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    #21381
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushless View Post
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.
    This is true, and if you don't agree to the findings then you make another study to refute the said paper. Interestingly, this particular book is never outdated: Basic Information Before Leaving Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    Some people I've talked to would say that it is better if you don't stop at your vices and will give examples that so and so, this and that, died after a few years when they stopped. However, this research says otherwise​:

    Alcohol Associated With Disease, Death And No Level is Safe, Says New Study



    Now this particular guy who said to continue to your vices, he just died a couple of weeks ago.
    The people who says that are just justifying their actions..and the ones that died after they stopped their vices have already an underlying condition, thats why they stopped in the 1st place..they sensed there is something wrong..i for one stopped smoking 15 years ago due to the fact that i saw my dad died of lung cancer, i saw how hard it was, that time and i was smoking 2-3packs a day..i realized that if i didnt stopped ill meet the same fate, few years ago i also stopped drinking, 1st it was for spiritual reasons, then i began to lose weight easily...before being sober, i used to drink 10 beers easily and with alcohol one can easily lose control on food choices...from doing so i lost more the 100lbs and im been maintainance free for 3 years going to 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushless View Post
    Studies should always be taken with a grain of salt because there will always be another study which will refute that, such as this:

    "Research Shows Non-Drinkers Take More Sick Leaves than Occasional Drinkers

    The study negates a common misconception that drinking alcohol occasionally makes us vulnerable to health risks.

    https://interestingengineering.com/research-shows-non-drinkers-take-more-sick-leaves-than-occasional-drinkers"


    Most studies only focus on one aspect but ignoring other variables. Variables such as diet, activity level, smoking, pre existing condition, stress level, blood pressure, cholesterol level, junk food, genetics and etc. I could conduct a study and claim by just breathing air we will all die eventually. lol

    Look at the Japanese, they drink alochol regularly and they live the longest. Every time I'm on the Tokyo subway, the smell of sweet smelling sake alcohol reeks on most salary man during rush hour when the train is packed like sardine.
    maybe because heavier drinkers die younger or are fired more often, such that they do not get the chance to litter the employee records, with sick leaves.
    heh heh.

    as my old teacher said, "80% is in your genes. the remaining 20% is on your dining table".
    unfortunately, we do not know what genetic cards we are dealt at birth. so are we gonna gamble on life's gambling dinner table with our self-chosen dietary habit cards ?
    if so...proceed, with my blessings!

    after all, i derive income from the health miseries of others.

    ..underlying condition.
    is that related or caused by alcohol ingestion in the first place?

    cancer?
    while the statistics on predisposition to lung cancer are almost pedestrian knowledge by now, there is still the significant "unknown associations".
    maraming younger females in their 40s, living as clean as you and i can imagine, that still develop lung cancer.

    bottomline.
    while we have many times all-caps clues on cancer causation, there are a lot more things that we do not know.

    but i understand very well, why these scientific articles are very popular.
    it is because they give the reader reason to rationalize living la vida loca.

    lastly,
    we're not japanese.
    while we highlight what we think they eat, perhaps we furriners do not see what else they do.
    aside from their very high prices of their alcoholic beverages, they walk. a lot. not as programmed activity (exercise), but as activities of daily living.
    that is why, as a people, japanese are not fat.

    OT.
    who are the fattest japanese?
    the paid-to-be-fat sumo wrestlers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_BIG18 View Post
    before being sober, i used to drink 10 beers easily and with alcohol one can easily lose control on food choices...from doing so i lost more the 100lbs and im been maintainance free for 3 years going to 4

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    heavy alcohol drinking is a recognized cause of weight loss. alcohol depresses the hunger pangs.
    they also tend to be malnourished, if they do not supplement their "diet" with the necessary micromolecules.
    but i do not think this is the recommended manner of healthy weight loss.
    count your blessings, sir, that you are non-cirrhotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    heavy alcohol drinking is a recognized cause of weight loss. alcohol depresses the hunger pangs.
    they also tend to be malnourished, if they do not supplement their "diet" with the necessary micromolecules.
    but i do not think this is the recommended manner of healthy weight loss.
    count your blessings, sir, that you are non-cirrhotic.
    Maybe depends of which type of alcohol? Malt beers will cause your stomach heavy... however those tanduays and the like i think will loss your weight... imo...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Maybe depends of which type of alcohol? Malt beers will cause your stomach heavy... however those tanduays and the like i think will loss your weight... imo...


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    ethyl alcohol is ethyl alcohol, regardless of packaging. but we should know what alcohol concentrations they have. the numbers are printed on the container, naman.

    how many malt beers did you down, and how many lapads did you empty in one day?
    while one beer is usually consumed by only one person, several people usually share the tanduay, (right) ? compute the amount of alcohol you ingested.

    and take note of what type of pulutan you ate. some pulutans kasi are more filling than others.
    you think the alaQ made you busog, yung pala yung pulutan... also, some pulutans have some amount of nutrition in them, that might address the malnutrition issue.

    it's not the volume of the "beverage", but rather, the amount of alcohol you ingested, per day, that these studies are usually measured against. (day, or multiples of a day, because that happens to be the more reliable time element that can be measured with accuracy.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...

    but i understand very well, why these scientific articles are very popular.
    it is because they give the reader reason to rationalize living la vida loca.
    This is sad... YOLO, you only live once. Some people I've known really live like that. If I may say, a life without a "purpose". They are living for the sake of living, with all the pleasures of life can offer. A life without meaningful purpose.

