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    Article posted August 30, 2005

    Impeach bid crashes as House panel rejects amended complaint

    The majority-dominated House justice committee on Tuesday effectively struck down the amended complaint of the opposition by declaring that the original complaint filed by lawyer Oliver Lozano was distinct and separate.

    Thus, the House panel could only tackle the Lozano complaint, which was considered the weakest among the three impeachment cases.

    The Lozano version was the basis of the amended complaint filed by the opposition against President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

    The crashing defeat of the House impeach team came after 52 members of the 90-man justice committee voted to declare the Lozano complaint as separate from the amended complaint of the opposition.


    The amended Lozano complaint, therefore, violates the ban against initiating more than one complaint against the President in one year.

    Reps. Teddyboy Locsin (Makati City) and Antonino Roman (Bataan) abstained from the lopsided voting.

    Pro-impeachment members of the justice committee did not vote as they joined the earlier walk out that marred the voting.

    Senior House deputy minority leader Rep. Alan Peter Cayetano, impeachment spokesman, said the amended complaint was now "clinically dead."

    The amended version has included charges of alleged human rights violations by Mrs. Arroyo and illegal gambling by members of her family aside from the betrayal of public trust.

    Cayetano said the next move of the House justice panel is to bar on Wednesday the two other complaints: the amended version and the complaint filed by a certain Jose Lopez.

    He said the Lozano complaint would surely be junked by the House justice committee since aside from being weak, it was not verified.

    The House impeachment team, however, could still overturn the panel ruling if it would be able to gather 79 votes during the plenary voting.

    The ruling of the justice panel could be over ruled by at least 79 votes in the 236-man plenary and send the complaint straight to the Senate for trial.

    WALK OUT

    The minority-instigated walk out was prompted after Maguindanao Rep. Simeon Datumanong, House justice panel, terminated the debates and opted to conduct a voting.

    Datumanong likewise shot down a motion by Surigao del Norte Rep. Robert Ace Barbers to discuss the allegations earlier made by former Secretary Dinky Soliman.

    Barbers also urged the House panel to summon Soliman and presidential political adviser Gabriel Claudio to shed light on the issue.

    Soliman bared that Malacanan hatched the impeachment complaint filed by lawyer Oliver Lozano and that nolessthan Claudio orchestrated its endorsement by party-list Rep. Rodante Marcoleta.

    Susan Roces, widow of the late Fernando Poe Jr, and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay -- who were seated at the gallery -- also joined the walk out.

    Before the walk out, House security personnel dragged some members of militant groups out of the gallery after trying to unfurl anti-Arroyo banner during the hearing of the House justice panel.

    The militants were seated in the gallery when they were caught about the display banners bearing anti-Gloria slogans.

    The groups were later led out of the gallery.

    As of Tuesday, the House impeachment team was still short of numbers to get 79 signatures and send the complaint straight to the Senate.

    South Cotabato Rep. Darlene Antonino-Custodio said so far only 49 congressmen have officially signed the complaint.

    Las Pinas Rep. Cynthia Villar, wife of Senator Manuel Villar, was the latest endorser of the impeachment complaint.

    Villar, a member of the Nacionalista Party, signed the complaint Tuesday after arriving from China.

    The House impeachment team found it hard to recruit more to their side as Malacanan exhausted all its influence to dissuade congressmen from joining the impeachment bandwagon.

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    nagtataka lang ako... at wala pa yung issue dito.

    bat ganun? sabi ng administrasyon "bring your evidence to congress".

    tapos haharangin din pala...

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    onga e, sabi ni gloria, sasagutin nya lahat ng issues sa impeachment, pero hinaharang naman. obvious na meron talagang tinatago. tapos narinig ko pa sa radyo na yung mga relatives ng mga congressmen na pipirma na dapat sa impeachment, binibigyan ng magandang pwesto sa government, like yung isa daw sa customs, tapos yung isa ginawang judge sa district nya.
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    mukhang guilty msyado c GMA, kapal ng mukha ng unano e no

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    Delaying tactics.

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    sa tingin ko mas madaming alas si gma kaya di siya takot bwt impeachment, as compared to erap na medyo naubusan siya ng alas that time, sa tingin ko whatever rally is stages di yan bababa, hawak pa siya ni fidel, which controls military in a way, so di pa pede opposition ang maghari, tactics lang yan ni gma to delay until there would be a good picture for her to show, tipong saving another angelo delacruz, which will win ng heart of pinoy, humahanap lang gma timing

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    onga e, sabi ni gloria, sasagutin nya lahat ng issues sa impeachment, pero hinaharang naman. obvious na meron talagang tinatago. tapos narinig ko pa sa radyo na yung mga relatives ng mga congressmen na pipirma na dapat sa impeachment, binibigyan ng magandang pwesto sa government, like yung isa daw sa customs, tapos yung isa ginawang judge sa district nya.
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    halata naman na may sala talaga si gloria.. pinatatagal lang niya.. kung anu anu pang palusot sinasabe

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    hindi talaga pwedeng pagkatiwalaan si PGMA,
    super sinungaling.

    she's bribing the solons and the military na lang to stay in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odell
    halata naman na may sala talaga si gloria.. pinatatagal lang niya.. kung anu anu pang palusot sinasabe
    right... bro Odell..

    sabi nga sa tagalog

    "kung ayaw ,may dahilan"( ayaw bumababa ,kaya kung ano- ano ang dahilan )

    "kung gusto, may paraan"( Gusto pa kasi umupo ,kaya panay gawa ng paraan)



    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    mukhang guilty msyado c GMA, kapal ng mukha ng unano e no

    grabe na ito pakapalan na talaga ..ang hirap non di ko ini-expect sa isang babae ang ganon lalo na may mataas pa na pinag-aralan..

