RP 5 of chot reyes

[Macky]

IMO, you have to play all your players when you're just preparing for other tournaments, or else, how would you know which player to choose for the national team, the objective for this tournament is to get to know your players, not to win. We are preparing for the bigger tournament which will land us a spot in the Olympics, not this damn tournament. You learn more from losses, not wins.

Makikisabat na lang mga bossing.... kelan po ba yung malalaking tournament? 2 years pa po ba? Kasi kung ngayon pa lang tayo mangangapa ng players at this year na yung pinaghahandaang tournament, di po ba masyadong behind na ang preparation natin? Sa aking opinyon, mukhang inaalagaan masyado ang mga ego nung players dahil siguro pulos superstar nga. Pero kung para sa bayan, dapat wala munang pa super-superstar. Sana since mga bata nga yung players natin, tagalan naman nila ang preparasyon. Minsan tuloy naiisip kong masama para sa Philippine basketball ang PBA. Simula ng itayo ang PBA, nag-decline ang abilidad ng Pilipinas sa basketball..... Papaano mo ibibigay yung 100% mo e kung ma-injured ka wala kang kikitain? Mga bagong Jawo, Fernandez, Samboy, Paras, Caidic, Atoy Co, Adornado, at Florencio (basta wag lang ibebenta, hehehe) ang kailangan natin ngayon.... isama mo na si Dalupan as coach (remember the Lastimosa issue???!!! umaangal sa playing time si Jolas pero mas maganda ang laro ni Capacio kaya si Capacio ang pinalalaro). Sabi nga nila, hindi tayo pedeng mabuhay sa nakaraan pero madami tayong matututunan sa nakaraan. Businessman na kasi ang tingin ko sa mga bagong players instead na basketbolista. Pulos pera....... just look why the Fil-Ams are lining out to play - dahil mas maganda ang kita nila sa basketball sa Pinas kesa sa bansa na kinalakihan nila. Haaaay, sana naman may magandang napulot ang Pinas sa tournament na yan. Masyado kasing mala-NBA ang laro natin. Pede naman ang constant ball movement, screen/picks, at shooting tulad ng sa China at Korea.... pero mas gusto natin yung one on one, dunks at block shots.... mga bagay na importante sa matatangkad na at mabibilis pa.

Enough mumbling..... not pretending to be an expert pero I miss the days of the players I mentioned na talagang patayan lumaro basta sa bayan.

[KCboy]

sheer talent will not win u any tournaments.just look at the nba allstars that participated in the 04 olympics. basketball is a team game and that's what we need now, teamwork to get to the next level.

[NdoymaN]

sinong nanalo kagabi? di ako nakapanood.. waaaahhhhhh..

[ILuvDetailing]

IMO, you have to play all your players when you're just preparing for other tournaments, or else, how would you know which player to choose for the national team, the objective for this tournament is to get to know your players, not to win. We are preparing for the bigger tournament which will land us a spot in the Olympics, not this damn tournament. You learn more from losses, not wins.

You have a point there but... its bad for the moral of players pag palagi kayong talo. Take for example our National Team goin on a US tour to face division one schools, what happened? we only won one game and our players lost confidence.

With our current lineup I don't see any chance of cracking the top two or three in Asia kahit na isama mo lahat ng Fil-Ams diyan we still would have a hard time playing against teams used to the international style of play. Instead of emulating the NBA style of play, we should emulate the Euro style which focuses on ball movement and shooting.

[RedHorse]

hirap tayo sa mga arabo na matatangkad, mabagal tumakbo pero may shooting...

ano pa kaya sa mga chinese, taiwanese, korean at japanese, na mabibilis/maliliksi at matatangkad na may shooting at superb ball movement...

baka tambakan na tayo ng mga 20++ per game.

[ILuvDetailing]

sa Japan mahihirapan na tayo. Against the Chinese well... maybe in 10 years. Against Korea? mmm... malabo din.

[ownertype]

For me, Chot's playing his cards right. Winning the Champions Cup is not the RP Team's primary goal. It was a good learning experience for the team. This shows they need to practice more as a team. I heard they only practiced like 3 - 4 times because the players were also practicing with their mother ball clubs. The team needs to be exposed to International brand of play. They need to unlearn their NBA type one-one plays. The problem with cohesiveness and familiarity will be addressed by joining these international tournaments, exhibition matches, etc. Let's be realistic, we can't have a 12 man dedicated team to represent the country in international competition. The pool of players we have is like having an armory filled with weapons. Chot has the luxury of choosing who and what type of players to field to suit certain tournament.

The team that participated in the recent Champions cup, doesn't have Eric Menk, Danny Seigle, & Jay Jay Helterbrand. There's also Anthony Washington (6'7) and Kelly Williams (6'5) who are showing their wares in the PBL semis right now.

Thoss (6'8) and De Ocampo (6'9) are young project players. Since this a 5+ years Basketball program, imagine what these players will become 2 - 3 years from now. Also they have amateur standouts Espinas, Canaleta, Quinahan, Salvador, JR Reyes, Arwind Santos in the pool. These are 6'5 above players.

Also in the ABC qualifying tournament, the teams that played in Champions cup will be playing sans their 2 imports.

[kimpOy]

as we've seen the RP team must have shootersnot only 3 pt specialist but players who deadly 15-18 ft away from the basket.

