ROTC balak i-require ulit

[Jun aka Pekto]

Sad.

With the general consensus here, for sure, Philippines will be on its knees in less than an hour when war comes.

This also goes to show that ROTC really depends on the school.

I think, there should be a standard procedure for this. Much better if training is not in schools but rather in Army camps.

The problem with school enforced ROTC is, some ROTC commanders are not really from the Army, some are just gay pencil pushers who doesn't know anything.

I agree. ROTC should be taken away from schools. Let all the training be administered by a cadre of army/marine regulars and at military installations. Instead of being part of a school curriculum, ROTC will become a periodic obligation from 21 until say, 45 for both male and female.

As for lying idly around, we normally did when were in the school campus. But, whenever we went to Camp Aguinaldo and its huge parade ground, there's always someone in the ranks who suggested the officers march us around or at least let us march ourselves around with someone from the ranks moving up and calling cadence. And we were happy to march around because the morning went by really fast. The officers were more than happy to oblige us. But, if we were training at the school campus with that tiny parking lot, all we could do was stand in formation.

Plus I don't know how it is now. But, whenever I commuted home after CAT, I always got nods of approval from bus drivers and passengers......gave me that nice comfy feeling.

[Flagg]

...CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.

Totoo sir? Buti ka pa... I would've enjoyed ROTC kung mga ito ginawa namin.

Isa lang ang training sa amin e. Pasang Masid! When war comes, the secret weapon of the AdMU ROTC will be Pasang Masid... walang laban mga kalaban dyan. Lalo na pag saludo namin sa kanila...

[MAXBUWAYA]

For me, gawin nilang optional, which is the case right now. Yung mga gustong kumuha, kunin nila. Backdoor ito for entry into the officer corps ng AFP. Wag ipilit sa mga ayaw.

I had my ROTC in UPD (nung wala pang ROTC Dept. ang UP Manila and UP Manila. Never finished a single course, kahit MS 11. Ended up finishing all 4 courses (MS 11 to Ms 22) in Fort Bonifacio spread over 2 summers. Lintek, kahirap! MS 11 sa umaga, tapos MS 12 sa hapon. Next summer, MS 21 tapos MS 22 ulit. Bad trip nga, hindi man lang na-credit yung stint ko sa PMA.

Pwede ka nang SS Storm Trooper. hehehe

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Sa akin ok naman, Just make it Interesting!
Like lectures on explosive stuff and what kind of armory we have.



Pag model Platoon ok din. Good thing lumipat ako from Private 4th class to model platoon hehehehe



Try this website pala ok din

www.timawa.net

[6shooter]

sa mga nababasa ko dito naaawa ako sa mga kababaihan at mga anak nating pag sinakop tayo ng ibang bansa.

napakadali pala nating makalimot. eh di kung ganun pati na rin ang pambansang awit wag na alng natin kakantahin kahit sa sine. eh kung di naman tayo handa diba?

tsk tsk. kaya lumaganap din ang lagay na tinutukoy sa UST eh kasi ang mga estudyante din mismo ang nag bayad. kung di sila nag bayad at sinabi sa mga kurakot at pag-tiyagaan na lang nila ang kaunting sakripisyo na wala man lang sa kalingkingan na nadanas ng mga ROTC cadets na nagtanggol sa Bataan at Corregidor para sa kanilang kalayaan...ay...baka matauhan ang mga kurakot na sundalo.

i remember yung sabi kasi ng lolo ko na nag death march at naging POW at nakatakas at naging guerilla. Ginawa daw niya lahat na yun para sa amin na di pa pinapanganak nun. ROTC cadet lang siya nun.

[AnuVaYan]

CAT back then was a lot of fun really... got to learn how to rapel, navigate rope & obstacle courses, dismantle & assemble an M16, etc.

Yup, masaya din CAT days namin. kapag summer training namin umaakyat kami ng bundok, sa Ternate Cavite, tapos nag wargames kami, pati night operations meron kami, nag paputok din kami ng .45, ang target namin naka pako sa puno ng balete ngiii... nag rarapel, pati tumulay sa rope na nakabitin di ko matandaan kung ano tawag dun hehe, tapos kapag naglalakad kami kung saan man kami papunta, ang orders kapag may pumutok, hit the dirt, yung isang kasama ko ibang dirt ang nasalpukan... cow dirt, ang saya!

Pero nung college, pang lalaki lang ROTC nung time ko, buti na lang din kasi wala naman daw ginagawa kundi magbabad sa araw pati sa ulan.

[6shooter]

Totoo sir? Buti ka pa... I would've enjoyed ROTC kung mga ito ginawa namin.

Isa lang ang training sa amin e. Pasang Masid! When war comes, the secret weapon of the AdMU ROTC will be Pasang Masid... walang laban mga kalaban dyan. Lalo na pag saludo namin sa kanila...

brad ang pag martsa martsa ay para sa disiplina. ganun talaga. at pag may gera na dun kailangan ang disiplina. kasama pala ang mga taga Ateneo sa mga ROTC cadets na pinadala sa Bataan. Malamang pina-martsa din sila bagu nun.

