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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    how long will it take for ukraine to take back all its territory?

    will it happen this year?
    maybe when russia can no longer manufacture their own weapons that could burn leopard, leclerc, challenger, abrams tanks, tornado, rafale, f16, f15, f18, f35, and f22 jets

    its NATO expansion being pushed back by russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    because iran is helping russia

    Hitting 2 birds w/ 1 stone.

    Preemptive strike na din Kasi Iran can use those drones anytime against them.

    In the same vein, I'm sure Saudi Arabia, uae, Pakistan, Egypt, etc are breathing a bit easier w/ those drone strikes.

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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Hitting 2 birds w/ 1 stone.

    Preemptive strike na din Kasi Iran can use those drones anytime against them.

    In the same vein, I'm sure Saudi Arabia, uae, Pakistan, Egypt, etc are breathing a bit easier w/ those drone strikes.

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    Russia attacked Ukraine — Let’s condemn and sanction Russia until theyre broke

    Israel attacks Iran — this is a preemptive move.

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    #114
    russia attacked ukraine -> pre-emptive move vs EU + NATO

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Russia attacked Ukraine — Let’s condemn and sanction Russia until theyre broke

    Israel attacks Iran — this is a preemptive move.

    Hehe
    So we will not sanction Israel for the pre-emptive strike? Hehehe

    Friends namin yan kasi and they are punishing a terrorist country. Hahaha


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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    So we will not sanction Israel for the pre-emptive strike? Hehehe

    Friends namin yan kasi and they are punishing a terrorist country. Hahaha


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    israel launched a pre-emptive strike to avoid being invaded? just like their previous wars.

    si russia are the invaders. did i make sense?

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    Ukraine, which Russia has repeatedly attacked using hundreds of Shahed-136 loitering munitions (self-detonating drones) supplied by Iran since August, welcomed Saturday night's attack. Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, tweeted: "Explosive night in Iran. Did warn you."

    On Dec. 24, Podolyak called for the "liquidation of plants" Iran uses for producing drones and missiles.

    Saturday's strike came shortly after the Israeli Ambassador to Germany, Ron Prosor, mentioned Iranian drones and missiles when he said Israel does more to help Ukraine than is publicly known.

    "We help – albeit behind the scenes – and much more than is known," he told German media on Friday.


    Asked why Israel has so staunchly refused to supply Ukraine military hardware, Prosor pointed to the Russian military presence in Syria. "As you know, the Israeli army regularly blocks arms shipments from Iran to Syria and Lebanon," he said. "These include Iranian drones and missiles that Russia is using in Ukraine."

    Russia currently relies on shipments of hundreds of cheap Shahed loitering munitions to sustain the campaign against Ukraine's cities and electricity infrastructure it launched in September. It may also receive short-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs) by the end of the year, which would be far more difficult for Ukraine to defend itself against.

    Destruction or sabotage of Iranian factories could hinder this ongoing campaign and successive ones, something Kyiv would doubtlessly welcome.
    Covert Israeli Operations Against Iranian Missiles And Drone Plants Might Help Ukraine

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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    israel launched a pre-emptive strike to avoid being invaded? just like their previous wars.

    si russia are the invaders. did i make sense?
    israel conducts preemptive strikes on iran to stop it's nuclear weapons program

    but in this particular case it wasn't preemptive strikes

    it's to destroy iran's drone production coz iran is supplying drones to russia

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    #119
    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    israel launched a pre-emptive strike to avoid being invaded? just like their previous wars.

    si russia are the invaders. did i make sense?

    How will Iran invade Israel when it does not share a border with Israel? Unless parang USA yan which can airlift hundreds of thousands of troops to invade a country halfway around the world.

    Israel invaded then occupied the Golan Heights (Syria) and the Sinai peninsula (Egypt) during the Six Day War (1967). The Sinai became a demilitarized zone afterwards but captured again during the Yom Kippur War (1973). The Golan Heights was never relinquished by Israel ever since. The Israeli army heavily guards the Golan Heights due to its strategic importance and no one can persuade them to leave, even the UN.


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    US Navy probe: Iranian drone struck Israeli-linked tanker
    November 22, 2022


    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Investigators have concluded that an Iranian drone was used to bomb an oil tanker linked to an Israeli billionaire last week, the U.S. Navy said on Tuesday.

    The drone attack on the Liberian-flagged oil tanker Pacific Zircon last Tuesday off the coast of Oman appears to be part of the long-running shadow war between Israel and its archenemy Iran that has included the targeting of Israeli-linked ships in strategic Mideast waterways.

    The Navy said explosives experts boarded the ship to assess the damage, including a 30-inch-wide (76-centimeter) hole punched in its side, and to collect debris and bomb residue. The evidence was taken to a lab at the headquarters of the U.S. Fifth Fleet in the Gulf Arab nation of Bahrain.

    Navy investigators concluded that the drone used was an Iranian Shahed-136, the same kind of bomb-carrying drone Iran has supplied to Russia in its war on Ukraine. Iranian drones were used by Yemeni rebels to attack Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates earlier this year, the Navy said.

Russia's 'invasion and occupation' of Ukrainian territory.