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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Ewan ko lang ha... pero para sa akin mas maganda kung optional lang ito. Di ba mas maganda kung kusang loob ito?

    Sa tingin ko dito maganda gamitin yung ilang libong tambay sa tabi tabi di ba? Tutal wala naman silang ginagawa e. Tapos yung mga taong nagsisikap mag aral lalo na yung mga working students e di meron na silang free time or pwede ring additional day para kumita sila.

    Kaso ang problema lang e kung rotc, yung estudyante ang magbabayad para sila makapag rotc, syempre ang magiging dahilan nyan e walang pondo kung mga tambay ang tuturuan, baka singilin pa sila hehehe.

    What do you think?

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    buti nalang nung 2002 hindi na naging requirement yung rotc. kasi kung required pa rin siya hindi ako makakagraduate ng college dahil hindi ko siya kinuha.

    for me ayoko ibalik yan. sunday is a family day. mon-sat na nag aaral mga estudyante tapos mag rotc pa ng sunday..

    wag na irequire.. kusang loob nalang

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    another source of corruption, ito aminin ko na never attended any ROTC nun college ako, naghanap ako ng contact at naglagay na lang ako....UST '94-'98

    useless eh wala naman akon planong mag sundalo.....

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    let's be realistic: when the country is attacked, do you really expect anyone to show up?

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    worst unit in college.sayang lang oras ko dyan.

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    Onga panget to, tapos ung mga mayayabang na mga leaders ng ROTC paglabas naman ng school takot sa mga fratboys. Hanggang field lang mayabang. Dami magkakasakit nyan lalo na yung mga mahina ung katawan.

    If hindi naman mandatory yan, I'm almost sure na bilang na bilang ang mag-join (say 5-10 students).

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    let's be realistic: when the country is attacked, do you really expect anyone to show up?
    I would.

    I'd gladly fight and die so that my family can live in freedom.

    It goes without saying that I wouldn't mind a return of mandatory ROTC, but it has to be a no-nonsense program that will really enable our youth to gain the minimum level of skills and discipline that they would need in the event of a draft or call to active duty. Moreover, it should include components that foster greater patriotism and civic involvement.

    For example, a friend of mine, who graduated from college a long time ago, is now an active member of the naval reserve. He undergoes continuous training, and participates in rescue and relief operations during times of calamities as a member of his reserve group.

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    Sad.

    With the general consensus here, for sure, Philippines will be on its knees in less than an hour when war comes.

    This also goes to show that ROTC really depends on the school.

    I think, there should be a standard procedure for this. Much better if training is not in schools but rather in Army camps.

    The problem with school enforced ROTC is, some ROTC commanders are not really from the Army, some are just gay pencil pushers who doesn't know anything.

    NSTP is not in anyway close to ROTC, back then being in CWS, community service, is really degrading because it's where gays and weaklings are assigned. I reckon NSTP must be close to it.

    It's sad that people discard what our forefathers died for in the past. It seems, almost everyone just doesn't care about the country anymore and yet keeps on complaining how the government is run when they themselves have nothing to offer.

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    di na dpat kc waste of tym lang.

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    I'm ok with requiring the ROTC... although it would be better if the parent/student would have the option to pick whether he likes community service or pseudo armed forces training.

    At least, if war does reach our shores, those who underwent the CMT / ROTC will have a basic knowledge of how a military unit operates. Heck, if our lolos survived the Death March and conducted guerialla warfare half a century ago - then I suppose a few hours of training is not so bad.

    CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post

    Heck, if our lolos survived the Death March and conducted guerialla warfare half a century ago - then I suppose a few hours of training is not so bad.
    i very much agree.

    iba na talaga ang mga Pilipino. konting hirap lang sa katawan eh reklamo na agad. minsan ndi pa na-try yung isang bagay, reklamo agad.

    ndi lang naman pang giyera ang ROTC. pang disiplina din. maaga ka gigising tapos maaga papasok etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    I'm ok with requiring the ROTC... although it would be better if the parent/student would have the option to pick whether he likes community service or pseudo armed forces training.

    At least, if war does reach our shores, those who underwent the CMT / ROTC will have a basic knowledge of how a military unit operates. Heck, if our lolos survived the Death March and conducted guerialla warfare half a century ago - then I suppose a few hours of training is not so bad.

    CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.
    Same sentiments.....

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    Iniwasan ko dati to 94-98 UST, light duty lang ako kumbaga. In theory maganda sana to para just in case may lumusob sa Pilipinas officer sana tayo kaso in reality wala ata tayo armas para ma armasan lahat just in case mag ka gera, so wala din.

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    Let’s face it gastos lang yan. Kung gusto talaga ng bata pumasok sa military, andyan ang PMA at PNPA. Kung gustong maging enlisted napakadali rin. Kung background ang kailangan dapat sa high school i-required yan. Dahil after high school kung talagang gustong mag PMA, Police, MNLF, MILF, NPA o Abu Sayyaf eh madali na.

    Ako nung college, nagbayad rin ako. P300 / MS lang noon. Dahil sa uniform, pamasahe, time at pagod eh sulit na rin bayaran. Yun nga lang corrupt officers ang mga nakinabang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon View Post
    Same sentiments.....
    ayan! listen to the man who actually went through the Bataan Death March

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    Quote Originally Posted by M54 Powered View Post
    ayan! listen to the man who actually went through the Bataan Death March
    Amf...hinde ah!!! :seeth:......









    Sa Battle of Tirad Pass :rofl01:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    ...CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.
    Totoo sir? Buti ka pa... I would've enjoyed ROTC kung mga ito ginawa namin.

    Isa lang ang training sa amin e. Pasang Masid! When war comes, the secret weapon of the AdMU ROTC will be Pasang Masid... walang laban mga kalaban dyan. Lalo na pag saludo namin sa kanila...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    Totoo sir? Buti ka pa... I would've enjoyed ROTC kung mga ito ginawa namin.

    Isa lang ang training sa amin e. Pasang Masid! When war comes, the secret weapon of the AdMU ROTC will be Pasang Masid... walang laban mga kalaban dyan. Lalo na pag saludo namin sa kanila...
    brad ang pag martsa martsa ay para sa disiplina. ganun talaga. at pag may gera na dun kailangan ang disiplina. kasama pala ang mga taga Ateneo sa mga ROTC cadets na pinadala sa Bataan. Malamang pina-martsa din sila bagu nun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post

    CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.
    Yup, masaya din CAT days namin. kapag summer training namin umaakyat kami ng bundok, sa Ternate Cavite, tapos nag wargames kami, pati night operations meron kami, nag paputok din kami ng .45, ang target namin naka pako sa puno ng balete ngiii... nag rarapel, pati tumulay sa rope na nakabitin di ko matandaan kung ano tawag dun hehe, tapos kapag naglalakad kami kung saan man kami papunta, ang orders kapag may pumutok, hit the dirt, yung isang kasama ko ibang dirt ang nasalpukan... cow dirt, ang saya!

    Pero nung college, pang lalaki lang ROTC nung time ko, buti na lang din kasi wala naman daw ginagawa kundi magbabad sa araw pati sa ulan.

ROTC balak i-require ulit