[6shooter]

I agree. ROTC should be taken away from schools. Let all the training be administered by a cadre of army/marine regulars and at military installations. Instead of being part of a school curriculum, ROTC will become a periodic obligation from 21 until say, 45 for both male and female.

As for lying idly around, we normally did when were in the school campus. But, whenever we went to Camp Aguinaldo and its huge parade ground, there's always someone in the ranks who suggested the officers march us around or at least let us march ourselves around with someone from the ranks moving up and calling cadence. And we were happy to march around because the morning went by really fast. The officers were more than happy to oblige us. But, if we were training at the school campus with that tiny parking lot, all we could do was stand in formation.

Plus I don't know how it is now. But, whenever I commuted home after CAT, I always got nods of approval from bus drivers and passengers......gave me that nice comfy feeling.

You have a good attitude.

[mikey177]

sa mga nababasa ko dito naaawa ako sa mga kababaihan at mga anak nating pag sinakop tayo ng ibang bansa.

napakadali pala nating makalimot. eh di kung ganun pati na rin ang pambansang awit wag na alng natin kakantahin kahit sa sine. eh kung di naman tayo handa diba? ...

i remember yung sabi kasi ng lolo ko na nag death march at naging POW at nakatakas at naging guerilla. Ginawa daw niya lahat na yun para sa amin na di pa pinapanganak nun. ROTC cadet lang siya nun.

And herein lies a more deeply-rooted problem facing our country: many Filipinos have no sense of history or appreciation for our past.

I mean, I am pushing forty, so I come from an older generation, and even I have to confess that it was only during the last decade or so that I began poring through history books and other chronicles of our country's past. I began studying how life was for our forefathers during the Spanish era, during the Japanese occupation, and during our fledgling years as the first Republic in Asia. And I discovered that we have much to be proud of as a people, in spite of the many mistakes and failures we have also made.

That's why I find it saddening to know that now, many gradeschool children have no desire to learn about Filipino history. My own son admits that the subject he likes least in school is Hekasi, because of all the "useless facts" he is made to memorize

Thus, whenever I can, I try to let him know about the bravery and nobility that his countrymen showed in the darker chapters of our history. It helps that we live in the province, so we often pass by many historical sites in Tarlac and Pangasinan --notably those connected with the Death March, and those related to the early history of Pangasinan.

Anyway, sorry for the off-topic post. Just had to let some frustration out.

[fourtheboys96]

ok lang na i-require pero sana naman baguhin nila yun training nila at hindi lang limited sa formation at pagparada. sana isama nila guerilla warfare saka totoong tactical training. parang ang lumalabas kasi eh kung sakaling magkagiyera panapon na lahat ng mga yon since wala talagang natututunan kahit ano sa ROTC

Sa UPLB at least real guns ang pinapahawak. (wala lang firing pin yata) at least lahat ng kadete dun eh alam kung pano talaga humawak ng rifles.

LB boy ka pala. same here although ako nakahawak ng totoong baril nun. after attending 7 drill days (sat morning) pinatawag ako ng opis at dun daw pala ako sa intelligence unit :D mataas daw kasi grade ko sa mga subjects hehehe

[MAXBUWAYA]

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[MAXBUWAYA]

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www.timawa.net


Oh i forgot, Gimik muna before bayan.

hehehe

[OTEP]

I'm forced to buy a sandwich which you can barely see the content. Same thing with "unknown" juice drinks.

Teka, sa UST ka din ba nag ROTC? :lol:

If ROTC wants to make a comeback, it better shape up or else it migh just get shipped out again. Kung puro corruption pa din wala din kwenta. Maganda lang in theory (let's save the country, etc.) pero when you're actually there on the field counting the blades of grass and zapping ants with a magnifying glass to pass the time, it doesn't seem that much fun. Especially when your officers are just in their airconditioned office shouting through a PA.

At least UST ROTC had a Sunday mass. Of course some of my classmates came from different denominations so it was also a waste of time for them.

Nung 2nd year ko sa ROTC, LES na ko (law enforcement service). Nag-iba lang yung pangalan pero wala din nagbago. Wait, meron pala, sa LES sa aspalto na kami nakaupo imbis na sa damo. hehehe.

[jundogg]

kahit naman ibalik yan ganun padin. may true at crooked cadets. true kasi dedicated sa gawa nila, crooked dahil an daming nagpapaexempt na invalid. lugi lang ang mga true cadets. hay. bilog talaga mundo, may good at bad.

at ituturo lang ay panay martsa at pagtayo buong araw sa initan. sa gera, di naman tayo tatayo at mamarcha. malamang sa deathmarch ang paghahandang ginagawa sa cadets. what a shame...

kung mala-taliban at afghan training ang gagawin para talaga matutong magprotect ang cadet ng bansa. mas okay pa!

