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    #21381
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushless View Post
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.
    This is true, and if you don't agree to the findings then you make another study to refute the said paper. Interestingly, this particular book is never outdated: Basic Information Before Leaving Earth.

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    #21383
    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    Some people I've talked to would say that it is better if you don't stop at your vices and will give examples that so and so, this and that, died after a few years when they stopped. However, this research says otherwise​:

    Alcohol Associated With Disease, Death And No Level is Safe, Says New Study



    Now this particular guy who said to continue to your vices, he just died a couple of weeks ago.
    The people who says that are just justifying their actions..and the ones that died after they stopped their vices have already an underlying condition, thats why they stopped in the 1st place..they sensed there is something wrong..i for one stopped smoking 15 years ago due to the fact that i saw my dad died of lung cancer, i saw how hard it was, that time and i was smoking 2-3packs a day..i realized that if i didnt stopped ill meet the same fate, few years ago i also stopped drinking, 1st it was for spiritual reasons, then i began to lose weight easily...before being sober, i used to drink 10 beers easily and with alcohol one can easily lose control on food choices...from doing so i lost more the 100lbs and im been maintainance free for 3 years going to 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushless View Post
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.
    maybe because heavier drinkers die younger or are fired more often, such that they do not get the chance to litter the employee records, with sick leaves.
    heh heh.

    as my old teacher said, "80% is in your genes. the remaining 20% is on your dining table".
    unfortunately, we do not know what genetic cards we are dealt at birth. so are we gonna gamble on life's gambling dinner table with our self-chosen dietary habit cards ?
    if so...proceed, with my blessings!

    after all, i derive income from the health miseries of others.

    ..underlying condition.
    is that related or caused by alcohol ingestion in the first place?

    cancer?
    while the statistics on predisposition to lung cancer are almost pedestrian knowledge by now, there is still the significant "unknown associations".
    maraming younger females in their 40s, living as clean as you and i can imagine, that still develop lung cancer.

    bottomline.
    while we have many times all-caps clues on cancer causation, there are a lot more things that we do not know.

    but i understand very well, why these scientific articles are very popular.
    it is because they give the reader reason to rationalize living la vida loca.

    lastly,
    we're not japanese.
    while we highlight what we think they eat, perhaps we furriners do not see what else they do.
    aside from their very high prices of their alcoholic beverages, they walk. a lot. not as programmed activity (exercise), but as activities of daily living.
    that is why, as a people, japanese are not fat.

    OT.
    who are the fattest japanese?
    the paid-to-be-fat sumo wrestlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_BIG18 View Post
    before being sober, i used to drink 10 beers easily and with alcohol one can easily lose control on food choices...from doing so i lost more the 100lbs and im been maintainance free for 3 years going to 4

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    heavy alcohol drinking is a recognized cause of weight loss. alcohol depresses the hunger pangs.
    they also tend to be malnourished, if they do not supplement their "diet" with the necessary micromolecules.
    but i do not think this is the recommended manner of healthy weight loss.
    count your blessings, sir, that you are non-cirrhotic.

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    #21386
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    heavy alcohol drinking is a recognized cause of weight loss. alcohol depresses the hunger pangs.
    they also tend to be malnourished, if they do not supplement their "diet" with the necessary micromolecules.
    but i do not think this is the recommended manner of healthy weight loss.
    count your blessings, sir, that you are non-cirrhotic.
    Maybe depends of which type of alcohol? Malt beers will cause your stomach heavy... however those tanduays and the like i think will loss your weight... imo...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Maybe depends of which type of alcohol? Malt beers will cause your stomach heavy... however those tanduays and the like i think will loss your weight... imo...


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    ethyl alcohol is ethyl alcohol, regardless of packaging. but we should know what alcohol concentrations they have. the numbers are printed on the container, naman.

    how many malt beers did you down, and how many lapads did you empty in one day?
    while one beer is usually consumed by only one person, several people usually share the tanduay, (right) ? compute the amount of alcohol you ingested.

    and take note of what type of pulutan you ate. some pulutans kasi are more filling than others.
    you think the alaQ made you busog, yung pala yung pulutan... also, some pulutans have some amount of nutrition in them, that might address the malnutrition issue.

    it's not the volume of the "beverage", but rather, the amount of alcohol you ingested, per day, that these studies are usually measured against. (day, or multiples of a day, because that happens to be the more reliable time element that can be measured with accuracy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...

    but i understand very well, why these scientific articles are very popular.
    it is because they give the reader reason to rationalize living la vida loca.
    This is sad... YOLO, you only live once. Some people I've known really live like that. If I may say, a life without a "purpose". They are living for the sake of living, with all the pleasures of life can offer. A life without meaningful purpose.

    On some extreme cases of YOLO, the latest statistics I've seen infected with HIV is 13 years old. And according to my friend who is a medical practitioner, the youngest patient he had with STD is 9 years old!

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    #21389
    Prunes must be a natural laxative because I had to take a dump 3x after eating some. It felt good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    Prunes must be a natural laxative because I had to take a dump 3x after eating some. It felt good.
    there is even a "curse" about prunes.
    "may your army of starving soldiers be rained by unlimited, delicious prunes, and have only one latrine available."

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