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  1. Join Date
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    #41
    anu na kaya nangyari sa kaso?

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    #42
    Sa palagay ko kaya naman nilang sabayan ang rates ng sun, nanghihinayang lang ang mga lintek na mabawasan ang malalaki nilang kita.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by falken
    Sa palagay ko kaya naman nilang sabayan ang rates ng sun, nanghihinayang lang ang mga lintek na mabawasan ang malalaki nilang kita.
    [SIZE=3]MISMO!!

    If you can recall, these too companies reported annual net gain of at least 15-20% for 2004 compared to the previous year. So, worry nila na kung mag-change sila ng game plan, they might not reach their goal for the year and its going to disappoint the shareholders!

    Then again, it all boils down to money and profitability! MONEY, MONEY, MONEY and translates to GREED,GREED,GREED kasi hindi na nila makayanan kung they'll lose some of it and resort to legal battles to regain their advantage which to me, by the way, sounds inherently evil :evillaugh !!
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    Last edited by cyberdoc95; February 9th, 2005 at 07:02 AM.

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    #44
    Simple lang naman e. parang langis lang yan bro, kapag ang isang oil player nagbaba ng presyo sa halagang Php6.50/liter or lesser aalma din ang mga giant oil firms. ang DEREGULATION PROCESS na pinatutupad ng government ay hindi lang sa sobrang pagtaas ng isang produkto ganon din syempre sa sobrang pagbaba nito.

    Subukan nyo mag-franchise ng Jollibee or McDonalds tapos ibigay mo ang burgers mo sa mababang presyo sa consumers.... Malamang sa malamang kung hindi kayo ipasasara ng gobyerno kusa na kayong magsasara kasi lugi na negosyo kasi wala naman kayong kinikita. makapanggulo lang kayo sa industriya masaya na kayo. hehe..... sana kung masarap (QUALITY of SERVICE) ang burgers mo? e kung lasang nutriban naman!

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by tagalnasaabroad
    sa ganang akin mas nakikinabang ako sa smart from where i am..kung me problema sila sa competition who cares..at the end of the day consumer parin makikinabang..

    from wikipedia, the free encyclopedia..
    "Deregulation is the process by which governments remove selected regulations on business in order to (in theory) encourage the efficient operation of markets. The theory is that fewer regulations will lead to a raised level of competitivness, therefore higher productivity, more efficiency and lower prices overall. Deregulation is different from liberalization because a liberalized market, allowing any number of players, can be regulated to protect the consumer's rights, especially to prevent de facto or even legal oligopolies.."
    Have no doubt about it!


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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by silver_corolla
    Simple lang naman e. parang langis lang yan bro, kapag ang isang oil player nagbaba ng presyo sa halagang Php6.50/liter or lesser aalma din ang mga giant oil firms. ang DEREGULATION PROCESS na pinatutupad ng government ay hindi lang sa sobrang pagtaas ng isang produkto ganon din syempre sa sobrang pagbaba nito.

    Subukan nyo mag-franchise ng Jollibee or McDonalds tapos ibigay mo ang burgers mo sa mababang presyo sa consumers.... Malamang sa malamang kung hindi kayo ipasasara ng gobyerno kusa na kayong magsasara kasi lugi na negosyo kasi wala naman kayong kinikita. makapanggulo lang kayo sa industriya masaya na kayo. hehe..... sana kung masarap (QUALITY of SERVICE) ang burgers mo? e kung lasang nutriban naman!
    ang jollibee is same brand.. like pag smart sa smart.. globe sa globe... ang labas nito is like mcdo and jollibee... walang masama dun.. sa opinion ko.. service?. i think their upgrading

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    #47
    sun cell answers back...

    Cell phone company defends new service
    By Rainier Allan Ronda and Mary Anne Reyes
    The Philippine Star 02/09/2005

    The country's two leading telecommunication firms Globe Telecom and Smart Communications are denying the public the freedom to choose the right kind of cellular phone service to fit their needs.

    In a statement, Digitel senior vice president William Pamintuan said Globe and Smart were stifling the consumers' freedom of choice when they filed a petition before the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) to stop Sun Cellular from providing a cheaper cellular phone service.

    "They (Globe and Smart) should let the consumer decide. We should let the market decide, not the regulators (NTC)," Pamintuan told a news briefing yesterday.

    Pamintuan claimed it was obvious that the two cellular service providers filed the petition because of Sun Cellular's successful marketing of its "24/7" unlimited call and text service.

    The 24/7 service offers unlimited calls and texting among Sun-to-Sun subscribers per month for an additional P250 for pre-paid and post-paid subscribers.

    Post-paid plan holders can subscribe to the service by paying a minimum fee of P250 every month on top of their current plans while pre-paid subscribers can load P100 valid for 10 days and load option of P250 valid for 30 days.

    The service, originally offered as a promotional campaign by Digitel, was made permanent after thousands of new customers were drawn in. The promo has been popular among college students and low-income consumers.

    The success of 24/7 service drove the company's subscriber base to 1.1 million as of end-December last year.

    Pamintuan pointed out Smart and Globe are the two dominant cellular firms with more than 95 percent of the market.

    Compared to these two giants, Sun Cellular is a very small competitor with less than five percent of the market, he said.

    Pamintuan said the rapid growth of Sun's subscriber base from about 700,000 to some 1.5 million since October following the successful launch of its 24/7 service "had a lot to do" with the "sudden" petition filed by the two cellular service giants before the NTC.

    He said the petition urging the NTC to put a stop on Sun Cellular's successful marketing strategy does not do any good for the public.

    Through their respective subsidiaries - Innove for Globe and Piltel for Smart - the two cellular phone companies charged that Sun was practicing "predatory" or cut-throat competition pricing in offering its 24/7 service.

    The complainants wanted the NTC to set all call rates at P5.50 per minute and bar Sun Cellular for charging much lower rates.

    The NTC said it will give paramount consideration to the consuming public in deciding on the separate petitions filed by Globe and Smart.

    "At the end of the day, we would take into account what would benefit the consumers," NTC chairman Ronald Solis said.

    Solis had arranged a meeting last Monday among the top officials of the three cellular phone service firms "for a pre-trial."

    "I called the CEOs to a meeting so they can make a presentation. This is in consonance with (our) desire as regulator to find a solution," Solis told reporters following the closed-door meeting with the officials at the NTC yesterday.

    Among those at the meeting were Gil Genio, president of Innove; Napoleon Nazareno, president of Smart Communications; and Lance Gokongwei, chief executive officer of Sun Cellular and his uncle James Go, director of Digitel.

    "We want to strike a win-win solution, a compromise," Solis said. "There are proposals placed on the table but I cannot divulge them."

    Industry sources revealed the NTC is drafting a policy which will clearly define "discriminatory pricing," as was alleged by Globe and Smart against Sun Cellular.

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    #48
    Just consider na lang “the technical aspect” of the complaint against 24/7.

    "We have to wary about the possibility of a system crash. There's no system that can sustain the 24/7 plan. The system will crash,...."

    Kawawa subscribers dito in the long run....tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

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    #49
    imo sun is on the right track, they may be also greedy but at least they have the consumer interest in mind. unlike the two giants e basta big kita kame hehe

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    #50
    Well... thats why i still have my globe and smart (sim lang ha.. d ako mayaman to have multitude of phones) for backup purposes... hehehe.

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