Scandals in the First Family

[Juan Tamad]

I would prefer PING LACSON... GMA is supposed to be an economist.. but for 4 years... what did she do?

Mas madami pa yun scandal at kurakot ng pamilya niya kaysa sa output niya.

[IceColdBeer]

I would prefer PING LACSON... GMA is supposed to be an economist.. but for 4 years... what did she do?

Mas madami pa yun scandal at kurakot ng pamilya niya kaysa sa output niya.

Ping Lacson din ako kaso lang hindi sya bumaba ng VP during last election eh hindi naman talaga sya mananalo, so nahati yung boto ng oposisyon hehe.

Sayang sana Presidente na sya ngaun

[Bogeyman]

pinaalis naman di ba, di naman nila gusto umalis? hehe

and i don't think its an excuse...pag di successful pamamalakad ng gobyerno...ang sisisihin natin ay yung nakaraang administrasyon? unfair naman yun.

The point is that it will take generations upon generations to undo one man's monumental legacy of plunder.

[baiskee]

:offtopic: na yata tayo.

[mazdamazda]

Sa tingin ko oo. Yung total borrowings ni GMA are more than Cory, FVR, and Erap combined.

Another distorted & misleading notion. The Arroyo administration is paying off debts at a staggering rate... consider this:

The Arroyo regime is making the most debt payments in Philippine history – the P470 billion paid in 2003 was equivalent to 75% of NG revenue and 11% of GDP, the P542 billion payments in 2004 is equivalent to 80% of NG revenue, and the P695 billion in 2005 is equivalent to 92% of NG revenue.

The Cory, FVR & Erap administration were only spared since we are under the IMF program then (which started during Marcos' term). This has lead to a FALSE sense that it was just "business as usual" even when all hell broke out. Now that we are out of the said program (and IMF is not anymore pumping borrowed money to us), we are now feeling the effects of those borrowed money.

i think... the president must do a project that is a result oriented one...hindi yung long term muna or less priority... focus muna sya in our present scenario, nawawala yung "strong republic", kaya ramdam na ramdam ng tao yung hirap kesa sa ginhawa...

That is the problem!!! Concentrating on the present scenario rather than the long term solution.

Our country's problem is rooted also in the implemented EOI (export oriented industry) practice by Marcos during the 1970s and is still being continued to be implemented today. In fact, we are putting ourselves at the mercy of foreign markets (which is slowly shifting to China and other countries) with this neoliberal approach.

We are just using the Arroyo issues as a scapegoat to the bigger problem which is an overhaul of our economy as outlined in her Strong Republic vision. The Strong Republic vision will not anymore rely on the EOI which has been in practice since the 70s and has failed. Instead, it is aimed at self-sufficiency, agriculture & small enterprise growth. We are all dreaming of being an EOI like Japan, Korea, Singapore but our conditions do not permit that.

As the saying goes... the Filipino doesn't want to take the bitter pill.

[docpete]

Now somebody is talking sense ,for the first time!! Nakakasawa na rin yong tsiwsmis.

[IceColdBeer]

Kaya nga ba mahirap na magbasa ng dyaryo minsan eh.

[baiskee]

That is the problem!!! Concentrating on the present scenario rather than the long term solution.

Our country's problem is rooted also in the implemented EOI (export oriented industry) practice by Marcos during the 1970s and is still being continued to be implemented today. In fact, we are putting ourselves at the mercy of foreign markets (which is slowly shifting to China and other countries) with this neoliberal approach.

We are just using the Arroyo issues as a scapegoat to the bigger problem which is an overhaul of our economy as outlined in her Strong Republic vision. The Strong Republic vision will not anymore rely on the EOI which has been in practice since the 70s and has failed. Instead, it is aimed at self-sufficiency, agriculture & small enterprise growth. We are all dreaming of being an EOI like Japan, Korea, Singapore but our conditions do not permit that.

As the saying goes... the Filipino doesn't want to take the bitter pill.

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

yang mga buildings na pinatayo ni imelda....nasan na? di ba napabayaan na lang. buti nga at napapakinabangan na ng mba bading ngayon ang film center (medyo bad feng shui lang nga. hehe )

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

di kaya kinakarma lang ang pilipino? nyehehehe

[mazdamazda]

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

yang mga buildings na pinatayo ni imelda....nasan na? di ba napabayaan na lang. buti nga at napapakinabangan na ng mba bading ngayon ang film center (medyo bad feng shui lang nga. hehe )

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

di kaya kinakarma lang ang pilipino? nyehehehe

granted that it was Macoy's blueprint... but was those necessary in the first place? was the borrowing of BILLIONS OF DOLLARS worth it?

as you said it... gutom na ang Pilipino. those billions of dollars should have been spent FIRST on making our country self-sufficient in terms of agriculture & basic goods. the other conveniences can follow later.

look at other developed countries... almost all of them is self-sufficient in terms of their staple food. what we export to them are just the "extras" like fruits. if you also look at the development of their countries... it took them hundreds of years to be industrialized!

if you haven't noticed... the BOT scheme is now being heavily favored to bankroll new infra projects (like the NLEX rehab, LRT 2 & 3, North Rail, NLEE, SLEX rehab). this is to minimize the borrowings of the nat'l gov't and to instead rely on the private sector's discipline & business-savvy to pull it all off.

btw... what kind of "instant result" are you talking about? AFAIK, there is no shortcut to economic prosperity. it took the members of the G7 (USA, UK, France, etc) a few century or so to get to their status right now.