    On some extreme cases of YOLO, the latest statistics I've seen infected with HIV is 13 years old. And according to my friend who is a medical practitioner, the youngest patient he had with STD is 9 years old!

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    Prunes must be a natural laxative because I had to take a dump 3x after eating some. It felt good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    Prunes must be a natural laxative because I had to take a dump 3x after eating some. It felt good.
    there is even a "curse" about prunes.
    "may your army of starving soldiers be rained by unlimited, delicious prunes, and have only one latrine available."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    This is sad... YOLO, you only live once. Some people I've known really live like that. If I may say, a life without a "purpose". They are living for the sake of living, with all the pleasures of life can offer. A life without meaningful purpose.

    On some extreme cases of YOLO, the latest statistics I've seen infected with HIV is 13 years old. And according to my friend who is a medical practitioner, the youngest patient he had with STD is 9 years old!
    my infections disease authority has this saying, "only the newborn can be considered 100% virgin."
    and yet, the poor guy can already be infected via "vertical means" from the mother.

    magic johnson (remember him?) is still alive and physically healthy, after 2 decades of hiv. but, i believe, he's on anti-hiv medications.
    while modern medicine already has the ability to stop hiv from killing, we as yet have not found a real cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    there is even a "curse" about prunes.
    "may your army of starving soldiers be rained by unlimited, delicious prunes, and have only one latrine available."
    So, the laxative part is true. Next time I'm constipated, I'll eat some prunes. I find them delicious. But, I'll make sure to never eat prunes while on a road trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    So, the laxative part is true. Next time I'm constipated, I'll eat some prunes. I find them delicious. But, I'll make sure to never eat prunes while on a road trip.
    yes, sir! many folks use them as a non-medicinal laxative. some kids like 'em.
    i eat them when i am sure i'm not going anywhere far from a good comfort room, in the next 24 hours, with unlimited water and tissue paper.
    yes, they are delicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    This is sad... YOLO, you only live once. Some people I've known really live like that. If I may say, a life without a "purpose". They are living for the sake of living, with all the pleasures of life can offer. A life without meaningful purpose.

    On some extreme cases of YOLO, the latest statistics I've seen infected with HIV is 13 years old. And according to my friend who is a medical practitioner, the youngest patient he had with STD is 9 years old!
    Is this in PH? If yes, very alarming... Pia Wurtz kinakompanya ang AIDS awareness which is good....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Is this in PH? If yes, very alarming... Pia Wurtz kinakompanya ang AIDS awareness which is good....
    We are in the watchlist of growing number of HIV cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes, sir! many folks use them as a non-medicinal laxative. some kids like 'em.
    i eat them when i am sure i'm not going anywhere far from a good comfort room, in the next 24 hours, with unlimited water and tissue paper.
    yes, they are delicious.
    My wife is awake and watching TV. Apparently, she ate some prunes too. We finished a big bagful between the two of us.

    Oh. I just had my 4th trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    We are in the watchlist of growing number of HIV cases.

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    a colleague says, the numbers have always been with us.
    but because we (or rather, the afflicted ones) treat it like top secret and like the spanish influenza of 1918, they simply simply shut up and are not counted.
    they seek professional help only when it starts getting "in their way of a normal life"... which is not yesterday or last year, but "now". hence the increase.
    if we are to control and beat this disease, we have to rid ourselves of the fears borne out of our inventive minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    My wife is awake and watching TV. Apparently, she ate some prunes too. We finished a big bagful between the two of us.

    Oh. I just had my 4th trip.
    like many american homes, i believe yours has more than one bathroom.
    heh heh.

    but see this,
    there is an "advantage". after your bouts, you will feel "cleansed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    a colleague says, the numbers have always been with us.
    but because we (or rather, the afflicted ones) treat it like top secret and like the spanish influenza of 1918, they simply simply shut up and are not counted.
    they seek professional help only when it starts getting "in their way of a normal life".
    if we are to control and beat this disease, we have to rid ourselves of the fears borne out of our inventive minds.
    Awareness is the issue. Poor or not these younger generation of imbeciles are not informed about fluid exposure.

    DoE and DoH has to step up..

    I'm wrong by the way.. it's not simply growing.. its exponentially growing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Awareness is the issue. Poor or not these younger generation of imbeciles are not informed about fluid exposure.

    DoE and DoH has to step up..

    I'm wrong by the way.. it's not simply growing.. its exponentially growing...

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    it is probably partly the health practitioner's fault.
    while we in the profession know the etiopathogenesis and infections nature of the disease,
    we sometimes think everybody else does.
    which is simply not so.

    to wit,
    if it is as fatal and infectious as we feel, then why do we not advertise openly, of this disease?
    then advertise where they can get free help, no questions asked.
    when i open my TV set tonight, will i see even one such medical ad?

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