Slab concrete pouring

[earthlyken]

Hello mga fellow tsikoters,

May quick question lang ako, kasi regarding buhos ng 2nd floor slab..

Manual kasi gagawin ng mga tauhan namin, mga nasa 70sqm ang area bubuhusan nila ng semento, now my question here..

Kailangan ba nila buhusan lahat in a day? Or pwede half the area muna then bukas ulit yung other half?

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated..

Kasi ang sabi sakin ng foreman ko ay pwede raw half muna then bukas yung other half, my point here is that pano nila e half yun?

[Manilablock]

Sa malilit na floor slab pwede po basta ung floor slab mo ay suported ng beam, normally ung sa ibabaw ng beam ang putol.

Sample, ang bubuhusan mo ay 2.5m x 7.5m, ang beams mo ay every 2.5m, pwede po na ang buhusan mo muna ay 2.5m x 2.5m.


Pero pag malaking area, ung magkakalayo ang beams mo, mahirap po pag naputol ang buhos bago umabot sa beam, consult po ninyo sa civil engineer na gumawa po ng design ng haws nyo kung saan safe. Pero it is cheaper to hire additional manpower para isang buhusan lang.

[CoDer]

Pwede yan basta ang putol eh sa beam.

[earthlyken]

That you sa reply, ang ibig niyo niyo po sabihin ay sa gitna ng beam ang half buhos? Or before mag beam?


Also hinde poba ma sacrifice ung tibay nun pag half half yung buhos?

[CoDer]

Ok lang yan basta gitna ng beam ang putol, walang sacrifice sa tibay yan.

Although since 70sqm lang naman yung bubuhusan nyo eh mas maganda kung buo na.

[yebo]

kaya yan 1 day, dagdag ka ng tao saka mixer. parehas din naman gastos mo sa manpower, kasi imbes na 2 days bayaran mo maging 1 day na lang doble lang tao.

[9701]

Hello mga fellow tsikoters,

May quick question lang ako, kasi regarding buhos ng 2nd floor slab..

Manual kasi gagawin ng mga tauhan namin, mga nasa 70sqm ang area bubuhusan nila ng semento, now my question here..

Kailangan ba nila buhusan lahat in a day? Or pwede half the area muna then bukas ulit yung other half?

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated..

Kasi ang sabi sakin ng foreman ko ay pwede raw half muna then bukas yung other half, my point here is that pano nila e half yun?

If 4inches lang ang thickness ng floor slab mo sir, kayang kaya yan buhusan ng minsanan coz that is more or less be equal to about 7 cu. m. of concrete plus of course volume of concrete required for the beams and columns. By doing this, you can avoid "cold joints" or "construction joint/s" and have your floor slab "monolithic". Better add some extra manpower and hire a one bagger mixer to do this. hope to help.....

[earthlyken]

Ok na yung poste then their planning to buhos the beam but d sagad para may maisingit ung mga bar para mabuhusan yung flooring ng 2nd floor, kaso ang sabi nila ay to save mga coco lumber raw ay half now and half the nextday ung buhos ng flooring.. ok lang bayun na ganun procedure? Am just curious kung pano nila buhosan half ng biga? Lalagyan ng harang yung other half ng biga?

[yebo]

ano? tipid ng cocolumber? so para tipid e 1/2 lang ang buhusan then ililipat agad sa next 1/2 yung cocolumber? e hindi pa naman pwede alisin agad yung scaffolding sa ilalim nun hindi pa cured yun, mga 1 week pa yun bago fully cured. sigurado ka ba dyan sa contractor/foreman mo?

[chrismarte]

wag ka na muna magpa buhos TS unahin mo palitan yung foreman mo. pag pag one day pa lang nalis na yung mga porma gumuho na!

Agree ako sa iba buhusan at tapusin mo nang isang araw.

[glenn manikis]

O.T. lang sir ano po ba mas cheaper yung slab concrete flooring or kung PRE-FAB nalang ang gagamitin?

[vinj]

O.T. lang sir ano po ba mas cheaper yung slab concrete flooring or kung PRE-FAB nalang ang gagamitin?

Prefab kung sakto yung specs sa house niyo. The shortcoming of prefab (i.e. Vazbilt) is that there's a set size/dimension and construction design to follow since it follows mass production. This limits the freedom of you layout and design. I've seen some prefab houses before and they look okay.