[RedHorse]

RP 5 tournament sked/ team composition:

July 16-21 Global Hoops Summer League, Las Vegas Nevada
will face China, Korea, Qatar, Nigeria, 2 National Basketball Devt Leage, 2 NBA squad with rookies and free agents

Team composition: PBA players whose teams will not reach the finals of the 2005 Gran Matador PBA Fiesta Conference

July 23-30 William Jones Cup, Taiwan
Team composition: addition of pba players who played in the finals


Aug 2-8 SEABA, SouthEast Asian Basketball Association * (qualifying tournament for FIBA-ASIA tournament)

Team composition: Enrico Villanueva of Red Bull Barako, Yancy de Ocampo of Talk n Text, Sonny Thoss and Mike Cortez of Alaska, and Kerby Raymundo and James Yap of Purefoods. + Arwind Santos of Far Eastern University, Gabriel Espinas of Philippine Christian University and LA Tenorio of Ateneo, + Fil-Ams Anthony Washington and Kelly Williams, PBL MVP Jondan Salvador, JR Quinahan, Mark Cardona, Cesar Catli, Dennis Miranda, Froilan Baguion and Al Vergara.


Aug 15-20 PBA goodwill games


Sep FIBA Asia Championship, Qatar

[ILuvDetailing]

Proper training and coaching is the key. Problem is the PBA season runs all year round, there's not enough time to develop these young players, when I say train -> post up, shooting, passing, etc. drills.

[RedHorse]

after the present conference, oct pa ang susunod na laro uli ng pba, kaya seguro eala, selected chot reyes, kasi nag-jibe ang plans nila to free-up august-september kasi dito ang bulk ng mga international basketball events...

may time na talaga, at sana palarin after qatar, sa 2007 world championship at saitama, japan, then 2008 at beijing olympics...

[euromeister]

kuha nang rp 5th place are we supposed to be excited?

[zanch]

Nasaan na sina Menk, Seigle, Washington and Williams? Those guys could have help us out a lot! Alisin na yung di gumagawa! De Ocampo is too soft for this kind of competitions.

[ownertype]

kuha nang rp 5th place are we supposed to be excited?

the 5th place finish by the RP team is actually a feat for the nationals. They could have bagged the championship if they inlcuded current PBA imports Simpkins, Barron, or Honeycutt. However that would defeat the purpose since we will just rely on their rebounding and scoring. Usually the imports tend to overshadow the locals. The teams we fought in the champions cup are not good benchmark to measure how our team stand against the national teams of other countries. Remember the top four teams that entered the semis were carried entirely by their imports who are mostly former NBA veterans (e.g. Todd Day). We just have to be patient and supportive with Reyes' program.

[ownertype]

also Reyes is giving equal opportunities to all players in the pool to participate in various tournaments. Iba yung feeling and fulfillment when you're representing your country in International competition. The RP pool we have will address the long term program that has been missing in Philippine Basketball. This will ensure that we will send the best team in all international basketball tournaments. Not a rag tag and ill prepared team.

[RedHorse]

Nasaan na sina Menk, Seigle, Washington and Williams? Those guys could have help us out a lot! Alisin na yung di gumagawa! De Ocampo is too soft for this kind of competitions.

nagtatago ng baraha si chot reyes! keep the enemy guessing, yan ang ploy, hope it would work...

[CLAVEL3699]

adducul, pwede sya dito

[ownertype]

adducul, pwede sya dito

Rommel "the General" Adducul is a sure shoo-in for the RP Team. His performance in the Champions cup showed how much experienced he is in international competitions. He already played in the ABC, SEA and SEABA games before jumping to the PBA. In short sanay na siya sa amoy ng mga asian and arab players

[RedHorse]

RP-San Miguel joins Las Vegas tourney


Thursday, 07 14, 2005

The RP-San Miguel Beer squad takes on Aoshen-China on Sunday at the start of the Global Hoops Summit of the NBA-Las Vegas Summer League at Cox Pavilion inside the University of Nevada in Las Vegas campus.

Other matches on tap are those between SFX vs BDA Sports, ESM Sports vs Passing Lane Sports, Long Beach Jam (Japan) vs. Nigerian national team and BCI Edge vs. BTG Express.

The Nationals will take on Passing Lane and its 7'8” Chinese center next on Monday, BDA Sports on Tuesday, Long Beach on Wednesday and the Nigerian national team on Thursday.

South Korea and Qatar begged off at the last minute.

Handled by national coach Chot Reyes, the RP squad is comprised of Mike Cortez, Jayjay Helterbrand, James Yap, Renren Ritualo, Tony dela Cruz, Kerby Raymundo, Rich Alvarez, Kelly Williams, Romel Adducul, Don Allado, Billy Mamaril and Sonny Thoss, with amateur Dennis Miranda as reserve.

They will leave today at 5 p.m. on Flight PR 106 for the 14-hour trip to Las Vegas with a stopover in Vancouver.

The Las Vegas tourney, Reyes said, is an evaluation opportunity apart from the Jones Cup preparation.

“This is part of the RP team program towards building a national pool from which future national teams will be formed,” said Reyes.

“The Jones Cup is part of that program. Now, the Las Vegas summer league was never meant to be a preparation for the Jones Cup. Its purpose really is to evaluate some of the players in the pool which, in turn, serves the objective of the long-term program. That's the mindset behind this trip.”

[ssaloon]

whoops, wrong thread, sorry