Dieselgate scandal ... You get (arguably) useless technology like engine start-stop ... and so on ...

[BlancNoir]

Probably because of fierce competition ... Car companies want to lower cost so they squeeze their suppliers ... Suppliers want to beat their competitors so they offer lower price at the expense of quality ... If you will notice, most of the problems started when China was booming ... A lot of companies switched to China factories because of the competitive pricing ... Factories in Japan, Taiwan and Korea had to lower their prices ... They had to save money somewhere so they skimped on quality here and there ... Pretty soon you see the cascading effect ... Takata airbag, steel quality problems ...

Then there's also impractical government restrictions ... Technology can only get so far at any given time frame ... Hence you have Dieselgate scandal ... You get (arguably) useless technology like engine start-stop ... and so on ...

Makes sense.

Also, not to mention the ever increasing horsepower war. New models usually have higher outputs compared to their preceding model.

Speaking of useless technology, the worst for me is the push button parking brake.

[_Cathy_]

Nagsawa na ata. Oh well. I can never be happy I hate my life.

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[MR_BIG18]

Nagsawa na ata. Oh well. I can never be happy I hate my life.

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Is that it? Ones happiness isnt based on other people..it starts from oneself

[jut703]

Makes sense.

Also, not to mention the ever increasing horsepower war. New models usually have higher outputs compared to their preceding model.

Speaking of useless technology, the worst for me is the push button parking brake.

Yung Civic halos hindi na gumalaw HP since the EG.

EG - PH16 1.6L 125hp (non-VTEC)
EK - PH16 1.6L 127hp (VTEC)
ES - D16 1.6L 130hp (VTEC)
FD - R18 1.8L 141hp
FB - R18 1.8L 141hp
FC - R18 1.8L 141hp

Same case with the Corolla:
AE101 - 4AFE 1.6L 110 hp
AE111 - 4AFE 1.6L 110 hp
E120 - 3ZZ-FE 1.6L 109 hp
E140 - 3ZZ-FE 1.6L 109 hp
E140 - 1ZR-FE 1.6L 122 hp
E170 - 1ZR-FE 1.6L 122 hp

As well as the CRV:
Gen 1.5 - B20 148 hp
Gen 2 - K20 150 hp
Gen 3 - R20 150 hp
Gen 4 - R20 150 hp
Gen 5 - R20 154 hp

I think the pressure is not solely on increasing output, but maintaining a reasonable power-to-weight ratio while improving efficiency.

So if the car gets bigger, they have to slap on a more powerful engine that has the same efficiency.

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[BlancNoir]

Yung Civic halos hindi na gumalaw HP since the EG.

EG - PH16 1.6L 125hp (non-VTEC)
EK - PH16 1.6L 127hp (VTEC)
ES - D16 1.6L 130hp (VTEC)
FD - R18 1.8L 141hp
FB - R18 1.8L 141hp
FC - R18 1.8L 141hp

Same case with the Corolla:
AE101 - 4AFE 1.6L 110 hp
AE111 - 4AFE 1.6L 110 hp
E120 - 3ZZ-FE 1.6L 109 hp
E140 - 3ZZ-FE 1.6L 109 hp
E140 - 1ZR-FE 1.6L 122 hp
E170 - 1ZR-FE 1.6L 122 hp

As well as the CRV:
Gen 1.5 - B20 148 hp
Gen 2 - K20 150 hp
Gen 3 - R20 150 hp
Gen 4 - R20 150 hp
Gen 5 - R20 154 hp

I think the pressure is not solely on increasing output, but maintaining a reasonable power-to-weight ratio while improving efficiency.

So if the car gets bigger, they have to slap on a more powerful engine that has the same efficiency.

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You are right.

Maybe the correct analysis would be higher output for new engines using the same displacement. [emoji23]

Still, it is 10% lang from the 1.6L of Toyota, a neasley 4% from Honda.

Yes, maybe we should account for the kerb weight increase per succeeding model.

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[_Cathy_]

Is that it? Ones happiness isnt based on other people..it starts from oneself

I can't help it. Maybe it's because my life is sh1tty in general and it's just these people who come into my life that bring sunshine to it. Kaya when I lose them, it's gloomy again

[dreamur]

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[iliveinyourcar]

The time that I've been dreading has come; I will have to drive through SLEX na starting tomorrow because my shift changed to 5pm -2am. Any tips for a newbie like me?

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