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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by cardict View Post
    Will the Russian macho step back?
    That we will know in the 'near' future

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    Smells like Georgia 2.0. Though I wouldn't be as quick to judge what's going on.

    http://rt.com/news/ukrainians-leave-russia-border-452/

    Just like what happened in Georgia on 2008, their "nationalist" leader attacked the Russians within Georgia so Medvedev intervened. Then it was later portrayed as an Invasion...

    Comparatively, the current "nationalist-socialist" a.k.a. nazi leadership in Ukraine are anti-Russian and Pro-western so naturally, the Russians residing in Ukraine are prime targets of the coup instigators.
    Last edited by safeorigin; March 3rd, 2014 at 05:12 PM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardict View Post
    Will the Russian macho step back?
    G-8 Summit in Sochi at stake and of course Russia's affairs with its members.

    Sent from my GT-N5100 using Tapatalk 2

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    picture paints a thousand words...



    ethnic_composition_ukraine_southern_russia_1897.jpg
    Last edited by safeorigin; March 4th, 2014 at 02:09 PM.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    When Western Goverment play morally righteous...

    Kerry to Russia: You Can’t Just Invade a Country on False Pretext
    Daniel McAdams
    11:31 pm on March 2, 2014

    Poor John Kerry. He is prone to foot-in-mouth syndrome, but clearly the stress is getting to him. It’s understandable. The Secretary of State and his minions went and provoked a regime change in Ukraine to which they sang the chorus “democracy” and “people power” only to discover that: 1) the new leadership has a bad case of Basil Fawlty syndrome, stiff-arming at every opportunity; and 2) a good chunk of the country (as the rest of us could tell looking at voting maps) had no intention of going along with the US-engineered regime change in Kiev.

    First Crimea, with a majority Russian and Russian-speaking population, rejected the self-proclaimed government in Kiev, then one by one eastern Ukrainians began mass demonstrations where the Russian flag was hoisted on public buildings.

    In Kiev, the demonstrations are “people power.” In Donetsk and Sebastopol it is “armed gunmen.” That is the view of western governments and their media class. But the authorities in the autonomous province of Crimea — backed by tens of thousands in the streets — did the unthinkable: they asked the Russians to protect them against the new Kiev regime which was en route to crush dissent.

    Interventionism is a dirty game and there is considerable danger in believing too closely in one’s own self-deceptions and on closed-loop analysis.

    But what Kerry and his boss called a “invasion” looked a lot more like the neocon fantasy of how US troops would be greeted in Baghdad. In other words, for an invading force, the Russians seemed to be welcomed by the local population.

    The stress was clearly too much. Today on Face the Nation Kerry delivered the kind of hilarious groaner that undermines the entire US manufactured outrage at Russia’s action next door in Ukraine. Said Kerry on camera:

    It is really a stunning, willful choice by President Putin to invade another country…You just don’t in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pretext.

    One risks ruining the punchline by mentioning such words as Iraq, Libya, Mali, Somalia, Yugoslavia, and so on…
    Kerry to Russia: You Can?t Just Invade a Country on False Pretext ? LewRockwell.com

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    #26
    Doesn't look like the locals are cowering in fear...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Doesn't look like the locals are cowering in fear...



    Those two ladies might be part of the large Russian-speaking(and quite possibly pro-Russian) population in Ukraine. Perhaps they think they'll be safe whichever way this goes down.


    Here's a thought: how can they(Russian military) tell who's pro-Ukrainian and who's pro-Russian? Or will the pro-Russian rat out their fellow Ukrainians? They can't adopt scorched earth tactics then, right?

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    ^Well to be honest, Crimea is very accessible to Russians since they have a major naval base there to begin with.

    I think Crimea will go on the same page as South Ossetia.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    ^Well to be honest, Crimea is very accessible to Russians since they have a major naval base there to begin with.

    I think Crimea will go on the same page as South Ossetia.


    crap. Kaya pala ganun na lang reaction ni Putin. Baka me nuclear sub pa dun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    crap. Kaya pala ganun na lang reaction ni Putin. Baka me nuclear sub pa dun.
    Yup, pretense na lang talaga yung threat to russian speaking people. The naval base is what's important to him.

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