[chua_riwap]

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

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[FrankDrebin]

Kaya nga ba mahirap na magbasa ng dyaryo minsan eh.

Ako rin bro kaya diretso sa Entertainment na lang pagbasa ko. Maiinis ka lang sa front page.

[Bogeyman]

nope! all of these LRT/ MRT and others were a blueprint of marcos' projects...

yang mga buildings na pinatayo ni imelda....nasan na? di ba napabayaan na lang. buti nga at napapakinabangan na ng mba bading ngayon ang film center (medyo bad feng shui lang nga. hehe )

filipinos need some RESULT from our government NOW!

gutom na ang pilipino... kawawa na ang pilipino... aksiyon ang hinahanap ng pilipino, hindi pangako na hindi nila alam kung kelan mangyayari.

pero wag natin kalimutan...disiplinahin din ang pilipino...tigas kasi ng ulo eh, ang yayabang pa. hehe

di kaya kinakarma lang ang pilipino? nyehehehe

No, Filipinos should know by now that they cannot rely their entire future on the government. Kahit sinong presidente ang iupo mo sa palasyo, solutions will not come overnight. Layers upon layers of poor governance will have to be undone before the desired results are achieved. And then sustaining those results for the long term is also another story. So what will the Filipino people do with their lives in the interim? Demand more from the government while refusing to determine their future for themselves? Nakakatawa, kasi habang maraming Pilipino ang nagrereklamo na nagugutom sila, mas maraming Pilipino ang nakakayanan pang mamasyal sa mall tuwing Sabado, Linggo at holidays. Bukod pa yan sa sandamakmak na mga tao tuwing may sale. If things were indeed so bad, these businesses would have folded years ago.

Kailangang baguhin ang Pilipino more than the government, in the sense na hindi na dapat magpabola ang mga mamamayan sa mga pulitiko. We have such a short memory after 1986, kaya hindi tayo tinatantanan ng mga problema. If we were to use People Power against the Arroyo administration today, that would be the second time (after Erap) that we have proven to ourselves and the world that we never learned from our mistakes.

[falken]

No, Filipinos should know by now that they cannot rely their entire future on the government. Kahit sinong presidente ang iupo mo sa palasyo, solutions will not come overnight. Layers upon layers of poor governance will have to be undone before the desired results are achieved. And then sustaining those results for the long term is also another story. So what will the Filipino people do with their lives in the interim? Demand more from the government while refusing determining their future for themselves?

Kailangang baguhin ang Pilipino more than the government, in the sense na hindi na dapat magpabola ang mga mamamayan sa mga pulitiko. We have such a short memory after 1986, kaya hindi tayo tinatantanan ng mga problema. If we were to use People Power against the Arroyo administration today, that would be the second time (after Erap) that we have proven to ourselves and the world that we never learned from our mistakes.

If we want change, we should start with ourselves.

[baiskee]

ayoko na rin humaba pa to kasi wala naman tayong maitutulong sa pag angat ng bansa kung laging ang nakaraan ang iisipin...wala na tayong magagawa. past is past.

all we need to do is face the future...wala ng sisihan. the problems are there...tayo na lang hinihintay kung pano natin maaayos.

i don't really understand that people keep on blaming the past leaders... think our future... our childrens' future. kung di ko man maramdaman yung pag angat ng pilipinas kahit papano ayaw ko rin problemahin ng mga anak ko kung ano pa ang pinoproblema ko.

i think you guys will agree. :D

kaya kung may kalokohan nangyayari sa gobyerno...dapat putulin agad.

parang sakit sa ating katawan... pag meron tayong nararamdaman kakaiba... pa check kaagad tayo sa clinic...pag may nakitang sakit...iinom agad ng gamot para hindi na lumala.

ganun din naman sa oto natin... inaalagaan natin yan, halos araw-araw natin ginagamit...kung pwede lang araw-araw din ang carwash..di po ba? pag may konting marinig lang na kakaiba...papa check din agad natin sa suking talyer o mekaniko...para maagapan at di na tuluyang masira.

eto lang naman ang gusto nating mangyaring lahat eh...ang malayo sa kapahamakan.

sana nabigyan ko ng linaw ang aking damdamin. naks! :D

[baiskee]

If we want change, we should start with ourselves.

kaso lang, ang problema nga hindi lahat ng pilipino ay tsikoteers. buti tayo naiintindihan natin ang lahat...

kidding aside, di kasi ganyan ang pag iisip ng karamihan.