[lowslowbenz]

When I had our house extension built, 2nd floor concrete slab was poured and finished within one day, I rented a 1 bag mixer, and around 10 guys to haul up the concrete. Work started 7 am, up to around 10 pm, nonstop. Same with our third floor, except that I added 2 more guys to man the block and tackle for winching up the concrete buckets.

If you stop halfway, chances of your roof having a water leak is more likely. Cement will crack on the jointed part. I suggest you do it in one pass. Be prepared to feed them, merienda, lunch, dinner, energy drinks, cold water, etc. Well fed, ang mga construction workers hataw lang ng hataw yan. My concrete slabs are now crack free.

My 2 cents.

[CoDer]

Ok na yung poste then their planning to buhos the beam but d sagad para may maisingit ung mga bar para mabuhusan yung flooring ng 2nd floor, kaso ang sabi nila ay to save mga coco lumber raw ay half now and half the nextday ung buhos ng flooring.. ok lang bayun na ganun procedure? Am just curious kung pano nila buhosan half ng biga? Lalagyan ng harang yung other half ng biga?

Hampasin mo sa ulo yang foreman mo, di pa cured yan the next day tapos tangalan nya na ng support.

[lowslowbenz]

Hampasin mo sa ulo yang foreman mo, di pa cured yan the next day tapos tangalan nya na ng support.

^ I think your foreman does not know what he is talking about. Baka nagma-marunong lang yan, mahirap kung gumuho ang slab, back to square one ka nyan. And sayang ang pera on materials.

I left the slabs to cure for 1 week, before we removed the scaffolds. Hindi din namin tinangal lahat, para may support pa rin on the stress and critical areas.

[earthlyken]

Good day,

thank you guys for inputs, sorry mali pala ako pagkaintindi sa foreman ko, yung mga biga pala sinasabi niya na 1 side muna then after 2 days tangal na yung box then lipat sa kabilang side na biga naman, then after 2 days ay mag foform naraw sila para sa floor slab na..

another question po is the stability to prevent cracks and leak, kasi sabi niya 1 side nila bubuhusan yung floor slab hangang sa hati ng biga then next day ulit the other side..

ok lang ba yung ganun procedure? or they really need to finish the buhos the entire day?

regarding sa cement mixer, sabi ng foreman ko wag naraw..para makatipid, kaya naman raw ng manual...

worry kolang kung baka magkaproblema ako sa katagalan kung half half yung buhos nila sa floor slab?

more inputs guys..TIA

[yebo]

Good day,

thank you guys for inputs, sorry mali pala ako pagkaintindi sa foreman ko, yung mga biga pala sinasabi niya na 1 side muna then after 2 days tangal na yung box then lipat sa kabilang side na biga naman, then after 2 days ay mag foform naraw sila para sa floor slab na..

another question po is the stability to prevent cracks and leak, kasi sabi niya 1 side nila bubuhusan yung floor slab hangang sa hati ng biga then next day ulit the other side..

ok lang ba yung ganun procedure? or they really need to finish the buhos the entire day?

regarding sa cement mixer, sabi ng foreman ko wag naraw..para makatipid, kaya naman raw ng manual...

worry kolang kung baka magkaproblema ako sa katagalan kung half half yung buhos nila sa floor slab?

more inputs guys..TIA

mali pa din e. dapat sabay ang buhos ng slab at biga para isang curing time lang. concrete heats up when curing. this heating up causes joints to be at different temperatures, and causes cracks after cooling down. minsanan dapat ang buhos nyan.

[earthlyken]

Thank you guys for all the inputs..do you guys have any idea on the pricing ng tile? Where planning to put 40x40 yung size..magkano kaya po per piece nun?

[yebo]

depende sa tiles, meron mga local (filhispano, etc) mura lang. meron imported na mura at meron din mahal. depende sa design, finish and quality. better pasyal ka na lang sa wilcon or home depot para makita mo kung anong design at yung tugma sa budget mo.

prices for 40x40cm can vary from as low as P30 each to as high as P300 or more.

[Galactus]

Don't fall for the cheap China-made tiles which cost less that Php 25.00 a pop (8X10 yata ang size nun). It may look good at first, but in a span of 1 year, mabilis mag-fade and stain easily. Learned this lesson the hard way.

Go for the branded ones (Mariwasa, Eurotiles, etc.). Also, better to use tile adhesive than plain old cement, although old-fashioned installers may tell you otherwise.