SIM Swap Scam

[JJ All Day]

I have to login to my app before I get to do any transactions. Even without my sim, I can log in to my app. Conversely, even if crooks have my sim, but not my login details, they can't access my account. This is with BPI.

For BDO, aside from needing login details, they will also send you an OTP in order to log in. But if you only have an OTP but no login details, you still cant log in.

For this type of scam, they have both (the internet banking log-on credentials; and, your number). Kaya nga nauso yang scam na yan.. Kasi before wala yung tinatawag na 2-Factor Authentication. They only need the internet banking credentials.

Ginawa ng mga bangko, nagimplement nga ng 2-Factor Authentication (the 2nd factor is yung ngang OTP or one-time password na pinapadala sa mobile number]. Ginawa naman ng mga *******ng yan eh i-hack na din pati sim card mo (after mahack yung logon credentials mo).

[Walter]

Assuming they are able to login to your bank account, what can they do? Transfer to 3rd party is not allowed. If they pay bills using your account, there's a trail to which account you paid it to.

[dartz]

Dati may tawag ng tawag sakin at text ng text. Ang hinahanap niya is babae na anak niya daw. Mga ilang days din yun, then nung nagtry akong tawagan yung sarile kong number nagring at may sumagot nga na babae.

Ang sabi niya Sun post-paid yung sa kanya at mag 1 week palang daw yung akin naman prepaid sun since college ko pa gamit tumawag ako sa Sun at wala naman daw akong ka same na number. Ginawa ko nakipag-coordinate ako doon sa ka-same number ko at sabi ko sa kanya pumunta siya sa Sun Centre at sabihin na may kaparehas siyang number at papalitan niya yung sa kanya. Nung una ayaw nila, sinabi ko nalang na lage libre ako nakakatawag kahit wala akong load baka sa kanya ma-charge. Ayun natakot ata, ngayon wala na kapag nag dial ako ng number ko.

Lahat pa naman ng online banking credentials ko naka link sa number ko ito. Yunh sa BDO may OTP pero sa PSBANK APP wala log in information lang, sa Metrobank may six digit na number ka lang na input log in na, pero may pre set up kanh gagawin.

[JJ All Day]

Assuming they are able to login to your bank account, what can they do? Transfer to 3rd party is not allowed. If they pay bills using your account, there's a trail to which account you paid it to.

Not all banks. There are banks that allow fund transfer to third party account (within the same bank).. and, there are even some that allow bank to bank transfer.

Yung pay bills (e.g., credit card).. then request for cash advance.. ginawa na yan dati, pero di naging effective. Di effective (sa mga loko) dahil bago pa pumasok sa credit card (usually after 3 days pa mapost), na discover na ng victim at, of course, request sya agad ng reversal.

[jut703]

BPI allows fund transfer to anyone with a BPI account. Dangerous, yes, but hella convenient.

I bought my rims and tires on a whim, and wala akong dalang pera that time. Kaysa magwithdraw with different accounts (kasi 20k lang ang daily limit ko per card), nagbank transfer nalang ako sa account nung store.

When I buy stuff online din, bank transfer nalang kaysa magdedeposit pa sa banko.

[_Cathy_]

BPI allows fund transfer to anyone with a BPI account. Dangerous, yes, but hella convenient.

I bought my rims and tires on a whim, and wala akong dalang pera that time. Kaysa magwithdraw with different accounts (kasi 20k lang ang daily limit ko per card), nagbank transfer nalang ako sa account nung store.

When I buy stuff online din, bank transfer nalang kaysa magdedeposit pa sa banko.

I thought you need to enrol an account first to transfer?

[jut703]

I thought you need to enrol an account first to transfer?

Nope. You can opt to enable Transfer to Anyone. only works with BPI, BDO doesn't have that functionality. Dunno with other banks.

[beginnerz]

I thought you need to enrol an account first to transfer?

That is another option. I enrolled accounts of vendors i frequent online. So there is no hassle of typing the wrong account. For transfer yo anyone, its very useful it enables loading of any globe sims( there is also an option to enroll a number) buy in a boutique if you dont have cash for 10k up. There are also establishments that have transactions for cc are down but can accept bank transfers.

[shadow]

I thought you need to enrol an account first to transfer?

That's for 3rd party account. Yun mga regular account na nag online transfer ka. I.e. Parents, siblings, wife, children. Para hinde ka na kailangan mag input ng account number pipiliin mo na lang sa drop down menu

[_Cathy_]

Geez. I never knew you can transfer to anyone with a BPI account. I don't see that function. My friends have BPI accounts too, we'd meet each other or deposit OTC para magbayaran ng utang less than P5k

[StockEngine]

BPI allows fund transfer to anyone with a BPI account. Dangerous, yes, but hella convenient.

I bought my rims and tires on a whim, and wala akong dalang pera that time. Kaysa magwithdraw with different accounts (kasi 20k lang ang daily limit ko per card), nagbank transfer nalang ako sa account nung store.

When I buy stuff online din, bank transfer nalang kaysa magdedeposit pa sa banko.

Sounds like pre-paypal days hehehe. I need to have a new account for small transactions. Hmm

[NightRock]

I thought you need to enrol an account first to transfer?

Yan din ang alam ko sa BPI Im one of their pioneer online user and ang dami naka link sakin na acct ng relatives ko lahat yon i need to enroll online and submit the printed copy to your branch with authenticated signature. Kahit pa BPI to BPI im not aware na nag bago na sila ng rules ang alam ko lang pwede online enrollment merchant payments lang

[jut703]

Since I started using BPI's mobile app, pwede na siya.

[dcph172]

Before you can use the transfer to anyone option in the bpi app, you need to activate it first via the atm or a signed form. Ako i didnt activate it just to be on the safe side.

[12vdc]

^Deactivation is easy, reactivation takes a day.

[shadow]

Yan din ang alam ko sa BPI Im one of their pioneer online user and ang dami naka link sakin na acct ng relatives ko lahat yon i need to enroll online and submit the printed copy to your branch with authenticated signature. Kahit pa BPI to BPI im not aware na nag bago na sila ng rules ang alam ko lang pwede online enrollment merchant payments lang

That's for 3rd party para via drop down menu bar lang hinde na kailangan input account number, Iba pa yun "transfer to anyone" yun can also have that feature activated. But the difference is you need to input the account number.

Hinde na rin kailangan enroll thru online for the 3rd party accounts just go to your branch and tell them well, at least That's what I did, went to the branch manager and she s the one who did everything for me. After one day lang yata ok na.

[JJ All Day]

some banks allow ft to 3rd party kahit di enrolled but up to certain amount only and subject to otp. mas malaki limit ng ft pag enrolled or link sa account mo yung 3rd party or target account


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[_Cathy_]

It looks like I'm the only one still using the webpage I was not even aware they had an app

Yung isang account ko they sent a small device, aside from the password, you also have to input the number generated by that device.

[jut703]

some banks allow ft to 3rd party kahit di enrolled but up to certain amount only and subject to otp. mas malaki limit ng ft pag enrolled or link sa account mo yung 3rd party or target account


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Sa BPI walang limit and walang OTP

[radz15]

Sa BPI walang limit and walang OTP

AFAIK 20k or 50k ang limit sa BPI pag transfer to anyone.