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    #241
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    *uls seriously, I'm worried about you. Masyado ka invested sa galit mo sa US. Wala naman tayo magagawa lahat if they want to start a war.


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    Lets just feed their paranoia and anger then. Go NATO! Go Ukraine!

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    #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Lets just feed their paranoia and anger then. Go NATO! Go Ukraine!
    why you angry?

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    #243
    looking forward to 1 yr anniv

    US president will make a speech in poland with military equipment for ukraine in the background

    #optics

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    #244
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Basta tuloy lang gyera ng gyera!
    Actually, that was a sarcastic post bro in response to exag posts here.

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    #245
    General Milley: Russia-Ukraine war will end with negotiations

    Despite neither Ukraine nor Russia showing signs of wanting to negotiage, US General Mark Milley told the Financial Times on Feb. 16. that it is likely the war will end at the negotiating table.

    "It will be almost impossible for the Russians to achieve their political objectives by military means. It is unlikely that Russia is going to overrun Ukraine. It's just not going to happen," said Milley, adding that it will be "very, very difficult" for Ukraine to expel all Russian forces from occupied territory.

    "It's not to say that it can't happen…" he said. "But it's extraordinarily difficult. And it would require essentially the collapse of the Russian military,"

    This is not the first time that Milley has said the war will end with negotiations. In November 2022, he raised the ire of Ukrainian officials when he said that the Ukrainians should use Russian losses to their advantage to negotiate a peace settlement.

    He later clarified his statements, adding that it was “up to Ukraine to decide how or when or if they will negotiate with the Russians."
    https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...h-negotiations

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    #246
    sa ngayon neither side wants nego

    for ukraine, nego means giving up some territory but that's unacceptable for them

    for russia there's no point in nego they can't trust the west

    turned out the 2014 minsk agreement was a ruse

    the west never intended to abide by it

    it was only to buy time for ukraine to prepare for war

    from now on russia cannot sign agreements with the west
    Last edited by uls; February 18th, 2023 at 06:06 PM.

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    #247
    1. There are two Minsk Agreements, not just one. The first “Minsk Protocol” was signed on September 5, 2014. It mainly consists of a commitment to a ceasefire along the existing line of contact, which Russia never respected. By February 2015, fighting had intensified to a level that led to renewed calls for a ceasefire, and ultimately led to the second Minsk Agreement, signed on February 12, 2015. Even after this agreement, Russian-led forces kept fighting and took the town of Debaltseve six days later. The two agreements are cumulative, building on each other, rather than the second replacing the first. This is important in understanding the importance, reflected in the first agreement, of an immediate ceasefire and full monitoring by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), including on the Ukraine-Russia border, as fundamental to the subsequent package of agreements.

    2. Russia is a Party to the Minsk Agreements. The original Minsk signatories are Russia, Ukraine, and the OSCE. Russia is a protagonist in the war in Ukraine and is fully obliged to follow the deal’s terms. Despite that, however, Russia untruthfully claims not to be a party and only a facilitator — and that the real agreements are between Ukraine and the so-called “separatists,” who call themselves the Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics (LPR and DPR), but are in fact Russian supplied and directed.

    3. The LPR and DPR are not recognized as legitimate entities under the Minsk Agreements. The signatures of the leaders of the so-called Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics were added after they had already been signed by Ukraine, Russia, and the OSCE. They were not among the original signatories, and indeed Ukraine would not have signed had their signatures been part of the deal. There is nothing in the content or format of the Agreement that legitimizes these entities and they should not be treated as negotiating partners in any sense. Russia alone controls the forces occupying parts of eastern Ukraine.

    4. Russia is in violation of the Minsk Agreements. The deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this. It has regular military officers as well as intelligence operatives and unmarked “little green men” woven into the military forces in Eastern Ukraine. The LPR and DPR forces are by any definition “illegal armed groups,” that have not been disbanded. The ceasefire has barely been respected by the Russian side for more than a few days at a time.

    5. Russian-led forces prevent the OSCE from accomplishing its mission in Donbas as spelled out in the Minsk Agreements. It is an unstated irony in Vienna — understood by every single diplomatic mission and member of the international staff — that Russia approves the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) in Ukraine when it votes in Vienna, but then blocks implementation of that same mission on the ground in Ukraine. Because Russia is a member of the OSCE, and the SMM wants to preserve what little access it has to the occupied territories, the mission is guarded in what it says about ceasefire violations and restrictions on its freedom of movement. Privately, however, they acknowledge that some 80% of such violations and restrictions come from the Russian-controlled side of the border, and those that occur on the Ukrainian side are largely for safety reasons (e.g., avoiding mined approaches to bridges.)
    Don’t Let Russia Fool You About the Minsk Agreements - CEPA

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    #248
    Hintayin mo at titirahin yang CEPA kasi Washinton, D.C., U.S.A. based ito

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Russia's 'invasion and occupation' of Ukrainian territory.