Are we Pinoys in Pinas too arrogant to see we could be the problem?

[uls]

Look at what a country produces and u will see the image of the nation.

Boeing makes passenger jets for the world's airlines.

Toyota make cars for the world's roads.

We provide domestic help for the world's households.

[midinite]

Good to see discussion is alive and well. To also see "nuggets" of inspiration...time to take it past cyberspace?

[oldblue]

sabi nga ni Shaddai leader Mike velarde sa isang interview, "there is opportunity in crisis. ang dapat lang ay matutunan ng pinoy makita yun"." d ko alam kumbakit nya sinabi yun, pero para na din nya sinabi na he's taking advantage of his lost flock.

anyway, ganyan naman takbo ng mundo. the rich pinoys are doing it since day 1.
you know why majority of news (like in this article) are negative and negative news sell and stock markets drop on an inkling of a negative news ... it's bec. a lot of people are too weak to ignore the negative. and so the experiment begins ... and the opportunity too.

ang dapat lang natin katakutan na major negative news sa pinas eh natural disaster and foreign invasion. everything else, like cheating in the elections, stock market crash, dollar gaining vs. peso, pinoys discriminating lowly pinoys, rubout cases are all magnified man-made disasters. kung observe nyo, the negative reactions from these news in general are what's making it worst for us. some become defensive, paranoid, pessimistic, suspicious and some even lose hope.

stop believing in the media and the entire circus in the TV hehehe

[laklak]

Look at what a country produces and u will see the image of the nation.

We provide domestic help for the world's households.

well that and a whole bunch of other stuff, like world class sweet mangoes, professional health care workers and IT people, quality electronic goods and a whole lot more i just didnt have the time to do the reasearch.

sa madaling sabi, kung sa paningin mo bobo ka di maglalaon na bobo na rin ang magiging tingin sa iyo ng ibang tao. (medyo sablay na sa topic, i just wanted to drive home a point)

[morrissey_05]

media is not wholly at fault here. after all, it only reflects reality. as the thread suggest, WE, all of us, are the problem. so instead of pointing fingers, why dont we own up to it, and start acting and doing something about it. this is still our ship. even if its sinking, its still our ship.

[midinite]

media is not wholly at fault here. after all, it only reflects reality. as the thread suggest, WE, all of us, are the problem. so instead of pointing fingers, why dont we own up to it, and start acting and doing something about it. this is still our ship. even if its sinking, its still our ship.

...and unfortunately it is the only ship we have to call our own...

[kevinp]

pwede naman magpa-ampon sa ibang ship. hehehe...

[laklak]

media is not wholly at fault here. after all, it only reflects reality.

it would be good if this is all that they do (save for some), but i think more than "reflect" they tend to "influence" reality (most of the time in order to serve a vested interest) here in the country.

[Trajano]

Hirap naman ng thread na ito. Doon na lang ako sa Showbiz Tsismis.

[imprezawrxsti]

came across this article here in US , and proud to know that fil - am are doing better than most of the minority even comparable to educated jews. what bothers me is the statement na " tendency to procrastinate himself " when he is on his way to the top, err, something to that effect..

[empy]

Bullseye! Just look at the government when something happens, i.e. disaster, OFW's in Lebanon, everyone just points fingers at each other and nobody takes responsibility and says that they F*%* up and they will take responsibilty. It all goes back to lack of ethics and discipline.

agreed, and thank you for reinforcing my point.

i also want to say that i don't see this just as the government's failing. every citizen that votes for an incompetent or corrupt official, bribes a traffic enforcer, practices pintas or crab mentality or thinks "bahala na"/"pwede na yan"...all those people contribute to the problem.

[Fast Eddie]

Hirap naman ng thread na ito. Doon na lang ako sa Showbiz Tsismis.

ako rin, di ko maintindihan ung ibig sabihin nung thread starter. halo-halo ng opinion ko dito. i just shared my best shot.

