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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Good luck with your foreman. Nakakatakot yang ginawa mo that you hired an amateur for your own house.
    And he's asking the tsikot siraniko's for feedback on how to build the house. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    And he's asking the tsikot siraniko's for feedback on how to build the house. :D
    yeah, I hope walang magbigay ng kalokohan na advice sa kanya.

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    #43
    Thank sa maraming inputs..

    Ang sabi ng tile installer ay pag bago palang yung bahay mas maganda kung adhesive para sa tiles, pero pwede naman raw plain cement kasi tigang paraw yung flooring..not sure what means about tigang..bastos naiisip ko eh..hehe

    Regarding sa open roof..pag kasya pa budget namin, i might have them install a canopy or just plain gi sheet, kasi medyo mainit ung area na open pag tanghali, baka mabilis makacrackyung flooring..we just need to think of a better design para dun..

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    #44
    "tigang" .... means uhaw pa sa tubig. So if cement is used, siguradong kakapit yung tiles sa floor.

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    #45
    Ano nga ulit yung tawag dun sa metal sheet na pinapatong sa biga? Serves as 'sapin' ng slab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    Ano nga ulit yung tawag dun sa metal sheet na pinapatong sa biga? Serves as 'sapin' ng slab.
    steel deck

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    #47
    ^ Thanks sir! Pros and cons of steel deck versus solid cement na slab and versus with wood? Sorry had to ask it here since may firsthand experience mga tao.
    Last edited by leodawesome; November 16th, 2015 at 08:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    ^ Thanks sir! Pros and cons of steel deck versus solid cement na slab and versus with wood? Sorry had to ask it here since may firsthand experience mga tao.
    The steel deck will serve as the concrete slab forms and eventually become part of the slab itself.
    Di hamak na mas mahal ito kumpara sa plywood ang concrete slab forms.

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by leodawesome View Post
    ^ Thanks sir! Pros and cons of steel deck versus solid cement na slab and versus with wood? Sorry had to ask it here since may firsthand experience mga tao.
    Also mas mabilis

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    #50
    thanks for the info.. now im aware that steel decking is faster and more expensive. But correct me if im wrong, steel decking I heard is cost efficient because of the nature of the design (ribs) they might be using lesser steel bars? Also, I wanna know if steel decking is an option that an ordinary construction crew can do.. or is it something that is specialized like only reputable companies will supply this product and service? thank you very much!

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    #51
    Mahal ang steel deck pero pwede mo naman nipisan ang concrete slab, part of the load can be carried by the steel deck.

    Pag nag wood formworks ka, thicker ang slab mo, need mo din i-consider na ung wood formworks after ng buhos ay tatangalin mo at madalas hindi mo ma re-use kaya tapon na.

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    #52
    Ang pag gamit ng steel decking ay para ka lang nagkakabit ng bubong, ang pang putol nga lan ang angle grinder (mahirapan ang gagawa kung gunting), ang dugtungan ay secured with self tapping screw (need mo power tools/electric drill). wag ka na magtipid sa paglalagay ng bakal, kung kaya mo naman. Bahay mo yan kaya ok lang na mag over design.

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    Base sa pag babasa ko. Mahal ang cost sa material ng metal ibeam and flooring pero less sa cost man power and time.. sa cement naman ay less ang cost ng material pero mataas sa man power and time..
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    Kung sa tibay. Almost same lang ang metal at cement construction.. advantage lang ng metal e less space ang need niya.

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    #54
    Kung sa tibay. Almost same lang ang metal at cement construction



    Steel vs. concrete (even at 4000psi compressive strength) does not have the compressive strength of steel. Concrete does not have the tensile and shear strength of steel and of course does not have the flexibility of steel.

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    #55
    ask your civil engineer who prepared your house plan if you intend for any deviation. tama yung suggestion ng iba, hwag tipirin ang materiales lalo na ang mga steel bars.
    and oh, ensure that you are buying the right spec steel bars... dapat sa mga legitimate hardware shops ka lang bumili

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    ask your civil engineer who prepared your house plan if you intend for any deviation. tama yung suggestion ng iba, hwag tipirin ang materiales lalo na ang mga steel bars.
    and oh, ensure that you are buying the right spec steel bars... dapat sa mga legitimate hardware shops ka lang bumili

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    #56
    Also paano ba contrata? labor/materials or labor lang? There are so many pros and cons sa dalawa. Andyan na pag labor materials - titipirin ang materyales. Pag labor lang, andyang pasasakitin ang ulo mo sa materials (aksayado at walang dangga).

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    #57
    Kung gagamit ka ng steel deck sa construction ng slab mo, mababawasan ang quantity ng rebar mo sa slab, wala ka nang cost sa slab formworks, ma rereduce ang cost sa shorings and scaffoldings at liliit ang volume ng concrete due to thinner slab thickness. Pero kung hindi maingat ang labor mo sa concreting, nag kakaroon ng honeycomb between slab and beam conection( sa part ng decking), kailangan mong i spot weld sa stirrups/ ties ang decking na kailangan may structural welder ka.

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    #58
    On my own opinion pinaka the best ang arawan na may ari ang naka bantay.. midyo costly pero sure ka naman na swave ang gawa. Syempre turing lindol and storm alam mo na ang house mo ang pinaka matibay na structure na sisilungan mo. Hindi ka duda sa tibay else kung tinipid mo..
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    Yung isang setup na naka base sa materials cost. Like 100k na materials na ipapagawa mo e need mo sila bayaran ng 30k to 50k para sa construction. So mas mahal ang materials mo, mas mahal ang bayad sa kanila.
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    Wag na wag ang pakyawan na sa kanila lahat. Andiyan na yung titipirin sa bakal, minsan hindi siksik ang cememt sa block or mababaw ang baon ng poste. Etc..

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    #59
    Wag na wag ang pakyawan na sa kanila lahat. Andiyan na yung titipirin sa bakal, minsan hindi siksik ang cememt sa block or mababaw ang baon ng poste. Etc..



    Sa pilipinas pa, walang inspector ang public works kaya substandard ang buildings. Remember Ruby Towers in the '70's?

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