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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactus View Post
    Don't fall for the cheap China-made tiles which cost less that Php 25.00 a pop (8X10 yata ang size nun). It may look good at first, but in a span of 1 year, mabilis mag-fade and stain easily. Learned this lesson the hard way.

    Go for the branded ones (Mariwasa, Eurotiles, etc.). Also, better to use tile adhesive than plain old cement, although old-fashioned installers may tell you otherwise.
    And the cheap China tiles usually have inconsistent thickness which will give your tiler a PITA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthlyken View Post
    Thank you guys for all the inputs..do you guys have any idea on the pricing ng tile? Where planning to put 40x40 yung size..magkano kaya po per piece nun?
    Sir hindi po advisable na mabilad ang tiles, me tendency po na mag crack ito. Baka gusto mo ung finish na ginagamitan ng pebbles (wash-out finish).

    Also, based on experience ung roof slab in the long run (minsan kahit bago pa) nagkakaroon ng hairline cracks at napapasukan ng tubig, which will cause ng pagtulo sa ilalim or worse kakalawangin ung reinforcemnt bars mo at later makikita mo na lang pumuputok ung kisame (cement finish) dahil nag expand na ung rebars.

    Kung kaya pa ng budget mo palagyan mo na lang ng bubong, then saka mo palagyan ng tiles.

    Kung final na ung slab mo at hindi mo lalagyan ng bubong, make sure na hindi maiipunan ng tubig ung ibabaw otherwise sakit ng ulo mo yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    Sir hindi po advisable na mabilad ang tiles, me tendency po na mag crack ito. Baka gusto mo ung finish na ginagamitan ng pebbles (wash-out finish).

    Ay, roofdeck pala? I had mine coated with elastomeric paint. 4 coats (initial) para matibay, and recoat nalang every year before the rainy season.

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    Magk-crack yun pag hindi maganda ang semento, or yung mix mismo ng aggregates. Class AA mix dapat or better (ASTM spec) pag slab.

    Anyway, make sure na everything goes down the drain immediately and no pooling of water. Also watch out for water track. Saan ba yan pupunta pag nanjan na.

    Elastomeric works as a sealant but you can also use bituminous membrane.

    Good luck with your foreman. Nakakatakot yang ginawa mo that you hired an amateur for your own house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Good luck with your foreman. Nakakatakot yang ginawa mo that you hired an amateur for your own house.
    And he's asking the tsikot siraniko's for feedback on how to build the house. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    And he's asking the tsikot siraniko's for feedback on how to build the house. :D
    yeah, I hope walang magbigay ng kalokohan na advice sa kanya.

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    Mahal ang steel deck pero pwede mo naman nipisan ang concrete slab, part of the load can be carried by the steel deck.

    Pag nag wood formworks ka, thicker ang slab mo, need mo din i-consider na ung wood formworks after ng buhos ay tatangalin mo at madalas hindi mo ma re-use kaya tapon na.

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    Ang pag gamit ng steel decking ay para ka lang nagkakabit ng bubong, ang pang putol nga lan ang angle grinder (mahirapan ang gagawa kung gunting), ang dugtungan ay secured with self tapping screw (need mo power tools/electric drill). wag ka na magtipid sa paglalagay ng bakal, kung kaya mo naman. Bahay mo yan kaya ok lang na mag over design.

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    Base sa pag babasa ko. Mahal ang cost sa material ng metal ibeam and flooring pero less sa cost man power and time.. sa cement naman ay less ang cost ng material pero mataas sa man power and time..
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    Kung sa tibay. Almost same lang ang metal at cement construction.. advantage lang ng metal e less space ang need niya.

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    Kung sa tibay. Almost same lang ang metal at cement construction



    Steel vs. concrete (even at 4000psi compressive strength) does not have the compressive strength of steel. Concrete does not have the tensile and shear strength of steel and of course does not have the flexibility of steel.

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    ask your civil engineer who prepared your house plan if you intend for any deviation. tama yung suggestion ng iba, hwag tipirin ang materiales lalo na ang mga steel bars.
    and oh, ensure that you are buying the right spec steel bars... dapat sa mga legitimate hardware shops ka lang bumili

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    ask your civil engineer who prepared your house plan if you intend for any deviation. tama yung suggestion ng iba, hwag tipirin ang materiales lalo na ang mga steel bars.
    and oh, ensure that you are buying the right spec steel bars... dapat sa mga legitimate hardware shops ka lang bumili

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    Also paano ba contrata? labor/materials or labor lang? There are so many pros and cons sa dalawa. Andyan na pag labor materials - titipirin ang materyales. Pag labor lang, andyang pasasakitin ang ulo mo sa materials (aksayado at walang dangga).

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    Kung gagamit ka ng steel deck sa construction ng slab mo, mababawasan ang quantity ng rebar mo sa slab, wala ka nang cost sa slab formworks, ma rereduce ang cost sa shorings and scaffoldings at liliit ang volume ng concrete due to thinner slab thickness. Pero kung hindi maingat ang labor mo sa concreting, nag kakaroon ng honeycomb between slab and beam conection( sa part ng decking), kailangan mong i spot weld sa stirrups/ ties ang decking na kailangan may structural welder ka.

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    On my own opinion pinaka the best ang arawan na may ari ang naka bantay.. midyo costly pero sure ka naman na swave ang gawa. Syempre turing lindol and storm alam mo na ang house mo ang pinaka matibay na structure na sisilungan mo. Hindi ka duda sa tibay else kung tinipid mo..
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    Yung isang setup na naka base sa materials cost. Like 100k na materials na ipapagawa mo e need mo sila bayaran ng 30k to 50k para sa construction. So mas mahal ang materials mo, mas mahal ang bayad sa kanila.
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    Wag na wag ang pakyawan na sa kanila lahat. Andiyan na yung titipirin sa bakal, minsan hindi siksik ang cememt sa block or mababaw ang baon ng poste. Etc..

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    Wag na wag ang pakyawan na sa kanila lahat. Andiyan na yung titipirin sa bakal, minsan hindi siksik ang cememt sa block or mababaw ang baon ng poste. Etc..



    Sa pilipinas pa, walang inspector ang public works kaya substandard ang buildings. Remember Ruby Towers in the '70's?

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