[oldblue]

media is not wholly at fault here. after all, it only reflects reality. as the thread suggest, WE, all of us, are the problem. so instead of pointing fingers, why dont we own up to it, and start acting and doing something about it. this is still our ship. even if its sinking, its still our ship.

media does not reflect reality. they just televise and broadcast. and some people not knowing the difference, tend to believe it's reality.

learned this the hard way too. subukan nyo sumama sa mga successful na tao like leaders, businessmen, execs, vp's, presidents and even politicians ... and coverse with them. pag media news lang ang source mo, sigurado either pagtatawanan ka or they'll ignore you or avoid you na lang. yan napala ko minsan sinama ako ng dad ko sa golf course.

if these kind of people give in sa mga pinagsasabi sa media, sa write-ups, articles and everything, malamang noon pati mga private corporations nag-fold na sa ultra super negative news ng Pilipinas.

sometimes it's so convenient for us to blame the govt. blame the people blame the filipino standard of living, pero yun sweldo natin, yun trabaho natin ngaun, yun status natin ngaun we usually take for granted. if leaders /company execs are like us, if they think the way we do, if they get affected the way we do, malamang noon pa pati sila gumive-up na.

[Karding]

Hirap naman ng thread na ito. Doon na lang ako sa Showbiz Tsismis.

dun na lang tayo sa "Ang Kagandahan ng Pinay" saka "Angelica Panganiban" thread

[CtrlAltDel]

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The sad thing is, when you start to assert your rights, to demand excellence, you get labeled as "maarte".

I noticed that, too. If you try and assert your right, ikaw pa ang masama at wala kang kakampi. You're all alone because the bystanders think maarte ka nga. This is wrong. We lack so much education about our rights.

OT:

Example lang. I bought 3 kilos of bird seed, the tindera measured the weight on the scale which was sitting on the floor. As you can imagine, talo ako sa timbang kasi her view of the scale is from an angle above making the needle look like it's on the 3 kilo mark when in fact it's less than that. Sabi ko pwede ba tingnan mo yung timbang sa eye level? Ang sama pa ng sagot, at tama daw yun. I insisted so she poured a little bit more on the bag BUT only to make me shut up NOT because she agreed it was the right thing to do. Man, we have a lot to learn!

[rlp1099]

but sometimes things work.....

case in point:

we had to bring in a foreign national taga Bangalore, phone call here and there, the usual network of friends and alumni,

yung mga principals na puti as usual needed things done yesterday

kami mga consultants and project managers "steady pulso" lang
yung interphase namin na local team maayos kausap naman and delivered

result: 500 new jobs

formula: western "can do" mixed with pinoy diskarte

roadblocks: would you believe kapwa mo pa noypi? pero that's only one in a gamut...
things were getting racial between the principals with their matter of fact bluntness (pero i must admit) mas madali silang kausap, yung mga taga bangalore at kaming home growns

halo na talaga sa cross cultural think local act global chuvaness ito...egos were bruised skins became thicker...but that's reality

sarap ng feeling going live and everyone did a good job and no blood was shed for a change

[GasJunkie]

Good to see discussion is alive and well. To also see "nuggets" of inspiration...time to take it past cyberspace?

Would you take us to the promise land?

[midinite]

came across this article here in US , and proud to know that fil - am are doing better than most of the minority even comparable to educated jews. what bothers me is the statement na " tendency to procrastinate himself " when he is on his way to the top, err, something to that effect..

Question is...why is Pinas behind other countries in South East Asia. Would it be too much to assume more like the bottom? If the Pinoy does well outside as your article states. And yet, countries like Singapore that is devoid of natural resources is far ahead with almost no unemployment. Could it be that Singapore is more open minded too? It imports talent and uses this for technology transfer. That could be (and I stress could be) how Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia (which is surpassing Pinas - in my field) have done it as well. By not being isolationist? Just an opinion

[midinite]

dun na lang tayo sa "Ang Kagandahan ng Pinay" saka "Angelica Panganiban" thread

IMHO, this could be part of the malaise

[GasJunkie]

IMHO, this could be part of the malaise

Of course just asking what are we suppose to do is better.

Would you take us to the promise land?