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    lagi kong sinasabi... aanhin mo ang katalinuhan kung ginagamit sa kasamaan? daig mo pa ung sinasabi nilang mga mangmang.

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    correct ka diyan ICB...

    ang bagal ng tsikot....

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    opposition tripping on its own incompetence .. always a step behind .. the walkout was expected .. so when it happened .. parang .. ok .. nagwalk out sila .. ano ngayon? .. too many grandstanding pro-impeachment people .. parang lahat sila kailangan magsalita .. lahat kailangan may camara na nakatutok sa kanila .. di tuloy malaman kung sino pakikinggan .. tuloy .. kahit may sense sana yung gusto nilang sabihin .. natatabunan lang .. <yawn> .. on to the next farce ..

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    Good cause... wrong crowd... too bad.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    onga e, sabi ni gloria, sasagutin nya lahat ng issues sa impeachment, pero hinaharang naman. obvious na meron talagang tinatago. tapos narinig ko pa sa radyo na yung mga relatives ng mga congressmen na pipirma na dapat sa impeachment, binibigyan ng magandang pwesto sa government, like yung isa daw sa customs, tapos yung isa ginawang judge sa district nya.
    It only means one thing: Nobody in the opposition is really into the impeachment case. All for show and publicity gimmick lamang.

    Now that they throw the white towel proves only that required effort to impeach the president is not really their motivation.

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    Im not Pro GMA pero sino ba talaga gusto ng opposisyon na ipalit sa kanya?? in case na matuloy ang impeachment ano mangyayari?? masasayang ng oras nila sa kaka hearing nyan hindi na nila magagawa ang dapat na trabaho nila na gumawa ng batas at maunlarin ang pilipinas...Bakit ba hindi na uso yang ganyan during Marcos times?? dahil ba takot sila kay macoy?? ahhh ang gulo talaga di ko ma intindihan sino nag sasabi ng totoo.. Buti pa mag palipad nalang ako ng eroplanong Papel sa senado hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66bunny
    It only means one thing: Nobody in the opposition is really into the impeachment case. All for show and publicity gimmick lamang.

    Now that they throw the white towel proves only that required effort to impeach the president is not really their motivation.
    My thoughts exactly.

    Instead of working their assess off to try to secure the needed 79 votes they instead walked out like they were heroes of some sort. They should watch Legally Blonde 2 for some inspiration and even guidance.

    We should get over this nonsense ASAP so that people can work on the real needs of the Filipino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRock
    Im not Pro GMA pero sino ba talaga gusto ng opposisyon na ipalit sa kanya?? in case na matuloy ang impeachment ano mangyayari??
    well, IF the opposition wants to follow the constitution, si kabayan ang next in command. no ifs or buts. . pag matuloy ang impeachment tapos matanggal si GMA, si ka noli ang susunod. . . which is not that bad for the economy as it still follows the constitution and not riling up (or paying) people (perallyista) to go to the streets and cause a ruckus.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink
    opposition tripping on its own incompetence .. always a step behind .. the walkout was expected .. so when it happened .. parang .. ok .. nagwalk out sila .. ano ngayon? .. too many grandstanding pro-impeachment people .. parang lahat sila kailangan magsalita .. lahat kailangan may camara na nakatutok sa kanila .. di tuloy malaman kung sino pakikinggan .. tuloy .. kahit may sense sana yung gusto nilang sabihin .. natatabunan lang .. <yawn> .. on to the next farce ..
    nice insight mrpink
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink
    opposition tripping on its own incompetence .. always a step behind .. the walkout was expected .. so when it happened .. parang .. ok .. nagwalk out sila .. ano ngayon? .. too many grandstanding pro-impeachment people .. parang lahat sila kailangan magsalita .. lahat kailangan may camara na nakatutok sa kanila .. di tuloy malaman kung sino pakikinggan .. tuloy .. kahit may sense sana yung gusto nilang sabihin .. natatabunan lang .. <yawn> .. on to the next farce ..
    c'mon people... what do you expect? syempre gagawin ng pro GMA lahat ng kaya nila para manalo; the opposition should do the same. you just cant expect gloria's people to sit on their hands and watch the other side win.

    i agree with mrpink. what did they accomplish sa walkout nila? they should get their act together if they really want to take down this presidency.

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    another reason why not to watch, listen to or read the news.

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