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[uls]

look what i found

posted Sept 2007

http://tsikot.com/forums/miscellaneo...56/index5.html

I was just thinking about what happened in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina left it in ruins.

There was total collapse of infrastructure and law and order. People looted, there was anarchy, the very young and old and sick died...

It made me think how totally dependent we are on man-made infrastructure.

Things we take for granted like indoor plumbing, electricity, roads, telephones, supermarkets, hospitals, law enforcement....

Our ancestors hunt for food and lived in caves. They drank from streams. They can survive on the barest, crudest essentials. We cant. Many people wont even drink tap water.

Our modern civilization is totally dependent on very fragile infrastructure. (remember how uncomfortable life was after Milenyo struck?)

Think about it... our lives are totally dependent on availability of food from the market, grocery and food stores. We buy water from refilling stations. If there are none of these providers, we cant just shift to hunting and drinking from streams. Many people would starve to death.

People are being kept alive by pharmaceutical drugs and doctors and hospitals. If there's no medicine to buy, no doctors to see, no hospitals to go to, many would die.

We need emergency rooms. We need telephones. We need traffic lights. We need all this stuff to live.

The infrastructure is extremely fragile as demonstrated in New Orleans.

Imagine if something like New Orleans happened on a global scale...

We are actually weaker that our caveman ancestors. They didnt need all this stuff to survive.

Though we do live longer now thanks to vaccines and modern meds, our longer lives are dependent on all this man-made infrastructure. If and when something happens to this infrastructure, the human race is screwed.

And that will be the end of the world as we know it.

[dreamur]

Crazy weather! Can't feel my ears!



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[marg]

Ugly Pinoy looter featured in a Japanese newspaper.

SHAME!

[Monseratto]

Mga kuripot....

http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/...ctims/?hp&_r=0

November 11, 2013, 6:15 am 79 Comments
China Offers Relatively Modest Aid for Typhoon Victims
By JANE PERLEZ

As international aid pours into the Philippines for victims of Typhoon Haiyan, China has offered $100,000 in cash, a figure that seems modest compared with its other recent contributions for humanitarian relief abroad.

Qin Gang, spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told reporters on Monday that China would send that amount to help the Philippines recover from a disaster that has left as many as 10,000 people dead. Asked if the donation was scaled according to the current chill in relations between China and the Philippines, Mr. Qin declined to answer.

In September, China said it would give a $1.5 million cash grant to Pakistan, its close friend, after an earthquake killed an estimated 500 people in the province of Baluchistan.

After a tropical storm hit the Philippines in 2011, China pledged $1 million in humanitarian aid. That was before relations between the two countries soured over disputed islands and reefs in the South China Sea.

[Monseratto]

[111prez]

The Russkies are also sending help...







Read more: Russia to Send 200 Rescuers to Typhoon-Hit Philippines | News | The Moscow Times
The Moscow Times

It is true na may white Russians and their descendants in Eastern Samar.

This is where most of the Czarist/Loyalist fled during the October Revolution

[111prez]

Mga kuripot....

http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/...ctims/?hp&_r=0

Take the $100K and use it to build Philippine structures on the West Philippine Sea.

After all, apektado din ito at kailangan i-rehabilitate

[falken]

Ugly Pinoy looter featured in a Japanese newspaper.

SHAME!

Dapat dito sa mokong na ito masunugan pa ng bahay.

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[vinj]

According to our yaya who hails from the same area and where her parents still live, the convoy was stopped by the NPA and made off with one of the trucks.

Gad. So my hope that these NPAs and other irrelevant rebels would be washed off the mountains and into the sea did not materialize.

look what i found

posted Sept 2007

http://tsikot.com/forums/miscellaneo...56/index5.html

OB would be very, very proud of you. :D




Actually, to prepare for a storm of this magnitude will really require a citizenry educated on how to be disciplined and deal with such calamities of such magnitude; training, purposely built evacuation structures, and logistics. It's a painful lesson to learn and we never stood a chance with all the money going to God-knows-where. Japan has that and they are able to survive and cope with such situations in a real effective way.

