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    #171
    They won't get sympathy from the middle class if they keep on disrupting their lives.

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    #172
    They are not trying to get the sympathy of the middle class who has double standards. They are trying to voice out their sentiments. What did they do that people from people power 1 & 2 did not do? Hindi ba nang abala din ng motorista tayo those days? Hindi ba inabala din natin ang business communities those days? Let them be, stop complaining about these people and have some tolerance. It is their right as long as it is peaceful. If you believe in the "rule of law" then I don't see any problem you understanding "democracy".

    Peace!

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    #173
    Quote Originally Posted by zeagle
    They are not trying to get the sympathy of the middle class who has double standards. They are trying to voice out their sentiments. What did they do that people from people power 1 & 2 did not do? Hindi ba nang abala din ng motorista tayo those days? Hindi ba inabala din natin ang business communities those days? Let them be, stop complaining about these people and have some tolerance. It is their right as long as it is peaceful. If you believe in the "rule of law" then I don't see any problem you understanding "democracy".

    Peace!
    tama naman si mr. zeagle...

    para kasing pwede sa inyo...di pwede sa kanila.

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    #174
    problem is chief, with regards to edsa 1 and 2. . .wala na talagang space dahil sa volume ng tao to move to let traffic through. . the recent rally was about 5-7k lang and would definitely be easier to move. . . :\ im not saying na bawal .. heck, i dont mind them voicing out their statements in public. wag lang sila mandamay (na sobrang obvious na hinarangan) kahit pwede nga sila dun sa side road. .
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    #175
    Quote Originally Posted by zeagle
    They are not trying to get the sympathy of the middle class who has double standards. They are trying to voice out their sentiments. What did they do that people from people power 1 & 2 did not do? Hindi ba nang abala din ng motorista tayo those days? Hindi ba inabala din natin ang business communities those days? Let them be, stop complaining about these people and have some tolerance. It is their right as long as it is peaceful. If you believe in the "rule of law" then I don't see any problem you understanding "democracy".

    Peace!
    Well, it is our right also to complain about them disrupting our daily lives.

    After working for more than 12 hours, I think that I deserve the right to pass through EDSA without these unnecessary obstructions.

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    #176
    Can they really claim to bring the country back to progress, eh sa EDSA pa lang sila na yung dahilan ng traffic?

    Quote Originally Posted by zeagle
    Hindi ba nang abala din ng motorista tayo those days? Hindi ba inabala din natin ang business communities those days?
    At least back in EDSA 2, even the motorists AND the business community were expressing their support with the rallyists' cause.

    What would you expect from a "united" opposition that doesn't even have a clear idea of who/what to replace the existing government with? Chaos, plain and simple. Just one look at the protagonists is enough to make you stop. The Left wingers AND the Marcoses on the same side, with the only thing binding their shaky and laughable alliance is a supposedly common enemy? If they finally manage to get their wish and send Mrs. Arroyo packing from Malacaņang, I would absolutely love to see their faces as they face the next most important question: "Now what?"

    That's definitely one for the books.
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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Article XI, Section 3.5 of the Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines

    No impeachment proceedings shall be initiated against the same official more than once within a period of one year.
    i might be wrong, and i don't know the law, pero diba iba ang proceedings sa complains? so kahit ilang complains pa yan, basta wala pang proceddings valid pa rin yun or dapat i combined kung pareho lang ang complains? let's say meron tatlong complains na betrayal of public trust, so dapat maging isang complain loang yun since pareho lang yun right? so when does proceeding start? pag file ng complain, proceeding na ba yun? ang intindi ko athe proceeding starts pag napunta na sa senate and nag start na maging judges ang mga senators.? i might be wrong though.... so sa para sa akin mali yun ginawa ng mga pro gma congresmen dahil dapat na combined na yun 3 complains to 1....just like in an ordinary court pag meron taong dinemanda ng estafa and marami ang complainants so ang gagawin ng fiscal eh magiging isang complain na lang yun magiging large scale estafa yun since pareho lahat na estafa complains yun...

    kung tama ako dapat pwede pa rin mag file ng complains ngayon until walang pang proceedings sa senate... nalito na rin ako sa sinabi ko ah...ah ewan bahala na sila....
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    #178
    The real objective of these rallyists is not to express their sentiments, but to plunge this country to anarchy. They want to create anarchy so that they can blame it on GMA. They want to create instability with the hope of driving investors away so that if our economy collapses, they can blame it on GMA for refusing to step down.

    Instead of getting sympathy from the rest of the population, they are only trying to degrade themselves as nothing but troublemakers.

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    #179
    GMA should have been impeached, if only for her to be given the time of day to prove her innocence or unravel her guilt. But the House voted on it, it wasn't some arbitrary decision on the part of the majority, although it was their stand in the first place. The opposition tried, but there was simply too much flip-flopping in their ranks to make any real difference in the outcome. Too bad their theatrics weren't as dramatic as the ones used to oust the previous president. Considering that the opposition's Erap was a former actor, it's turning out that the present administration gave a better acting performance the last time around.

    The opposition can always try again next year, if they still have the heart for it, that is.

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    #180
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow
    i might be wrong, and i don't know the law, pero diba iba ang proceedings sa complains?
    .. eto rin ang aking initial understanding .. but it appears that since the amended complaints are coming from different complainants .. then it is to be considered separate for a separate proceeding .. too many constitutional experts have conflicting views on this which leads me to agree that it would still be the decision of congress which one they would agree upon ..

    .. in anycase .. ang masasabi ko lang sa mga rallyista .. they have the freedom to have a peaceful assembly because we have a democracy .. but they should not abuse this .. sabi nga nila freedom without responsibility is anarchy not democracy ..

    .. the thing is .. it's the same people that we see in the pro-resign, pro-impeach, anti-gma rallies .. they aren't winning any new support IMO .. so kahit na anong consolidate pa gawin nila sa opposition ... ilang rally ang i-hold nila ... ilang signature campaigns pa ang gawin nila .. it's of no consequence .. they aren't gaining new support because i think the (silent) majority just wants to get on with their lives .. and the opposition are alienating the majority with their attempt to destablize the gov't ..

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