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    #41
    ...and now the cr*p is about to hit the fan!!!
    andami ng naghuhugas kamay. they (the recipients) say na what they got are 'ordinary' information na makukuha mo rin sa mga news coverage. maski na listahan lang ng utang yun o 'flames' o tic-tac-toe the fact na may tatak yun na classified or secret/top secret tapos may kopya ka...sa presinto kyo magpaliwanag !!!

    im very sorry for both aragoncillo and aquino, but they were caught 'playing' a dangerous game and they had it coming.
    Last edited by rayana; October 7th, 2005 at 11:56 AM.

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    #42
    Nakakahiya naman yan. Lumabas pa sa CNN, ABC, CBS etc.

    Baka naman ino-ogags tayo ng kano. Baka its an intentional leak gone wrong.

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    #43
    double-post...sorry.

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    #44
    "Your mission, Leandro, should you decide to accept it, is... As usual, should you be captured or killed, the senator will disavow any knowledge of your existence. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Leandro."

    :bwahaha:

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Belisarius
    The Bush adm. is to blame for its blatant support of the unpopular arroyo govt., its not good to meddle in other people's backyard specially if they are your friends. Aragoncillo should be rewarded for doing us a favor in letting us know where we stand in the Bush govt. if they spy on us , we can also spy on them, all is fair in love and war ( including spying ). Its time we chart our own destiny, and not depend on American Junk, as the Apo Hiking Song saids. Keep up the good work.
    This is a perfect example of why I think anti-government folks in the Philippines have some loose screws in their heads. They will do anything, believe and defend anything related to anti-government causes, without using a single drop of brain-related intelligence and common sense. I would like to admire an opposition person who can demonstrate rational thinking and sensible logic when batting for their cause. I could not find one. That's why they failed to bring down Arroyo. And it serves them right.

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by rayana
    ...and now the cr*p is about to hit the fan!!!
    andami ng naghuhugas kamay. they (the recipients) say na what they got are 'ordinary' information na makukuha mo rin sa mga news coverage.
    That's the WORST part of this "so-called" patriotic stupidity by Aragoncillo. The recipients of his "efforts" have told everyone that what he gave them are nothing but "shallow" information. Short of saying "worthless" intelligence materials. So in effect, he wasted his life and career on some worthless piece of crap.

    It also demonstrates that this Marine and FBI agent lacks "field training". Something that could have helped him from getting caught. What a loser.

    The greatest stupid act he committed: Trying to intervene with US Immigration officials when Michael Ray Aquino was detained for overstaying. If he really is a spy, he should have dumped Aquino as soon as the authorities caught him. Why leave footprints leading to your door in the scene of a crime, right? I think calling Aragoncillo a "spy" is a disgrace to all the active spies in the business today.

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    #47
    The guy got caught - that's his fault and he should be punished for it. Same should be true with all American spies caught elsewhere (Venezuela, etc...) but the U.S. govt likes to put up the pretense of righteous (sanctimonious) blah blah.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Karding
    Maybe if your so called country gave me and my family a decent life, we would have stayed.
    ...Brilliant!

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Karding
    And oh you bet kapatid, I love that LAND called Philippines. Sa katunayan nga jan ako mag-re-retire...hehehe.

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by creepy

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    #51
    this is not new, lahat ng bansa may kanya kanyang spy kahit nung sinauna pang panahon, mismo pinas dami foreign spy.... si james bond 007 nga lang ano b sya?? d b spy? sobra pa nga ang bilib ng mga pinoy s kanya...tapos eto ngayon pinoy n spy kasumpa sumpa n,bat ganun?? kung mapatunayan nagkasala sya eh di hatulan sya ng nararapat hinde kung ano ano at hinde un sambayanan ang mananagot dito... haayy naku!

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    #52
    horse trading lang yan mga kapatid...

    hirap mag-comment sa laro ng mga big boys where, all we got were "for public consumption" ...

    "read between the lines" na lang muna tayo, isa-isa kasi palabas, nagtataguan pa ng baraha...

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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by zeagle
    Nakakahiya naman yan. Lumabas pa sa CNN, ABC, CBS etc.

    Baka naman ino-ogags tayo ng kano. Baka its an intentional leak gone wrong.
    malamang nga na "intentional leak gone wrong" oops!

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by RedHorse
    horse trading lang yan mga kapatid...

    hirap mag-comment sa laro ng mga big boys where, all we got were "for public consumption" ...

    "read between the lines" na lang muna tayo, isa-isa kasi palabas, nagtataguan pa ng baraha...


    kaya ako hintayin ko na lang gawin movie ito

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    #55
    who are those who want to oust GMA?