[oldblue]

during my college days, ROTC namin saturdays. bad trip pag may exam sa hapon wala na time mag-aral

anyway, first days ko sa ROTC ang hirap binabad kami sa araw pero naka white T-shirt and maong pa lang. 2 saturdays afters luto kami, ang init ng fatigue

sabi ko noon there has to be a way not to endure this, and so I joined the Marine officers training and nagsama ako ng 3 katropa para maka-survive.

very humilihiating ang freshman year ko sa DLSU, may umuwi sa'min inahitan ng kalahati sa bigote, patilya, one-side wall hahaha, pina-roll kami sa agno parking lot na puno ng grava at putik, pina-inom ng concoction ng leftover food sa college canteen, sabaw ng paksiw na panis, kulangot at ihi (the latter two I only found out when we were the officers na kasi nahuli ko umihi mga ka-batch ko sa papainom sa mga bago) at pinatakbo ng 100 times end to end sa four floors ng Miguel Bldg non-stop.

I had to endure this for one trimester. pero next three trimesters, officer na kami. officer na walang responsibility hehehe. since Marines kami at real-life Marino daw ang Commandant, we were allowed to roam the campus, stay in the cafe and shade, do bogus seminars in airconditioned rooms for three trimesters. isang term na hirap, tatlong term na ginhawa. may taga-sulat/pirma pa kami ng attendance kung late or absent hahaha

there were times that I looked forward ROTC pa nga eh bec. of our privileges. one of which is the Marine Camo-uniform and Hat with matching Rayban "Top Gun" shades.
some of my classmates who were regular midshipmen had to enlist under my supervision para lang ma-excuse sila sa init.

pero peyborit ko talaga banatan ang mga medics noon. kung sino pa yun matataba at malalaki katawan yun pa may excuse na may sakit daw sila with doctor's note kaya naging medic. I hate phonys

btw, dun sa mga hindi nag RO after 2k2. wala kayo stub (I still have mine). binigyan ako ng stub as reservist. pakita ko daw to sa AFP in time of war para malaman kung ano posisyon ko at san ako destino. kung wala kayo stub, baka front-liner kayo sa gyera, ako sana Major/Captain hehehe

[Bogeyman]

dapat optional na lang... ako nung freshmen MP... puro tambay lang kami. hahahaha

Naalala ko nung CAT namin, laging nag-aasaran yung mga AP (Air Police) tsaka medics. Karamihan kasi ng mga medics sa amin eh bading, tapos yung mga AP naman barako.

AP: Medics BADING!

Medics: Kami medics, KAYO WALA!!!

Asar-talo yung mga AP. :bwahaha:

[Jun aka Pekto]

You have a good attitude.

Well, I always appreciated that sense of belonging to a group even though I was a lone wolf by nature. CAT/CMT gave that sense of belonging. In HS, I had the benefit of being in the varsity soccer team. In college, I was having a hard enough time trying to maintain my grades. So, trying out for the college varsity soccer team and dedicating time to it was out of the question.

But college CAT/CMT was a requirement and I made the best of it. It didn't matter if I didn't like the officers or not. I gave them the respect they were due or at least the respect their rank deserved. It's not like they were chewing out or berating anyone. Not once did I see them go on a power trip and abuse their command. And if they weren't the sharpest officers around, oh well. They were students just like myself. I didn't expect them to be well-versed in military matters. That said, the officers in charge of us did a pretty good job.

[numbah5]

i'm taking up my ROTC course today as a medic (nursing stud kasi) in UST. to tell you guys, 500+ freshmen studs in UST are taking up ROTC today. to tell you also, we are more disciplined than other ROTC units. mga MP namin nakatayo nagbabantay at pinagsasabihan yung mga magugulo. but what's the sense of having ROTC? hindi naman kulang mga sundalo natin... we have more than enough soldiers and reservists.

[OTEP]

The idea of ROTC is good. It's the execution that seems flawed...

[pup2]

I heard the proponent is a very old congressman. I heard he thinks the college students are just malling around, undisciplined, and unpatriotic.

I wonder if he realizes that's what his forefathers thought of HIM -- even though he was taking ROTC at the time. (I read this in a historical war book -- of which I am a fan).

I think the consensus is either to scrap the idea or drastically reform it for it to make sense. Unfortunately, with our enlisted men practically in bare feet and eating sardines everyday, asa ka pa.

Reforming NSTP would have a better chance for success.

[CVT]

I think it's worth bringing it back for as long as the training will be conducted towards the achievement of its goals and objectives.

Was a Corps Cmmdr when I was in HS, and a member of our Corps' Special Unit when I was in College. I'd say I still benefit from the experience and discipline I gained from the training. And, I want our boys to undergo similar experiences for God and Country.

3505:kodak: