Tenant and Owner Obligation

[earthlyken]

Hello Fellow Tsikoters,

Meron kasi kaming Condo na pinapaupahan, now gusto kolang sana makuha side niyo kung sino ang dapat gumastos sa pagpapaayos.

1. Nasira Gripo may leak?
2. Nasira Handle nang shower knob?
3. Ceiling nag warp?
4. Marble floor nagkaroon na long and deep crack?

Binigay naman namin yung unit na bared with all things functioning properly, now kasi may nasisira at pinapaayos samin..

sino ba dapat sumagot sa mga nasisira sa unit kagaya ng mga naka indicate sa taas..

Hope to hear from you all.

Thank you

[_Cathy_]

In our case, all major repairs are at our expense EXCEPT if the damage was cause by the lessee. That should be indicated in your lease contract.

If I were in your place, I will shoulder 1 to 3. Bawas na lang sa rental yung small repairs like 1 and 2. 4 - how did it crack? Marble floors are practically indestructible

Not sure how it goes for condos, house yung rentals namin. I'm thinking baka mas mahirap magpa major repair sa condo.

[cast_no_shadow]

Ano nga nakalagay sa contract niyo?

Agree with Cathy, for 1 - 3 sagot yun ng lessor / landlord.

Kaya nga usually 1 month advance 2 months deposit.

Doon papasok yung deposit, for repairs and utility bills na maiiwan nung tenant.


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[Bin Diesel]

Sa contract ko at ng umuupa sa akin nakalagay yung mga repairs needed due to wear should be shouldered by the lessee. Pero kung major repair na dahil sa bagyo or any natural disaster ako na sumasagot.

Sa inuupahan ko naman na apartment ako sumasagot lahat kahit mga nasirang tubo ng tubig, gripo at kung anu-ano pa.

[12vdc]

Usually sa lessor yan wear n tear kaya merong association fees charged ang security, elevator maintenance, lightning, & garbage disposal/janitorial services, pero depende parin sa contract.

[_Cathy_]

Usually sa lessor yan wear n tear kaya merong association fees charged ang security, elevator maintenance, lightning, & garbage disposal/janitorial services, pero depende parin sa contract.

You mean lessee? Wear and tear samin shouldered ng tenant eg bulbs and flush

[_Cathy_]

Waiting for EQ and Mr Big's take on this

EDIT: in our contract 1 and 2 are considered wear and tear pala. But when tenant requests, we have them repair/replace and deduct the cost na lang sa rental fee. Goodwill na namin. We want our tenants to stay as long as possible

Pero pag end of contact, just like what cns said, everything should be in good working condition, then we use the deposit if needed

[12vdc]

Wear and tear at lessor
Consumables at lessee

Wear and tear like shower head, toilet tank flush, faucet/U-trap sa lavatory at kitchen sink, valves, door knob(except due to negligence/nalimutan susi at winarak), paint, tiles,ceiling, cupboard, cabinet hinges, aircon bracket, intercom, light switch & AC outlet. Sama na kung kasama sa lease ang hood range, cook top, water heater, ACU, ref like sa airBNB.

Consumables & improvements/accessories like faucet valve gasket, light bulbs, blinds, furniture ng tenant

[papi smith]

Opinion ko lang, 1&2 sa tenant, 3&4 sa owner.

Hindi ko alam ano correct term dun sa first two but these things are subject to the tenant "traffic" or things na subject to mis-use, therefore resulting in unnecessary damage. Syempre may qualification din, like kung kakalipat pa lang at tumulo gripo, then baka faulty yung item na nabili.

Sa 3, sa owner because walang kinalaman ang tenant dun unless they have kids who shoot water guns at the ceiling, it can be either due to poor workmanship or tulo from the unit above, not the fault of the tenant.

Likewise with 4, if it cracked due to something heavy dropped by tenant, syempre charge sa kanya.

Again opinion ko lang ito and what for me is fair to both parties.

[_Cathy_]

Wear and tear at lessor
Consumables at lessee

Wear and tear like shower head, toilet tank flush, faucet/U-trap sa lavatory at kitchen sink, valves, door knob(except due to negligence/nalimutan susi at winarak), paint, tiles,ceiling, cupboard, cabinet hinges, aircon bracket, intercom, light switch & AC outlet. Sama na kung kasama sa lease ang hood range, cook top, water heater, ACU, ref like sa airBNB.

Consumables & improvements/accessories like faucet valve gasket, light bulbs, blinds, furniture ng tenant

Wow that is a solid lease contract.

[MR_BIG18]

Hello Fellow Tsikoters,

Meron kasi kaming Condo na pinapaupahan, now gusto kolang sana makuha side niyo kung sino ang dapat gumastos sa pagpapaayos.

1. Nasira Gripo may leak?
2. Nasira Handle nang shower knob?
3. Ceiling nag warp?
4. Marble floor nagkaroon na long and deep crack?

Binigay naman namin yung unit na bared with all things functioning properly, now kasi may nasisira at pinapaayos samin..

sino ba dapat sumagot sa mga nasisira sa unit kagaya ng mga naka indicate sa taas..

Hope to hear from you all.

Thank you

Whats on the contract? Naka state sa contracts namin: if damage is less than 1k, its the tennants that will shoulder the repairs...example if door knob only...if faucets, switches are wear and tear..its the lessor, mga drainage problem, sa tennants, water damage ba yung ceilling? Lessors also..marble floor if accidental damage, tennants...kaya ngayon pag humihingi kami ng deposit..3 months na

[12vdc]

Kung tumulo, palit lang ng gasket si building admin maintenance at charge kay tenant ang gasket.

Kung warp ceiling dahil tumagas U-trap sa upper floors, sagot ni building admin ang repair charged sa association fees.

Kung sira elevator, 1M worth ang control board ni Shiendler charged kay buidling admin thru assoc fees.

If proven damage was due to negligence, kay tenant charge

Just like a car, kung nasira aircon within 1yr warranty ng AC manufacturer at pwede mo contest sa 3yrs dahil hindi mo naman binili yung car na walang aircon..hehe

[ice15]

I agree with the earlier posts... depende so contract.

In our case...
Minor repairs first 5k sagot nung nag-rent, in excess sa amin na.

If damage was due to wear and tear (ceiling/tiles fell off) then sa amin yun.

Holes sa wall, cracked floor/tiles - bawas sa deposit.

We also stated sa contract na "any improvement made will not be reimbursed by the owner"

Best is to take photos of the place before signing the contract tapos yung printed photos to be kept by both parties...

[MR_BIG18]

We have a new tenant, theyll move in on april 29, this is how it looks like now...its an office and a bodega combined...around 160sqm





I gave it for a nice price, with the a condition that they improve the place...tenant is a protestant church...