    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22946

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    #56
    US Embassy denies hand in RP crisis

    First posted 00:43am (Mla time) Oct 10, 2005
    By Volt Contreras
    Inquirer News Service

    THE US EMBASSY in Manila has denied having a hand in the political turmoil in the Philippines and slammed as "distorted" news accounts of leaked secret files sent by American diplomats to Washington on opposition attempts to unseat President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

    In the first official response to recent events in Manila, Chargé d'Affaires Darryl Johnson said relations between the Philippines and the United States remained very strong.

    Johnson was asked on Friday in Cebu about allegations that Leandro Aragoncillo, a Philippine-born ex-Marine, stole documents damaging to Ms Arroyo while working for Vice President Dick Cheney in the first uncovered case of spying in the White House.

    "Well, of course we would be concerned about any story of this kind that has to do with the national security of the United States," Johnson said in the Cebu interview posted yesterday on the US Embassy website.

    Internal US issue

    "I think that this sort of thing is very unfortunate but it is a matter for the US legal system. It is an internal issue in the US and it is not something that will affect our foreign relations. We hope and expect that the relationship between the US and the Philippines will continue to thrive as it has in the past," he said.

    "Our relationship is very strong and it has been so for a long time. We have a very close relationship, and President Arroyo was in the US recently and received a very warm welcome."

    Johnson also brushed aside suspicions raised last week by Archbishop Ramon Arguelles of Lipa City, Batangas province, that an American hand was behind the country's political conflicts.

    "The US and the Philippines enjoy very strong relations, and unfounded allegations of this kind are certainly inappropriate and absolutely not correct," Johnson said.

    Johnson also pointed out that news reports in the Philippines had carried "distorted portions" of the stolen documents.

    He did not cite any media organization. The Inquirer ran a series of stories on 101 documents that were allegedly pilfered from secret files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation by Aragoncillo and former Philippine Senior Superintendent Michael Ray Aquino. They then sent the papers by e-mail to opposition forces reportedly plotting to oust Ms Arroyo. The two were arrested last month.

    The Inquirer reports centered on the observations and analysis of the Philippine situation, mostly by Johnson's predecessor, Joseph Mussomeli, who is now US ambassador to Cambodia.

    Shallow information

    Opposition Senator Panfilo Lacson, one of the recipients of the e-mails, has played down the value of the reports, dismissing them as "shallow information."

    One leaked paper that was widely used by the Philippine media concerned a US Embassy political officer's characterization of Vice President Noli de Castro as an unfit successor to Ms Arroyo in the event of a successful coup d'etat. De Castro has reacted sharply to this particular report.

    Asked to comment on the Mussomeli dossiers, Johnson replied, "these alleged reports are part of the case that has been brought against these two people and at this stage it would not be appropriate to comment on the distorted portions that have been reported in the Philippine press."

    Johnson replaced Mussomeli two months ago. According to the embassy, Johnson was to leave Manila this week and was handing over the post to Deputy Chief of Mission Paul Jones.

    Also yesterday, retired Navy Commodore Rex Robles said that by calling on the United States to break its silence on the espionage case, administration lawmakers were placing the Arroyo administration in deeper trouble.

    Most laughable

    "It's like getting a hammer to knock your head off. It's the most laughable thing I've heard," he said in a phone interview.

    "They're encouraging the US to come up with a more destabilizing information against Gloria," he said. "All this information shows that the US has given up on Gloria a long time ago."

    Representatives Antonio Cuenco (Cebu), Marcelino Libanan (Eastern Samar) and Monico Puentevella (Bacolod City) made the call over the weekend, saying that the indictment of Aquino and Aragoncillo should pave the way for the identification of "their masterminds."

    The masterminds, they said, should be arrested since the espionage case was part of a coup plot against Ms Arroyo.

    Robles, president of the security risk management consultancy RCR, said that the congressmen's call was a no-brainer because there's no Philippine law that penalizes a Filipino from buying information abroad.

    Senate Minority Leader Aquilino Pimentel Jr., who had admitted receiving a couple of personal e-mails from Aquino, shrugged off the congressmen's call.

    "I couldn't care a whit. That's much ado about nothing," he said. "Anyone who violated the law should be jailed. No one, including me, is above the law."

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    This is a perfect example of why I think anti-government folks in the Philippines have some loose screws in their heads. They will do anything, believe and defend anything related to anti-government causes, without using a single drop of brain-related intelligence and common sense. I would like to admire an opposition person who can demonstrate rational thinking and sensible logic when batting for their cause. I could not find one. That's why they failed to bring down Arroyo. And it serves them right.
    Konting hinahon sa pag post. Siguro naman ayaw mo din masabihan ng gnun di ba

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