I was at the grocery last night and the place was really a mess in a nice way as people were buying up goods for distribution and relief efforts. I have not yet put out the cash or goods to do my own little part as i'm still trying to see what i can do and how can i effectively do it. For starters, I'm trying to help those whom i can help directly; I spoke with our househelp who was affected and since they were thankfully able to set aside food rations, the focus is to help them rebuild their home and rebuild it sturdily. The next is our office staff/messengers who have family in Guiuan Samar that they have not heard from yet. I discouraged them from making a haphazard trip by motorbike as they don't have much resources and they are risking their lives unnecessarily, and that they have their own kids here in Manila to look over. Once information comes in and people know how to go about in reaching the place, that's when I'll give them the help/goods they can bring or send there.

[crazy_boy]

Ugly Pinoy looter featured in a Japanese newspaper.

SHAME!

nakakahiya yan. saan naman niya gagamitin yung pang ground ng meat? kamay niya?

[uls]

re looting

it's not just desperation

people who loot may be desperate but many have other motives

i keep hearing people in the media say it's coz desperado ang tao

didnt they go to sociology class?

everybody sees other people do it so everybody joins in --- it's call collective behavior

Collective behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The expression collective behavior was first used by Robert E. Park (1921), and employed later by Herbert Blumer (1939), Ralph Turner and Lewis Killian (1957), and Neil Smelser (1962) to refer to social processes and events which do not reflect existing social structure (laws, conventions, and institutions), but which emerge in a "spontaneous" way. Collective behavior takes many forms but generally violates societal norms (Miller 2000, Locher 2002). Collective behavior can be tremendously destructive, as with riots or mob violence, silly, as with fads, or anywhere in between. Collective behavior is always driven by group dynamics, encouraging people to engage in acts they might consider unthinkable under typical social circumstances (Locher 2002).

Emergent-Norm Theory - according to Ralph Turner and Lewis Killian (1957), crowds begin as collectivities composed of people with mixed interests and motives. Especially in the case of less stable crowds—expressive, acting and protest crowds—norms may be vague and changing, as when one person decides to break the glass windows of a store and others join in and begin looting merchandise. When people find themselves in a situation that is vague, ambiguous, or confusing new norms "emerge" on the spot and people follow those emergent norms, which may be at odds with normal social behavior. Turner and Killian further argue that there are several different categories of participants, all of whom follow different patterns of behavior due to their differing motivations.[/B]

mixed motives

there are people who are motivated by hunger and thirst --- taking only food and water

but others have other motives

how often can you go into a store take what you want and leave without paying

many looters are just taking advantage of an opportunity

they see someone leave the store with a TV or washing machine

when a crowd is presented with an opportunity to get free appliances they don't want to let that opportunity pass so they join in

it's a spontaneous decision

that's the psychology behind that kind of collective behavior

[NiCe2KnowU]

magpapadala na din daw ang china ng tulong :D

[greenlyt]

dont know kung repost na eto:

Microwave Pulse gives birth to Typhoon Haiyan? [VIDEO] - LIBRARY OF MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILES

buhay na naman ang mga conspiracy theorists

[vinj]

Nasaan na rin ang mga maka-BAYAN na militante aktibista? Baka magprotest pa sila sa mga dadating na US aid imbes na magbigay tulong.

[badkuk]

i wonder if that pawnshop got robbed. Siguro kahit bakbakin yung pader para makuha yung safe, wala ring makapigil

[shadow]

dapat yun mga BDO branches inuna nila... parang sari-sari stores sa dami ng branches

[Retz]

looting is just not right. kailangan may shoot to kill din.

[cast_no_shadow]

Pede rin galing ibang province na hindi naman takaga victims, mga oportunista lang talaga. Ang pinoy masyado maabilidad kaso sa kagaguhan minsan ginagamit.

Yung branch nila esmi sa robinson tacloban nalimas laman ng atm including the vault nabuksan din daw.

Which makes me wonder how can an ordinary citizen open a bank vault.


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[Retz]

INC refused shelter for Yolanda victim




Soure: Iglesia Ni Cristo Refused Shelter For Super Typhoon Haiyan Victims in Philippines - LIBRARY OF MOST CONTROVERSIAL FILES

Totoo kaya ito? ano masasabi ng mga kapatid natin sa Iglesia?

[cast_no_shadow]

Totoo kaya ito? ano masasabi ng mga kapatid natin sa Iglesia?

May thread na about jan retz. Check religion and politics.


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