[Bogeyman]

ayoko na rin humaba pa to kasi wala naman tayong maitutulong sa pag angat ng bansa kung laging ang nakaraan ang iisipin...wala na tayong magagawa. past is past.

Pardon me for saying so, but I count this as one of the worst attitudes that we as a people have. You might as well tell the Jews that 'past is past', where the Nazis are concerned. You might as well tell the comfort women that 'past is past', where the Japanese soldiers are concerned. The past may be gone, but it should by no means be forgotten. History exists not so we can merely look at it behind a glass case, but so we can continually learn from its mistakes when we have to. Yung ganyang ugali ang dahilan kung bakit nakabalik sa Pilipinas at sa gobyerno ang mga Marcos; lagi na lang idinadahilan ng mga Pilipino na nakalipas na ang lahat. Ako, I will never tire of telling my children, my grandchildren and great-grandchildren about the darkness that Marcos brought to this country, and that they should always be vigilant so that such a period never occurs again.

Naaunawaan ko naman ang iyong mga sentimiyento. Kanya nga lang, hindi sing-simple ng pagpapagamot ng katawan o pag-aayos ng oto ang pagpapatakbo sa isang bansa, na kung may diperensiya sa kalagitnaan ay gustong baguhin agad. Hindi kailangan indahin ang sakit kung inaalagaang mabuti ang katawan. At hindi kailangang indahin ang maling gobyerno kung sa halalan pa lang, nakabantay na tayong mga mamamayan. Hindi yung kung kailan nakaka-isang taon pa lang, konting kibot lang eh, gusto na natin ng iba.

Kung hindi rin lang tayo makapaghintay bilang isang bansa sa susunod na halalan, aba'y tigilan na natin ang pagdaraos nito kada anim na taon. Idaan na lang natin sa sigaw kung sino ang pipiliing pangulo ng bansa. Gaya ng minsan ko nang nabanggit, kung hindi natin mababantayan bilang sambayanan ang ating mga demokratikong proseso, karapat-dapat lang sa atin ang sinumang pangulo na uupo bilang resulta ng isang huwad na halalan.

[BoyFerrari]

Para sakin lahat ng mga allegations dito sa thread na ito tungkol kay Arroyo are PURE HOGWASH.

Sa dami ba naman ng lawyer sa Kongreso, bakit wala pang kaso na nafa-file laban kay GMA? Impeachable offenses lahat ng ito eh.

[Bogeyman]

Exactly. The opposition will never win by legal means. Remember when Sammy Ong first surfaced, who was there during the press conference? Rez Cortez, a known supporter of the opposition! Doon pa lang, kitang-kita na ang motibo. And Ong himself has an ax to grind because his personal interests were not accomodated by the administration.

Kaya I'm not expecting another popular revolt anytime soon, considering the kind of people who stand to replace the current government. And quite frankly, they shouldn't even be considered as a viable alternative.

[Belisarius]

The present palace occupant have learned her lesson of not to let any people power succeed again, like sharing the loot, so any one can't point the finger because it will some way point back to them. What we have is a smart political animal trained by her father and made a monster by the arrogant elite minority who were shocked by having someone as president who is not their own kind. Its not a question of who to blame, but a look at the present reality, that crook in the palace is even bigger than erap, trying to beat FVR's record, and someone who can lie with a straight face, greed is the essence of her being. As Mr. Boo Chanco of the Star says, we are succeeding inspite of her, so she is the rock that pulls us down, the economist politician who puts her own interest first and is good at covering up her dirt. She has to go soon or we will remove her even if it means her demise. The political pot is boiling, to be cooked soon are the people in power if they don't put out the fire.

[BoyFerrari]

The present palace occupant have learned her lesson of not to let any people power succeed again, like sharing the loot, so any one can't point the finger because it will some way point back to them. What we have is a smart political animal trained by her father and made a monster by the arrogant elite minority who were shocked by having someone as president who is not their own kind. Its not a question of who to blame, but a look at the present reality, that crook in the palace is even bigger than erap, trying to beat FVR's record, and someone who can lie with a straight face, greed is the essence of her being. As Mr. Boo Chanco of the Star says, we are succeeding inspite of her, so she is the rock that pulls us down, the economist politician who puts her own interest first and is good at covering up her dirt. She has to go soon or we will remove her even if it means her demise. The political pot is boiling, to be cooked soon are the people in power if they don't put out the fire.

Before you start your mob rule, kindly wait till i get my Fortuner.